Hugo Chavez endorses John Edwards

[hjmick]

You'd either have to be several bricks short of a load to even remotely believe that Edwards is a communist, or be utterly clueless to what communism is.

Having said that, Edwards hasn't got a chance. Too much class antagonism, and too far to the Left.

Yeah, I know, I was just trying to stimulate discussion. I have no doubt that Edwards is neither a socialist nor a communist. I question not his politics, but his decision to accept Glover's endorsement. When even Alan Colmes condemns Danny Glover because of his support of Chavez, then proceeds to question the endorsement and its effect on Edwards campaign, you know there could be a problem.

(Disclaimer: I don't normally watch H&C, I can't stand Hannity and Colmes gets on my nerves, somehow the channel didn't get changed after Shepard Smith. Between reading and cooking dinner, neither my wife nor I bothered to change the channel.Boy, that O'Reilly is annoying too.)

 

[Bern80]

Perhaps if you're in the John Birch Society, everything "Left" seems communist.

He's too far left to be elected President of the United States.

That does not make him a Communist.

I cannot believe I have to explain this.

You lefties really need to quit assuming what people's views are.

No everything to the left of center is not communism. Nor did I say he was one. I argued your claim that he is far from being a communist I used your words. You you said he's too far left yet far from being a communist. In terms of degree the only thing seperating liberalism and commuinism is socialism. Since Edwards is liberal at the very least it is inaccurate to say that he is far from being communist. On the political spectrum he's pretty damn close.

 

[red states rule]

John Edwards has either gone off the deep end, or he thinks that no one is paying attention. What in the world does he expect to gain by connecting with a extreme leftist nut like Danny Glover? Glover actually made me root for the Predator in Predator II. If by some miracle Edwards wins the Demo nomination, he will have moved so far left that he will have zero chance in the general election. Before he went to the left of looney left, I thought Edwards would probably be the toughest of the Demos for the Republicans to beat in 11/08. But now if I was a Republican candidate, I would be praying Edwards wins the nomination. Left of Left. The Edwards campaign slogan.

No, it is his arrorgance

 

[Toro]

You lefties really need to quit assuming what people's views are.

No everything to the left of center is not communism. Nor did I say he was one. I argued your claim that he is far from being a communist I used your words. You you said he's too far left yet far from being a communist. In terms of degree the only thing seperating liberalism and commuinism is socialism. Since Edwards is liberal at the very least it is inaccurate to say that he is far from being communist. On the political spectrum he's pretty damn close.

No, he is not pretty damn close. He is not close. Not even remotely.

Communism is a socio-economic system in which the government controls the means of production, does not allow for the ownership of property at least on a large scale, and does not allow the price system to clear as it sets prices for various goods and services. To say that Edwards isn't far from being a communist because he wants to increase taxes and increase social spending belies a distorted view of both communism and the mixed economic structure the world operates in today.

Edwards, or a guy like him, could get elected, or has gotten elected in every single industrialized nation on the planet. He cannot in the United States because the political center of the United States sits on the right of the global political scale.

And, as a guy who grew up on a steady diet of Ayn Rand and who supported every Republican Presidential candidate except this one, it is interesting to be labeled a Leftie, which merely reinforces the quote in my sig.

 

[red states rule]

No, he is not pretty damn close. He is not close. Not even remotely.

Communism is a socio-economic system in which the government controls the means of production, does not allow for the ownership of property at least on a large scale, and does not allow the price system to clear as it sets prices for various goods and services. To say that Edwards isn't far from being a communist because he wants to increase taxes and increase social spending belies a distorted view of both communism and the mixed economic structure the world operates in today.

Edwards, or a guy like him, could get elected, or has gotten elected in every single industrialized nation on the planet. He cannot in the United States because the political center of the United States sits on the right of the global political scale.

And, as a guy who grew up on a steady diet of Ayn Rand and who supported every Republican Presidential candidate except this one, it is interesting to be labeled a Leftie, which merely reinforces the quote in my sig.

Pretty Boy Edwards will not get elected because he is a clod. He is a poverty pimp, making millions while lecturing the rest of us how we are ignoring the "poor"

His neighbords do not like him, and re did not run for reelection to the US Senate because he knew he would lose

 

[Toro]

He's too left-wing for me.

 

[red states rule]

He's too left-wing for me.

and Hillary and Obama are not?

 

[Toro]

Robert Rubin isn't.

