Huntsman supports science

[Avatar4321]

Only 6% of scientists are welcome in the Republican party. And they have to pretend they aren't scientists.

Anyone who cares about freedom and the Constitution is welcome in the Republican Party. heck you dont even have to believe in that to join, just register.

 

[rdean]

Only 6% of scientists are welcome in the Republican party. And they have to pretend they aren't scientists.

Anyone who cares about freedom and the Constitution is welcome in the Republican Party. heck you dont even have to believe in that to join, just register.

You don't really believe that. After Republicans spent the last couple of years targeting gays, Hispanics, Blacks, women's rights, the poor, the unemployed and scientists? Everyone is welcome? Hilarious!

 

[Avatar4321]

Only 6% of scientists are welcome in the Republican party. And they have to pretend they aren't scientists.

Anyone who cares about freedom and the Constitution is welcome in the Republican Party. heck you dont even have to believe in that to join, just register.

You don't really believe that. After Republicans spent the last couple of years targeting gays, Hispanics, Blacks, women's rights, the poor, the unemployed and scientists? Everyone is welcome? Hilarious!

We don't target groups. We look at individuals.

 

[Kuros]

A simple greenhouse experiment you can try at home:

Line a large open bowl with dark cloth or paper.
Place the bowl in the sun and put an inverted paper cup in the bowl. Lay a thermometer across the top of the cup so that you are measuring the air temperature in the bowl.
Note the temperature.
Cover the bowl with a sheet of clear plastic wrap. Note the new temperature reading. The increase in air temperature is due to the trapped heat.

- - - - - - -

The greenhouse effect is a pretty straightforward theory and easily demonstrable.

 

[Photonic]

opinions arent science. Even if they are made by scientists.

Opinions made by those who actually do the research, know the material in and out, and live and breath the field they are commenting on...probably know it more than...say...you?

I know enough to realize when the temperature goes down it's not going up. I know enough to realize that if the planet is warming it won't cause an ice age. I know enough to realize that the temperature of the earth has gone up and down throughout all of earth's long history. I know enough to realize that when so called global warming scientists have to make up data that the data doesn't support what the politicians are trying to push on us.

You have no clue how much I know or don't know of the research I've actually studied. You just presume that since I call junk science for what it is, that I don't know anything about it.

Tell me something, why is it that the so called "solution" to global warming just happens to be the same policies the socialists couldnt convince the American people to enact for economic reasons? They can't convince people on the merits of the argument so they have to scare people into enacting their policies with a "crisis" that is always far off in the future.

Isn't it interesting that no matter whether the tempature goes up or goes down it's global warming? Global warming is going to warm the planet. No it's going to cause the next ice age. It causes hurricanes and earthquakes, except when it's not politically expedient for the left. Isn't that such an amazing coincidence?

You realize that according to those global warming "scientists" New York and many other Coastal cities were supposed to be underwater last year? Funny how that didnt happen and now it's completely ignored.

See, the problem with this so called "science" is that no matter how contrary the data is, it all seems to "prove" that it's happening for the left. And somehow questioning the inconsistancy of the facts is taboo. Since when is it anti-science to question the data? THAT IS SCIENCE! Science is all about questioning the data. Rejecting false theories. Yet, no matter how much we learn about the so called scientists making up data, no matter how many times the predictions are wrong, no matter how much data completely contradicts the theories, we are told we are crazy for questioning, that the debate is settled, and we need to give more control of our lives to an ever expanding government.

Well guess what. People are going to keep questioning. We aren't going to blindly follow you. When your data is inconsistant, when you have to out and out lie to support your position, we are going to question you even if you falsely claim it's all science.

Science doesn't stop questioning. And those who claim we shouldn't question or that anyone who does is crazy aren't being honest. If you have the truth on your side you aren't afraid of other opinions because the truth shines brighter and clearer than the lies. It's only the people who are afraid of the truth that need to shut down debate and pretend that it's over when it's never actually occured.

No, you should certainly be skeptical of any claim you haven't looked into, but your opinion will hold no weight until you do actual research. Common sense is a part of it, but it is very clear to me (As someone who has done the research and IS a scientist) that you have not yet actually looked into the facts. Simply claiming that "It isn't a science" isn't going to make it not.

In my opinion it's just as bad to twist what science says (What the left does) as to say it is straight out wrong because they refuse to look into it (The right).

Btw, I happen to disagree with the hypothesis that humans are the largest cause, the history of our planet is loaded with geological proof that this has happened in the past naturally. But that doesn't mean it isn't a science just because I disagree with the majority opinion. I believe humans have contributed significantly but not on the level claimed (Nearly 90%).

 

[auditor0007]

Global warming isn't science.

Actually it is. The question is how much are we responsible for it, and that is debatable. But to say that Earth is not warming is just ignoring the facts.

 

[bripat9643]

Global warming isn't science.

Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry, real scientists disagree with you.

Appeal to authority - a logical fallacy.

 

[bripat9643]

Put a fork in him. He is done in the GOP.

Sadly you're right.

What's sad about it? Aren't you a Dim?

 

[bripat9643]

Well, this thread certainly proves to me just how really dumb teabaggers are about science. Holy shit...

How beautifully ironic!

 

[bripat9643]

opinions arent science. Even if they are made by scientists.

Opinions made by those who actually do the research, know the material in and out, and live and breath the field they are commenting on...probably know it more than...say...you?

You forgot to include the fact that they are sucking on the government tit and their opinions are bought and paid for.

