I can't breathe!...

[Boatswain2PA]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

Wrong. I see it all the time in my emergency department with asthmatics, COPD'ers, and CHF'ers. They can be in respiratory distress, and dying, but still be able to talk a bit.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

"Worked" as a peddler? We must have different definitions of "Work"...

Yeah except thats not the point of the story tho.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Usually you don't find out someone is unarmed until after you arrest them.

Correct. But simply being armed, or being large, should not be cause for police to attacking you during an arrest.

When you are on parole you are to comply with the cops at all times or you can have your parole violated and be sent back to the slammer.

Garner was a career criminal who was on parole therefore any failure to cooperate with the cops was worthy of an arrest.

He's been a criminal his entire life so of course he knew that

 

[ClosedCaption]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

That's a tragedy. Why is it only the ones where criminal behavior on the part of the deceased is at the root of the situation are made nationwide protests?

Oh are we going on the black guy scale of things?

When no criminal record means that he was a criminal? Where up is down?

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

Wrong. I see it all the time in my emergency department with asthmatics, COPD'ers, and CHF'ers. They can be in respiratory distress, and dying, but still be able to talk a bit.

Being in respiratory distress does not necessarily mean they can't breathe it means they are having difficulty breathing.

Big difference that a person in the medical field should know .

 

[ClosedCaption]

Easy to say when its someone else. Entirely different thing when it is you, or a loved one, are gang tackled by a bunch of thugs with badges.

I wouldn't need to be gang tackled. That's the point. Cooperate and you won't get gang tackled.

Whether you "need to be" or not is not the discussion. Whether its right or not should be and when its one 400 pound dude and 5 cops he didnt "need to be" gang tackled either.

Well since its him and not you, I'm sure you feel differently

When a cop tells you to turn around and put your arms behind your back you are to obey. Then he will tell you that you're under arrest and read you your rights. What is the argument about these simple proceedings that all you and the other shit house lawyers don't understand?

The part where you claim he was under arrest but it was communicated through telepathy

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

"Worked" as a peddler? We must have different definitions of "Work"...

Yeah except thats not the point of the story tho.

It tells me all I need to know about the mindset of whoever wrote it...
Just like no one in the media mentions that fat boy Garner had been arrested 30 times over the years.

 

[R.D.]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

That's a tragedy. Why is it only the ones where criminal behavior on the part of the deceased is at the root of the situation are made nationwide protests?

Oh are we going on the black guy scale of things?

When no criminal record means that he was a criminal? Where up is down?

No, that's not what I'm asking.

The link you posted seems the victim was not in the process of any sort of criminal behavior...at first glance. But the two making headlines now, were in fact engaging in criminal behavior at the time of the altercations

It's clear that the protests are geared more at defending criminal behavior and it's consequences then actual police over reach.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

"Worked" as a peddler? We must have different definitions of "Work"...

Yeah except thats not the point of the story tho.

It tells me all I need to know about the mindset of whoever wrote it...
Just like no one in the media mentions that fat boy Garner had been arrested 30 times over the years.

The mindset is also not the point the incident that happened is.

This seems to be the regular out from discussing certain topics, especially race. Ignore the incident and reserve your anger for the people who have an opinion on the incident...in other words kill the messenger

 

[Boatswain2PA]

Usually you don't find out someone is unarmed until after you arrest them.

Correct. But simply being armed, or being large, should not be cause for police to attacking you during an arrest.

When you are on parole you are to comply with the cops at all times or you can have your parole violated and be sent back to the slammer.

Garner was a career criminal who was on parole therefore any failure to cooperate with the cops was worthy of an arrest.

He's been a criminal his entire life so of course he knew that

Being on parole does not mean cops can simply attack you. They should have verbalized commands before going active on this suspect.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

That's a tragedy. Why is it only the ones where criminal behavior on the part of the deceased is at the root of the situation are made nationwide protests?

Oh are we going on the black guy scale of things?

When no criminal record means that he was a criminal? Where up is down?

No, that's not what I'm asking.

The link you posted seems the victim was not in the process of any sort of criminal behavior...at first glance. But the two making headlines now, were in fact engaging in criminal behavior at the time of the altercations

It's clear that the protests are geared more at defending criminal behavior and it's consequences then actual police over reach.

I cant with you...you're just being stupid and translating what people say into bullshit. No one ever defended any criminal behavior....of course all you have to do is throw out another "seems like" strawman to avoid talking about what people are really saying.

Maybe you can find the most ignorant person on youtube to back up your argument against all blacks in general....Thats another fav

 

[Boatswain2PA]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

Wrong. I see it all the time in my emergency department with asthmatics, COPD'ers, and CHF'ers. They can be in respiratory distress, and dying, but still be able to talk a bit.

Being in respiratory distress does not necessarily mean they can't breathe it means they are having difficulty breathing.

Big difference that a person in the medical field should know .

Never had anyone tell me "I'm in respiratory distress". They DO say "I can't breathe"

 

[ClosedCaption]

Usually you don't find out someone is unarmed until after you arrest them.

