And what about the numbers of Israelis prior to 2000 murdered by the Palestinians, you might find the numbers are evenly matched.
Huge Jury Award against Palestinian Groups [Palestinian Authority and PLO] in Terrorism Case.
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And what about the numbers of Israelis prior to 2000 murdered by the Palestinians, you might find the numbers are evenly matched.
P F Tinmore
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Indeed, with what Israel has stolen and mooched Haiti would be a prosperous country.To a small degree but without the CASH they would be NOWHERE...but Vig will elucidate for you when he finds out on Wiki for you......in a couple of months..steve
Wrong again. They rolled up their sleeves and built and defended their land, and turned it into the miracle it is today.
P F Tinmore
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P F Tinmore, et al,
I actually don't understand what the Palestinians are protecting and appealing.
Mark I. Sokolow, et al. v. Palestine Liberation Organization, et al.
Case Number: 1:04-cv-00397-GBD-RLE
Court: United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (New York County)
Description: New York, NY - Mark I. Sokolow and others sued the Palestine Liberation Organization and others claiming that they were injured and/or damaged by the defendants' violation of the U.S. Anti-Terrorism Act by backing a series of terrorist attacks in the early 2000s in Israel that killed or wounded them.
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You and I, have argued many times that the Palestinians violate Customary IHL by targeting civilians. It is not like it is something new. The Palestinians that has been an ongoing and standard practice for decades. You have stood and argued that Israeli citizens are fair game; right in this very discussion group. It has not been all that long ago that Palestinians kidnapped and killed 3 teenagers, then glorified the perpetrators.
You know, as well as I do, that:
Most Respectfully,
R
I actually don't understand what the Palestinians are protecting and appealing.
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Mark I. Sokolow, et al. v. Palestine Liberation Organization, et al.
Case Number: 1:04-cv-00397-GBD-RLE
Court: United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (New York County)
Description: New York, NY - Mark I. Sokolow and others sued the Palestine Liberation Organization and others claiming that they were injured and/or damaged by the defendants' violation of the U.S. Anti-Terrorism Act by backing a series of terrorist attacks in the early 2000s in Israel that killed or wounded them.
(COMMENT)
You and I, have argued many times that the Palestinians violate Customary IHL by targeting civilians. It is not like it is something new. The Palestinians that has been an ongoing and standard practice for decades. You have stood and argued that Israeli citizens are fair game; right in this very discussion group. It has not been all that long ago that Palestinians kidnapped and killed 3 teenagers, then glorified the perpetrators.
You know, as well as I do, that:
- Even today, Jihad and armed struggle are a matter of policy.
- You know as well as I do that the Palestinians have, within the government, terrorist masquerading as freedom fighter.
- You know as well as I do that the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade is a terrorist organization and the a military wing in the PLO.
- Outcome: Plaintiffs' verdict for $218.5 million.
Most Respectfully,
R
P F Tinmore
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Just another sham trial with no evidence like many others.
Indeed, with what Israel has stolen and mooched Haiti would be a prosperous country.To a small degree but without the CASH they would be NOWHERE...but Vig will elucidate for you when he finds out on Wiki for you......in a couple of months..steve
Wrong again. They rolled up their sleeves and built and defended their land, and turned it into the miracle it is today.
How about a link from a non partisan source ?
Then you cant complain when the US retaliates and starts arresting Palestinians can yo
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Sounds like the Palestinian savages got their butts kicked again.
Terrorism has a price.
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Palestinians do not have an inherent right to target and kill innocent civilians. You seem unable to accept this simple universally accepted fact.
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*It seems that Israel does.
RoccoR
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aris2chat, et al,
The right to kill Americans is not just idle language. Palestinians are always claiming some right.
In an article published July 16, 2013, a Senior Hamas Official, Dr 'Issam Adwan, former Minister of Palestinian Refugee Affairs, stated that the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) Is Entitled To Attack:
Most Respectfully,
R
The right to kill Americans is not just idle language. Palestinians are always claiming some right.
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In an article published July 16, 2013, a Senior Hamas Official, Dr 'Issam Adwan, former Minister of Palestinian Refugee Affairs, stated that the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) Is Entitled To Attack:
- Israel's Embassies,
- Israeli Interests,
- Israeli Officials Worldwide –
- The Interests of Israeli Allies, supporting the US
Most Respectfully,
R
P F Tinmore
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How is that different from Israel?
RoccoR
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In the early 1990's, the Israelis and the Palestinians made repeated attempts at negotiating a peace. The
Palestinian-Israeli Security Implementation Work Plan established a working framework for both parties (Arab - Israeli) to reduce the violence and negotiate peace. During 2000 and early 2001, intensive talks concerning final status issues, including water rights, refugees, settlers, the status of Jerusalem, and border and security issues. However they failed to reach an agreement.
The Israelis do not have a policy on the opened continuation of the Occupation; or a policy on the targeting of Arab-Palestinian civilians. Nor do the Israelis have an equivalent formal program promoting Jihad and Armed Struggle in the same way the Hostile Arab Palestinians do.
The Israelis operate a security containment program and antiterrorism operations that prevents (to the extent possible) Hostile Arab Palestinians (Jihadist, Fedayeen, terrorists, and insurgents) from conducting operations against the unarmed civilians. During the year 2000, terrorist organizations such as the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Hizbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PLFP), among others, conducted operations in Israel. Nearly 226 terror attacks, including suicide bombings, drive-by shootings, rocket & mortar attacks, the detonation of improvised explosive devices, and stabbings occurred in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Israeli sovereignty. Also during the year, more than 469 Israelis were killed and over 2,498 injured, a sharp increase from the previous year.