 

[Photonic]

Global warming isn't science.

Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry, real scientists disagree with you.

Appeal to authority - a logical fallacy.

How about, instead of jumping into the conversation halfway through with an argument that holds absolutely no water, you take the time to understand that I was using it as a supporting source of information (citing a source is not an appeal to authority, sorry).

Would you like to attempt that again?

 

[bripat9643]

opinions arent science. Even if they are made by scientists.

Agreed that "opinions aren't science". NASA scientists back up their assertions with data. What are you basing your opinions upon? Are you saying the world isn't warming? That the ice caps aren't melting?


Climate Change: Key Indicators

MY NASA DATA GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE

Their data is "homogenized," which is a euphemism meaning it's doctored to produce the desired result.

 

[Photonic]

opinions arent science. Even if they are made by scientists.

Opinions made by those who actually do the research, know the material in and out, and live and breath the field they are commenting on...probably know it more than...say...you?

You forgot to include the fact that they are sucking on the government tit and their opinions are bought and paid for.

How about backing up that audacious claim with some evidence?

 

[bripat9643]

Only 6% of scientists are welcome in the Republican party. And they have to pretend they aren't scientists.

Anyone who cares about freedom and the Constitution is welcome in the Republican Party. heck you dont even have to believe in that to join, just register.

You don't really believe that. After Republicans spent the last couple of years targeting gays, Hispanics, Blacks, women's rights, the poor, the unemployed and scientists? Everyone is welcome? Hilarious!

Republicans did no such thing. One would have to assume you been living in a parallel universe based on the idiocies you post in this forum.

 

[bripat9643]

A simple greenhouse experiment you can try at home:

Line a large open bowl with dark cloth or paper.
Place the bowl in the sun and put an inverted paper cup in the bowl. Lay a thermometer across the top of the cup so that you are measuring the air temperature in the bowl.
Note the temperature.
Cover the bowl with a sheet of clear plastic wrap. Note the new temperature reading. The increase in air temperature is due to the trapped heat.

- - - - - - -

The greenhouse effect is a pretty straightforward theory and easily demonstrable.

If CO2 was the equivalent of cellophane, you might have a point. I've checked and it doesn't resemble anything like cellophane.

 

[konradv]

Global warming isn't science.

Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry, real scientists disagree with you.

Appeal to authority - a logical fallacy.

Not really. That was more like providing research material to someone making a dogmatic, unsupported claim.

 

[The Rabbi]

Opinions made by those who actually do the research, know the material in and out, and live and breath the field they are commenting on...probably know it more than...say...you?

An opinion is not a scientific fact.

An opinion is also not religous dogma, like when conservatives try to blame every natural disater an act of god!

Except in the case of anthropogenic global warming where you cannot convince anyone who believes in it otherwise. Likewise with the supposed link between vaccines and autism. The Left is far mroe dogmatic than the Right.

 

[Gadawg73]

Huntsman was done before any debate...he always was an "also ran".
It depends on which scientist you want to listen to with global warming. It's all political at this point....just follow the money.

So any scientist that makes a dollar doing his research is biased because he is getting paid.
All of the scientific research at the cancer research labs where doctors make 450K a year is bogus.
All of the scientific research that has led us from rotary phones to cell technology where I can run one of my businesses from my phone was bogus science because the scientists were paid massive amounts of money.
The getting paid for their scieitific research argument is old, dated and worn out.
Debunked 20 years ago.
I fish and hunt all over. The old salt guides I use in Florida could care less about politics. They will tell you the water has warmed, runoff, improper building and land management and pollution has caused the water to warm in the river there.
Now I will wait for the "man does not cause pollution" argument.
Go put your hand behind the exhaust of your car and tell us if it is hot or cold. Multiply that times a billion.

 

[skookerasbil]

Put a fork in him. He is done in the GOP.

God I thought the same thing...........might as well have just stepped up in front of the lectern and lit himself on fire right there. Perry sucked on his response.......had a chance to publically humiliate those who embrace phoney science. At that moment, I was wishing I was answering the question for Perry............in fact......nobody on the stage that night framed it well. Lost opportunity to highlight the fraud of green energy. NOt one of those idiots even said that Spain lost 2 jobs for every 1 green job created. WTF??!!!!

 

[Gadawg73]

A simple greenhouse experiment you can try at home:

Line a large open bowl with dark cloth or paper.
Place the bowl in the sun and put an inverted paper cup in the bowl. Lay a thermometer across the top of the cup so that you are measuring the air temperature in the bowl.
Note the temperature.
Cover the bowl with a sheet of clear plastic wrap. Note the new temperature reading. The increase in air temperature is due to the trapped heat.

- - - - - - -

The greenhouse effect is a pretty straightforward theory and easily demonstrable.

If CO2 was the equivalent of cellophane, you might have a point. I've checked and it doesn't resemble anything like cellophane.

My cousin a life long strong conservative Republican was a Naval officer for 20 years. He was a submariner. He spoke of the first time they were in the ice near the shelfs in the north sea. He stated that the naval scientists were there to study the ice shelfs. Bud said that the soot was all over the snow on the ice and the land. Soot is black and holds onto heat. White deflects heat.
Do the math. Even the US military supports the thesis that the earth is warming and man has caused part of it.
Soot is from man. No doubt we do not know how much man's pollution has contributed but fact is we have.
No offense but it makes us Republicans look terribly stupid to deny basic scientific fact. Same with evolution. Republicans are being very ignorant there also.