Hundreds Protest Fatal Police Shooting in Washington

Um...legislation is the law dipshit. Legislators make laws. Courts rule on laws.

The SCOTUS ruled on alleged assaults by police officers, Graham v. Connor, Terry v. Ohio, Tennessee v. Garner.

Legislation becomes law. Courts interpret law.

Im charging you tuition next time.

You seriously misunderstood what I said and continue to, even though I have tried nicely to bring that to your attention.

Do you believe it was justified to kill Montes?

Yes. He was throwing big rocks at a cop. Which can fracture skulls OR knock someone out. They knew this guy...because they have prior incidents...of him throwing big rocks AND trying to take cops guns.

So this guy has a history of this shit. Hes gone for their guns in past incidents (see the WHOLE story on PoliceOne.com) They tried a taser...and it didnt work.

During the chase he suddenly turned and quickly raised hands...after having thrown rocks at them. So...they fired to stop a threat.

Taking all the details of the situation in...yes they were justified under Graham vs Connor.

This is such a stupid statement I'm surprised the keys on the keyboard consented to be touched.

When the man turned and raised his hands there was no threat.
Rocks can not be thrown from raised hands, they must be thrown from a cocked arm.
The officers will have to provide proof that rocks were thrown at them during the chase or at the conclusion of the chase, they can not.
The officers must be able to provide a reasonable, justifiable reason for the use of deadly force.

If they use your silly assed rationale, they may as well ask the Judge for mercy at their sentencing.

You cant throw a rock from a raised arm? Hmmm. You ever watch football or baseball?

You're just wrong. By law they cant be judged on hindsight. ONLY on what they percieved at the split second. And if hes been throwing rocks...and suddenly turns and raises an arm...in a split 1/10 second you'll think hes about to throw another rock. So did they. And they shot.

These cops are not guilty.

And if they charge them to appease cop hating liberals...these cops will.win millions in a lawsuit.

Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.
 
You seriously misunderstood what I said and continue to, even though I have tried nicely to bring that to your attention.

Do you believe it was justified to kill Montes?

Yes. He was throwing big rocks at a cop. Which can fracture skulls OR knock someone out. They knew this guy...because they have prior incidents...of him throwing big rocks AND trying to take cops guns.

So this guy has a history of this shit. Hes gone for their guns in past incidents (see the WHOLE story on PoliceOne.com) They tried a taser...and it didnt work.

During the chase he suddenly turned and quickly raised hands...after having thrown rocks at them. So...they fired to stop a threat.

Taking all the details of the situation in...yes they were justified under Graham vs Connor.

This is such a stupid statement I'm surprised the keys on the keyboard consented to be touched.

When the man turned and raised his hands there was no threat.
Rocks can not be thrown from raised hands, they must be thrown from a cocked arm.
The officers will have to provide proof that rocks were thrown at them during the chase or at the conclusion of the chase, they can not.
The officers must be able to provide a reasonable, justifiable reason for the use of deadly force.

If they use your silly assed rationale, they may as well ask the Judge for mercy at their sentencing.

You cant throw a rock from a raised arm? Hmmm. You ever watch football or baseball?

You're just wrong. By law they cant be judged on hindsight. ONLY on what they percieved at the split second. And if hes been throwing rocks...and suddenly turns and raises an arm...in a split 1/10 second you'll think hes about to throw another rock. So did they. And they shot.

These cops are not guilty.

And if they charge them to appease cop hating liberals...these cops will.win millions in a lawsuit.

Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.


I see you refuse to use common sense...or is it really within your control???

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As anyone with half a brain can see, the arm is cocked. So much for your shot put nonsense.

A punch thrown from the check is still thrown from a cocked arm...are you really this silly???

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Raised arms, I bet they can throw a hell of a punch or throw the shot out from this arm position...lol.
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Yes. He was throwing big rocks at a cop. Which can fracture skulls OR knock someone out. They knew this guy...because they have prior incidents...of him throwing big rocks AND trying to take cops guns.