Israeli eventually responds to Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) Aggression (the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State). Prior to the initiation of Operation Protective Edge, the HoAP launched over 4000 rockets and mortars into Israeli Sovereignty and conducted several infiltrations by tunnel across the border into Israel.
Israel has the obligation to protects its citizens.
These are but a few differences in the way Israel does business. Yes, there are a number of differences in the way the HoAP conduct operations --- and that of Israel.
Most Respectfully,
R
In the early 1990's, the Israelis and the Palestinians made repeated attempts at negotiating a peace. The
Palestinian-Israeli Security Implementation Work Plan established a working framework for both parties (Arab - Israeli) to reduce the violence and negotiate peace. During 2000 and early 2001, intensive talks concerning final status issues, including water rights, refugees, settlers, the status of Jerusalem, and border and security issues. However they failed to reach an agreement.
(COMMENT)
The Israelis do not have a policy on the opened continuation of the Occupation; or a policy on the targeting of Arab-Palestinian civilians. Nor do the Israelis have an equivalent formal program promoting Jihad and Armed Struggle in the same way the Hostile Arab Palestinians do.
The Israelis operate a security containment program and antiterrorism operations that prevents (to the extent possible) Hostile Arab Palestinians (Jihadist, Fedayeen, terrorists, and insurgents) from conducting operations against the unarmed civilians. During the year 2000, terrorist organizations such as the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Hizbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PLFP), among others, conducted operations in Israel. Nearly 226 terror attacks, including suicide bombings, drive-by shootings, rocket & mortar attacks, the detonation of improvised explosive devices, and stabbings occurred in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Israeli sovereignty. Also during the year, more than 469 Israelis were killed and over 2,498 injured, a sharp increase from the previous year.
Israeli eventually responds to Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) Aggression (the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State). Prior to the initiation of Operation Protective Edge, the HoAP launched over 4000 rockets and mortars into Israeli Sovereignty and conducted several infiltrations by tunnel across the border into Israel.
Israel has the obligation to protects its citizens.
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective selfdefense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations (Chapter VII, Article 51 UN Charter)
Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, ---
The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 and 65 may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began. (Article 68, Geneva Convention)
The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited. Israel will conduct such countermeasure operations against HoAPs that violate this provision. (Article 51, Protocol 1, Geneva Convention)
Israel gives effective advance warning of attacks which may affect the civilian population, where circumstances do not permit. (Rule 20, Customary IHL)
Israel Launches attacks which would are considered adequate to engage and neutralize the target; with each target having resulting in a concrete and direct military advantage afterwards. (Rule 14, Customary IHL)
Israel does not practice a policy of using human shields, or launching attacks from populated civilian areas, near hospitals, or UN shelters and schools. (Rule 97, Customary IHL)
Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, ---
The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 and 65 may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began. (Article 68, Geneva Convention)
The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited. Israel will conduct such countermeasure operations against HoAPs that violate this provision. (Article 51, Protocol 1, Geneva Convention)
Israel gives effective advance warning of attacks which may affect the civilian population, where circumstances do not permit. (Rule 20, Customary IHL)
Israel Launches attacks which would are considered adequate to engage and neutralize the target; with each target having resulting in a concrete and direct military advantage afterwards. (Rule 14, Customary IHL)
Israel does not practice a policy of using human shields, or launching attacks from populated civilian areas, near hospitals, or UN shelters and schools. (Rule 97, Customary IHL)
These are but a few differences in the way Israel does business. Yes, there are a number of differences in the way the HoAP conduct operations --- and that of Israel.
Most Respectfully,
R
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Crikey Vig,I haven't been ***** Slapped for years.....now to your very misleading figures,I asked for the amount of "Aid" and money,American Taxpayers CASH and all others CASH has been paid to Israel since its inception in 1948.......and I mean from anyone,everywhere,......my request for this information was after Roudy implied that through Jews/Israelis HARD WORK !!!!!!! "The Miracle" had been achieved...this is errant nonsense of course......despite your assuming otherwise, Israel's economy is not in good shape at all.
Now bend down low...let me show you what I know.LOLsteve
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I ask not for any sympathy................But looking at the behaviour of Zionists/Israel......The fine Palestinian people you and your cohorts tried to eliminate,.......Could say exactly the same thing about YOU and YOUR COHORTS......you Guys make me PUKE,Wailing all the time that Palestinians and everyone else HATE YOU....which most don't .....But here you go again displaying YOUR IGNORANT HATREDS........There is something fundamentally Wrong with your sides Mental Ability...........It come from self hate.....and you assume that everyone else is like you..Sad But True.
As I said you are lazy.....and you and others just comment on the fringes and sound bites of this schism......you have no depth to any thing you say,just mindless Trollism............What I would like to ask is what the Fcuking Hell Motivates YOU ALL......apart from Fear and Hatred????
Remember in this conflict....it is the Israelis that OCCUPY Palestinian Land...........NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND......anyhow most in Israel are not the Jews in the Bible,which these strange Christians of America somehow think they are..........WHO ARE THESE WANNABEE JEWS anyway............they are not a Semitic People at all,just a mixture of Illegals from God knows where.......They have no more right to Palestine than I do.........something you and the rest of the Possee forget deliberately,to mention.
steve,Ever Living,Ever Faithful,Ever Sure.
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