Correct. But simply being armed, or being large, should not be cause for police to attacking you during an arrest.

When you are on parole you are to comply with the cops at all times or you can have your parole violated and be sent back to the slammer.

Garner was a career criminal who was on parole therefore any failure to cooperate with the cops was worthy of an arrest.

He's been a criminal his entire life so of course he knew that

Even when you're not on parole blacks need to learn that those so called "rights" are only to be exercised by certain people....namely anyone but blacks. America!

 

[ClosedCaption]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

Wrong. I see it all the time in my emergency department with asthmatics, COPD'ers, and CHF'ers. They can be in respiratory distress, and dying, but still be able to talk a bit.

Being in respiratory distress does not necessarily mean they can't breathe it means they are having difficulty breathing.

Big difference that a person in the medical field should know .

Never had anyone tell me "I'm in respiratory distress". They DO say "I can't breathe"

 

[ClosedCaption]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

Wrong. I see it all the time in my emergency department with asthmatics, COPD'ers, and CHF'ers. They can be in respiratory distress, and dying, but still be able to talk a bit.

Being in respiratory distress does not necessarily mean they can't breathe it means they are having difficulty breathing.

Big difference that a person in the medical field should know .

Never had anyone tell me "I'm in respiratory distress". They DO say "I can't breathe"

They are just faking dont cha know

 

[bodecea]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

My daughter has asthma....she says "I can't breathe" and I believe her.

 

[R.D.]

Unless you have a wallet

Officers in Bronx Fire 41 Shots And an Unarmed Man Is Killed - New York Times

An unarmed West African immigrant with no criminal record was killed early yesterday by four New York City police officers who fired 41 shots at him in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building, the police said.

It was unclear yesterday why the police officers had opened fire on the man at 12:44 A.M. in the vestibule of his building at 1157 Wheeler Avenue in the Soundview section. The man, Amadou Diallo, 22, who came to America more than two years ago from Guinea and worked as a street peddler in Manhattan, died at the scene, the police said.

That's a tragedy. Why is it only the ones where criminal behavior on the part of the deceased is at the root of the situation are made nationwide protests?

Oh are we going on the black guy scale of things?

When no criminal record means that he was a criminal? Where up is down?

No, that's not what I'm asking.

The link you posted seems the victim was not in the process of any sort of criminal behavior...at first glance. But the two making headlines now, were in fact engaging in criminal behavior at the time of the altercations

It's clear that the protests are geared more at defending criminal behavior and it's consequences then actual police over reach.

I cant with you...you're just being stupid and translating what people say into bullshit. No one ever defended any criminal behavior....of course all you have to do is throw out another "seems like" strawman to avoid talking about what people are really saying.

Maybe you can find the most ignorant person on youtube to back up your argument against all blacks in general....Thats another fav

No, you've become emotional and irrational on this subject. That's too bad.

People are really saying the lives of those two crimes are representative of something larger. They are, that crime doesn't pay, but it's their way of like the cops need to back off.

But if the protests were centered on actually innocent men (there are many) being targets and victims of the police misconduct it wouldn't be a phony race bait.

 

[Boatswain2PA]

If you can't breathe then you can't say "I can't breathe" 11 times.

Seriously try it. Have someone forcibly stop you from breathing and try to say "I can't breathe" 11 times

Wrong. I see it all the time in my emergency department with asthmatics, COPD'ers, and CHF'ers. They can be in respiratory distress, and dying, but still be able to talk a bit.

Being in respiratory distress does not necessarily mean they can't breathe it means they are having difficulty breathing.

Big difference that a person in the medical field should know .

Never had anyone tell me "I'm in respiratory distress". They DO say "I can't breathe"

They are just faking dont cha know

Not the ones who wind up dead.

 

[dannyboys]

Easy to say when its someone else. Entirely different thing when it is you, or a loved one, are gang tackled by a bunch of thugs with badges.

Don't break the law and your chances are slim to none that you will be gang tackled by a bunch of thugs with badges.

Slim, but not close enough to zero as it should be. He should have been verbally told of his arrest, and then talked into an arrest position. If he failed to follow those commands THEN the police should have gone active and forcefully arrested him.

Instead they just jumped him.

Did you watch the entire video fuck-witt?
The answer would be no.
The cops repeatedly asked Garner to comply with their commands. And YES they were commands!
They were dealing with a career criminal with over 30 convictions. They knew he had a probation violation warrant out for his arrest. So did he.
The walrus was 400 fucking pounds, 6'4".

 

[Boatswain2PA]

Usually you don't find out someone is unarmed until after you arrest them.

Correct. But simply being armed, or being large, should not be cause for police to attacking you during an arrest.

When you are on parole you are to comply with the cops at all times or you can have your parole violated and be sent back to the slammer.

Garner was a career criminal who was on parole therefore any failure to cooperate with the cops was worthy of an arrest.

He's been a criminal his entire life so of course he knew that

Even when you're not on parole blacks need to learn that those so called "rights" are only to be exercised by certain people....namely anyone but blacks. America!

Horseshit. All Americans should have the right to not be assaulted by the police.