So this guy has a history of this shit. Hes gone for their guns in past incidents (see the WHOLE story on PoliceOne.com) They tried a taser...and it didnt work.

During the chase he suddenly turned and quickly raised hands...after having thrown rocks at them. So...they fired to stop a threat.

Taking all the details of the situation in...yes they were justified under Graham vs Connor.

This is such a stupid statement I'm surprised the keys on the keyboard consented to be touched.

When the man turned and raised his hands there was no threat.
Rocks can not be thrown from raised hands, they must be thrown from a cocked arm.
The officers will have to provide proof that rocks were thrown at them during the chase or at the conclusion of the chase, they can not.
The officers must be able to provide a reasonable, justifiable reason for the use of deadly force.

If they use your silly assed rationale, they may as well ask the Judge for mercy at their sentencing.

You cant throw a rock from a raised arm? Hmmm. You ever watch football or baseball?

You're just wrong. By law they cant be judged on hindsight. ONLY on what they percieved at the split second. And if hes been throwing rocks...and suddenly turns and raises an arm...in a split 1/10 second you'll think hes about to throw another rock. So did they. And they shot.

These cops are not guilty.

And if they charge them to appease cop hating liberals...these cops will.win millions in a lawsuit.

Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.


I see you refuse to use common sense...or is it really within your control???

bp38o4hcmaarhui.jpg


shot-put.jpg


24631e12-eaae-4a41-8207-cbc0ac4e1170.jpg


As anyone with half a brain can see, the arm is cocked. So much for your shot put nonsense.

A punch thrown from the check is still thrown from a cocked arm...are you really this silly???

gsp-ufc-1-empowerednutrition.jpg


hi-res-50d56b832ef3cde4f90d977c99726f7c_crop_north.jpg


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Raised arms, I bet they can throw a hell of a punch or throw the shot out from this arm position...lol.
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg

Ah so you wanna get technical huh. Ok. Quarterbacks and baseball pitchers have extended arms overhead when they throw.

Are you this dumb? You can throw a rock...from various arm positions. Wow.
 
This is such a stupid statement I'm surprised the keys on the keyboard consented to be touched.

When the man turned and raised his hands there was no threat.
Rocks can not be thrown from raised hands, they must be thrown from a cocked arm.
The officers will have to provide proof that rocks were thrown at them during the chase or at the conclusion of the chase, they can not.
The officers must be able to provide a reasonable, justifiable reason for the use of deadly force.

If they use your silly assed rationale, they may as well ask the Judge for mercy at their sentencing.

You cant throw a rock from a raised arm? Hmmm. You ever watch football or baseball?

You're just wrong. By law they cant be judged on hindsight. ONLY on what they percieved at the split second. And if hes been throwing rocks...and suddenly turns and raises an arm...in a split 1/10 second you'll think hes about to throw another rock. So did they. And they shot.

These cops are not guilty.

And if they charge them to appease cop hating liberals...these cops will.win millions in a lawsuit.

Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.


I see you refuse to use common sense...or is it really within your control???

bp38o4hcmaarhui.jpg


shot-put.jpg


24631e12-eaae-4a41-8207-cbc0ac4e1170.jpg


As anyone with half a brain can see, the arm is cocked. So much for your shot put nonsense.

A punch thrown from the check is still thrown from a cocked arm...are you really this silly???

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Raised arms, I bet they can throw a hell of a punch or throw the shot out from this arm position...lol.
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg
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Ah so you wanna get technical huh. Ok. Quarterbacks and baseball pitchers have extended arms overhead when they throw.

Are you this dumb? You can throw a rock...from various arm positions. Wow.

Let's make you look stupid, part two.