 

[red states rule]

Robert Rubin isn't.

What is he running for?

Hillary and Obama are your typical tax and spend liberals

 

[Toro]

The point is that if the former chairman of Goldman Sachs and the best Treasury Secretary this country has seen in at least my lifetime can work with them, I do not see them as being too left-wing.

 

[Toro]

What is he running for?

Hillary and Obama are your typical tax and spend liberals

Oh, and W is a tax-your-children and spend "conservative".

 

[maineman]

When has he ever said he wasn't?

when have we ever required people to publicly state that they are not communists? That sounds suspiciously like the precursor to McCathy-esque loyalty oaths to me!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Oh, and W is a tax-your-children and spend "conservative".

If you mean Bush, he is no conservative. And most of the people on the short list for winning the nomination are not either. But do remind us how the religious right owns and runs the republican party.

 

[Truthmatters]

I have never understood why some on the right HATE people who help others.

There seems to be this thing they do where if someone has money they are not supposed to help people who are poor and if they do they are called things like whores.

So it seems some think only the poor should help the poor.

Pretty wierd and extremely stupid chain of thought.

The kicker is they call themselfs the religious people and Jesus was all about helping others.

Its pretty obvious they merely hate people who do not call themselves Republicans.

 

[Toro]

If you mean Bush, he is no conservative. And most of the people on the short list for winning the nomination are not either. But do remind us how the religious right owns and runs the republican party.

The religious right is why I am no longer a Republican.

Well, that and there seems to be at least a limited tolerance for racism.

Oh, and the slavish devotion towards tax cuts regardless of the expense.

 

[Truthmatters]

I don't think races are equal. They aren't, in fact. The biggest lie of the 20th Century, and now, is that races are equal.

But you've inadvertently hit upon a curious contradiction of the liberal view of race. If YOU GUYS truly thought races were equal, there would be no need for affirmative action, "civil rights" laws, etc. But it's not "racial equality" you believe in, it's robbing from whites to give to blacks.

Moreover, if races were truly "all equal," then it wouldn't matter who lived where or with whom, really. We'd all be free to go our separate ways and nobody could bitch. But the truth is that if blacks and whites went their separate ways - Hispanics, too - blacks and Hispanics would slide into Third-World conditions in a matter of MONTHS. That's because they can't by themselves maintain good societies like whites can. They sponge off us. You know this is the painful truth.

Do you have any idea who the average wealfare recipient is?

Its a white divorced woman with children.

This robbing thing you hate so much would stop instantly if you moved from this country.
You see you dont want a democracy so why do you stay in one?

The people vote and we send our Reps. to the congress and they make the laws keeping in mind what they were elected for.

We as a country have decided to help keep poor childern fed and housed.
We also desided as a country we dont care what color the childrens skin is when we do this.

You disagree with everything this country is about.
The world you want will NEVER exsist in this country.
You will increasingly be forced to live near people of color.

The population will turn a majority of latino in just a few years and you will be surrounded by people you hate.

I truely sugest you leave this country.
I think you need to look into places which are VERY white and very likely to stay that way.
Maybe one of the Russian breakout countries.

Learn the language and move there.

YOU will NEVER get this country to lean your way and I and many ohters will do ALL we can to make sure it doesnt.

Face it your dicked leave.

 

[maineman]

If you mean Bush, he is no conservative. And most of the people on the short list for winning the nomination are not either. But do remind us how the religious right owns and runs the republican party.

they don't anymore.... and I think that Rudy especially poses a huge problem for the GOP come 2008. I think that many of the religious right base of the GOP across the country will be unwilling to hold their noses tight enough to talk themselves into going out to vote for a pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control New Yorker. I would think that lower than hoped for turnout from the GOP faithful combined with the completely energized democratic party base who are determined to change the leadership party in the white house may very well tilt the scales on some really key races in some battleground states.

 

[Toro]

Rudi beats Hillary.

 

[maineman]

so...the choice would be between a pro-choice, pro gay-rights, pro-gun control new york moderate with a diseased penis, and a pro-choice, pro gay-rights, pro-gun control new york moderate with a rarely used vagina?

good choice.

 

[hjmick]

so...the choice would be between a pro-choice, pro gay-rights, pro-gun control new york moderate with a diseased penis, and a pro-choice, pro gay-rights, pro-gun control new york moderate with a rarely used vagina?

good choice.

I think I'm going to cry.