Baseball:

http://www.physio-pedia.com/images/8/83/Phases_of_throwing.JPG
Phases_of_throwing.JPG


Arm MUST BE COCKED prior to a pitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Football:
Arm is COCKED PRIOR TO THE THROW!!!!!!!
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Now back to your original stupid statement that the perpetrator could throw a rock from his arms being raised directly above his head,
that would be bio=mechanically impossible without the cocking of his arm or wrist.

Now stop making an ass of yourself, there is no rational rebuttal...
 
You cant throw a rock from a raised arm? Hmmm. You ever watch football or baseball?

You're just wrong. By law they cant be judged on hindsight. ONLY on what they percieved at the split second. And if hes been throwing rocks...and suddenly turns and raises an arm...in a split 1/10 second you'll think hes about to throw another rock. So did they. And they shot.

These cops are not guilty.

And if they charge them to appease cop hating liberals...these cops will.win millions in a lawsuit.

Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.


I see you refuse to use common sense...or is it really within your control???

bp38o4hcmaarhui.jpg


shot-put.jpg


24631e12-eaae-4a41-8207-cbc0ac4e1170.jpg


As anyone with half a brain can see, the arm is cocked. So much for your shot put nonsense.

A punch thrown from the check is still thrown from a cocked arm...are you really this silly???

gsp-ufc-1-empowerednutrition.jpg


hi-res-50d56b832ef3cde4f90d977c99726f7c_crop_north.jpg


ufc-behind-the-scenes-005.jpg





Raised arms, I bet they can throw a hell of a punch or throw the shot out from this arm position...lol.
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg

Ah so you wanna get technical huh. Ok. Quarterbacks and baseball pitchers have extended arms overhead when they throw.

Are you this dumb? You can throw a rock...from various arm positions. Wow.

Let's make you look stupid, part two.

Baseball:

http://www.physio-pedia.com/images/8/83/Phases_of_throwing.JPG
Phases_of_throwing.JPG


Arm MUST BE COCKED prior to a pitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Football:
Arm is COCKED PRIOR TO THE THROW!!!!!!!
12_slack1.jpg


14_slack.jpg
14_slack.jpg


15_slack.jpg
15_slack.jpg



Now back to your original stupid statement that the perpetrator could throw a rock from his arms being raised directly above his head,
that would be bio=mechanically impossible without the cocking of his arm or wrist.

Now stop making an ass of yourself, there is no rational rebuttal...

Yep. You are that dumb.

Hold a rock. Raise it above your head. You are saying its "biomechanically impossible" to then throw that rock? Your argument is so retarded. Its like saying its ok to point a gun at someone...so long as they realize his finger isnt on the trigger!!
 
Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.


I see you refuse to use common sense...or is it really within your control???

bp38o4hcmaarhui.jpg


shot-put.jpg


24631e12-eaae-4a41-8207-cbc0ac4e1170.jpg


As anyone with half a brain can see, the arm is cocked. So much for your shot put nonsense.

A punch thrown from the check is still thrown from a cocked arm...are you really this silly???

gsp-ufc-1-empowerednutrition.jpg


hi-res-50d56b832ef3cde4f90d977c99726f7c_crop_north.jpg


ufc-behind-the-scenes-005.jpg





Raised arms, I bet they can throw a hell of a punch or throw the shot out from this arm position...lol.
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg

Ah so you wanna get technical huh. Ok. Quarterbacks and baseball pitchers have extended arms overhead when they throw.

Are you this dumb? You can throw a rock...from various arm positions. Wow.

Let's make you look stupid, part two.

Baseball:

http://www.physio-pedia.com/images/8/83/Phases_of_throwing.JPG
Phases_of_throwing.JPG


Arm MUST BE COCKED prior to a pitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Football:
Arm is COCKED PRIOR TO THE THROW!!!!!!!
12_slack1.jpg


14_slack.jpg
14_slack.jpg


15_slack.jpg
15_slack.jpg



Now back to your original stupid statement that the perpetrator could throw a rock from his arms being raised directly above his head,
that would be bio=mechanically impossible without the cocking of his arm or wrist.

Now stop making an ass of yourself, there is no rational rebuttal...

Yep. You are that dumb.

Hold a rock. Raise it above your head. You are saying its "biomechanically impossible" to then throw that rock? Your argument is so retarded. Its like saying its ok to point a gun at someone...so long as they realize his finger isnt on the trigger!!

Yeah I understand how butthurt you are, it isn't easy being made the fool.
Keep trying to save face kid, your last response doesn't cut it.

Or are you really stupid enough to try to discredit the numerous photos, diagrams and sites provided...lol!!!

I told you to stop making an ass of yourself...guess you just couldn't resist.
 
Duhh...no you can't throw a rock from a raised arm, there would be no acceleration of the projectile. The arm has to be cocked in order to launch any object, that's simply common sense.

Yes they will be judged based on their split second decision to shot a man with his arms in an upraised position.

Now, you can continue to play capt.police make no mistakes, that's fine, just stop trying to convince sane people that this was a justified shooting.


Hmmm. Wrong again. Shot put competitors in track and field throw 12 pound chunks of iron 50 feet without cocking their arm.

UFC fighters knock each other out with punches thrown from the cheek. No cocked arm.

You can throw a rock quite hard from an arm extended overhead.


I see you refuse to use common sense...or is it really within your control???

bp38o4hcmaarhui.jpg


shot-put.jpg


24631e12-eaae-4a41-8207-cbc0ac4e1170.jpg


As anyone with half a brain can see, the arm is cocked. So much for your shot put nonsense.

A punch thrown from the check is still thrown from a cocked arm...are you really this silly???

gsp-ufc-1-empowerednutrition.jpg


hi-res-50d56b832ef3cde4f90d977c99726f7c_crop_north.jpg


ufc-behind-the-scenes-005.jpg





Raised arms, I bet they can throw a hell of a punch or throw the shot out from this arm position...lol.
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg
cutcaster-photo-801155646-family-group-arms-raised-singing.jpg

Ah so you wanna get technical huh. Ok. Quarterbacks and baseball pitchers have extended arms overhead when they throw.

Are you this dumb? You can throw a rock...from various arm positions. Wow.

Let's make you look stupid, part two.

Baseball:

http://www.physio-pedia.com/images/8/83/Phases_of_throwing.JPG
Phases_of_throwing.JPG


Arm MUST BE COCKED prior to a pitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Football:
Arm is COCKED PRIOR TO THE THROW!!!!!!!
12_slack1.jpg


14_slack.jpg
14_slack.jpg


15_slack.jpg
15_slack.jpg



Now back to your original stupid statement that the perpetrator could throw a rock from his arms being raised directly above his head,
that would be bio=mechanically impossible without the cocking of his arm or wrist.

Now stop making an ass of yourself, there is no rational rebuttal...

Yep. You are that dumb.

Hold a rock. Raise it above your head. You are saying its "biomechanically impossible" to then throw that rock? Your argument is so retarded. Its like saying its ok to point a gun at someone...so long as they realize his finger isnt on the trigger!!

If the arm is up and still, you can lob something but not fire it with any velocity unless you cock it. But that was not what was happening. Montes was obviously trying to surrender when they gunned him down, and he turned around slowly because out of the corner of his eye he saw the police were poised to finish him off.
 
Somebody please come and try to save this fool!!!!...lol.

Yeah...see the thing is...they arent about to jump in on your side and argue...that its biomechanically impossible as you say to raise a rock over the shoulder...and throw it.

Maybe you arent athletic enough to...well...throw a rock. But everyone else is.
 
how lovely

and the rest of the people in the country is yawing at them

we are so OVER their bs
 
how lovely

and the rest of the people in the country is yawing at them

we are so OVER their bs

Yep. Most of the country realizes that if you resist arrest...you're playing with fire. And most of us are law abiding citizens without much sympathy for criminals. ..especially ones who resist arrest.
 
I'm supposed to get worked up over some guy who was throwing rocks at cops and others ?

Probably here illegally too.

Not to mention he has a prior record...of throwing rocks at cops AND of trying to go for their guns when hes been arrested before.

Yes...they want you to be mad...that he ended up getting himself shot. Crazy huh?
 
After watching the video, I think what get's him killed is his very abrupt turn to face the cops.
He does so, so fast that I can see why the cops would think that maybe he's got a weapon and is going to use it.
Watch the video.
 
Somebody please come and try to save this fool!!!!...lol.

Yeah...see the thing is...they arent about to jump in on your side and argue...that its biomechanically impossible as you say to raise a rock over the shoulder...and throw it.

Maybe you arent athletic enough to...well...throw a rock. But everyone else is.
Well as typical for you, you have presented no facts or evidence to support you stupid notion of performing an impossible bio-mechanical throw without the cocking of the arm.
There's the entire internet and not a single source, site or scientific rebuttal from you.

Further, you failed to rebut the photographs that plainly support my statement and the scientific facts involving the bio mechanics of throwing an object.

If nobody came to save you, did it ever cross your mind that they say how mind numbingly stupid your assertion was and the indisputable evidence I presented???

Never crossed your mind did it???...
 
Can't wait for government comments on these cases. It's been half-year silence...
 
Somebody please come and try to save this fool!!!!...lol.

Yeah...see the thing is...they arent about to jump in on your side and argue...that its biomechanically impossible as you say to raise a rock over the shoulder...and throw it.

Maybe you arent athletic enough to...well...throw a rock. But everyone else is.
Well as typical for you, you have presented no facts or evidence to support you stupid notion of performing an impossible bio-mechanical throw without the cocking of the arm.
There's the entire internet and not a single source, site or scientific rebuttal from you.

Further, you failed to rebut the photographs that plainly support my statement and the scientific facts involving the bio mechanics of throwing an object.

If nobody came to save you, did it ever cross your mind that they say how mind numbingly stupid your assertion was and the indisputable evidence I presented???

Never crossed your mind did it???...

Well...no one has taken either side.


Lets ask....

Anyone reading this- if you picked up a rock, raised it up over your head....could you throw it? Or would it become "biomechanically impossible" to throw the rock in your hand that is raises over your head?
 
Somebody please come and try to save this fool!!!!...lol.

Yeah...see the thing is...they arent about to jump in on your side and argue...that its biomechanically impossible as you say to raise a rock over the shoulder...and throw it.

Maybe you arent athletic enough to...well...throw a rock. But everyone else is.
Well as typical for you, you have presented no facts or evidence to support you stupid notion of performing an impossible bio-mechanical throw without the cocking of the arm.
There's the entire internet and not a single source, site or scientific rebuttal from you.

Further, you failed to rebut the photographs that plainly support my statement and the scientific facts involving the bio mechanics of throwing an object.

If nobody came to save you, did it ever cross your mind that they say how mind numbingly stupid your assertion was and the indisputable evidence I presented???

Never crossed your mind did it???...

Well...no one has taken either side.


Lets ask....

Anyone reading this- if you picked up a rock, raised it up over your head....could you throw it? Or would it become "biomechanically impossible" to throw the rock in your hand that is raises over your head?

Ok, let's say Montes has a small rock in his hand, because we see he has his hands up without any effort it would take to hold a bigger rock than that. Then as you say he can whip his rock hand down to cock his arm and throw it, without aiming because he is not looking carefully, what threat is that to three cops staring him down weapons drawn all of them at point blank range?
 
After watching the video, I think what get's him killed is his very abrupt turn to face the cops.
He does so, so fast that I can see why the cops would think that maybe he's got a weapon and is going to use it.
Watch the video.

How would he use this phantom weapon when he has his hands up?
 

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