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Huge Jury Award against Palestinian Groups [Palestinian Authority and PLO] in Terrorism Case.
- Thread starter Vigilante
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- Mar 16, 2012
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Fuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
- Mar 16, 2012
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What will the award be when Israel is found guilty of murdering 2,000 Palestinians in Gaza?
"The International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague has opened an inquiry to ascertain whether war crimes were committed against Palestinians when Israel bombed Gaza last year killing at least 2,000."
Court launches inquiry into Israeli war crimes The Times
Ha ha ha. an irrelevant court which will find Hamas guilty of shooting rockets into Israel from behind its own civilians.
montelatici, et al,
This is not exactly accurate.
The Office of the Prosecutor, procedurally, has opened a preliminary examination in to what they called: "situation in Palestine;" to make a determination on the reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation pursuant to the criteria under Part V --- Article 53(1), Rome Statutes.
I am sure that the court will find the jurisdiction and probably cause to start the formal investigation. But, the Palestinians probably won't like the consequences. While the Palestinians limited the alleged war crimes starting from June 13, 2014 — (a day after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and murdered by a Hamas cell in the West Bank) this will not preclude the defense from using this or previous events, as evidence. It will not preclude the introduction of evidence of the tunnels, rocket and mortar fire, or documents related to Palestinian Policy on pursuing Jihad and armed struggle. It will be interesting to see how the court finds the counter claims.
Most Respectfully,
R
This is not exactly accurate.
(COMMENT)What will the award be when Israel is found guilty of murdering 2,000 Palestinians in Gaza?
"The International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague has opened an inquiry to ascertain whether war crimes were committed against Palestinians when Israel bombed Gaza last year killing at least 2,000."
Court launches inquiry into Israeli war crimes The Times
The Office of the Prosecutor, procedurally, has opened a preliminary examination in to what they called: "situation in Palestine;" to make a determination on the reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation pursuant to the criteria under Part V --- Article 53(1), Rome Statutes.
The Prosecutor shall, having evaluated the information made available to him or her, initiate an investigation unless he or she determines that there is no reasonable basis to proceed under this Statute. In deciding whether to initiate an investigation, the Prosecutor shall consider whether:
(c) Taking into account the gravity of the crime and the interests of victims, there are nonetheless substantial reasons to believe that an investigation would not serve the interests of justice.
This is not the same as an investigation into the alleged crimes itself. This is to determine if the several different factors including Issues of Admissibility and the issue of conducting the investigation in an independently or impartially manner; as well as if the case is of sufficient gravity to justify further action by the Court.(a) The information available to the Prosecutor provides a reasonable basis to believe that a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court has been or is being committed;
(b) The case is or would be admissible under article 17; and(c) Taking into account the gravity of the crime and the interests of victims, there are nonetheless substantial reasons to believe that an investigation would not serve the interests of justice.
I am sure that the court will find the jurisdiction and probably cause to start the formal investigation. But, the Palestinians probably won't like the consequences. While the Palestinians limited the alleged war crimes starting from June 13, 2014 — (a day after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and murdered by a Hamas cell in the West Bank) this will not preclude the defense from using this or previous events, as evidence. It will not preclude the introduction of evidence of the tunnels, rocket and mortar fire, or documents related to Palestinian Policy on pursuing Jihad and armed struggle. It will be interesting to see how the court finds the counter claims.
Most Respectfully,
R
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I don't think Israel has a leg to stand on.montelatici, et al,
This is not exactly accurate.
(COMMENT)What will the award be when Israel is found guilty of murdering 2,000 Palestinians in Gaza?
"The International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague has opened an inquiry to ascertain whether war crimes were committed against Palestinians when Israel bombed Gaza last year killing at least 2,000."
Court launches inquiry into Israeli war crimes The Times
The Office of the Prosecutor, procedurally, has opened a preliminary examination in to what they called: "situation in Palestine;" to make a determination on the reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation pursuant to the criteria under Part V --- Article 53(1), Rome Statutes.
The Prosecutor shall, having evaluated the information made available to him or her, initiate an investigation unless he or she determines that there is no reasonable basis to proceed under this Statute. In deciding whether to initiate an investigation, the Prosecutor shall consider whether:This is not the same as an investigation into the alleged crimes itself. This is to determine if the several different factors including Issues of Admissibility and the issue of conducting the investigation in an independently or impartially manner; as well as if the case is of sufficient gravity to justify further action by the Court.
(a) The information available to the Prosecutor provides a reasonable basis to believe that a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court has been or is being committed;(b) The case is or would be admissible under article 17; and
(c) Taking into account the gravity of the crime and the interests of victims, there are nonetheless substantial reasons to believe that an investigation would not serve the interests of justice.
I am sure that the court will find the jurisdiction and probably cause to start the formal investigation. But, the Palestinians probably won't like the consequences. While the Palestinians limited the alleged war crimes starting from June 13, 2014 — (a day after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and murdered by a Hamas cell in the West Bank) this will not preclude the defense from using this or previous events, as evidence. It will not preclude the introduction of evidence of the tunnels, rocket and mortar fire, or documents related to Palestinian Policy on pursuing Jihad and armed struggle. It will be interesting to see how the court finds the counter claims.
Most Respectfully,
R
What I fear most is that Palestine will be represented by a bunch of squishy, old fart, PLO/PA lawyers who will not push the real issues.
I suggest a team that includes Noura Erakat, Lamis Deek, and Diana Buttu.
theliq
Platinum Member
- Banned
- #26
It is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
It is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
What a thing for you to say, Steve. Previously you told us you weren't anti-Semitic and now you are claiming that the court system in the U.S. is run by Jews. Did you read that little tidbit on some hate site? Maybe you can give us the name of all the head judges in the U.S. Are all their last names Goldberg, perchance, that you know they are Jews?
- Mar 16, 2012
- 59,362
- 17,680
- 2,180
It is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
Doesn't take more than a few drinks for you to start vomiting your anti semtism, does it?
- Mar 16, 2012
- 59,362
- 17,680
- 2,180
It is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
What a thing for you to say, Steve. Previously you told us you weren't anti-Semitic and now you are claiming that the court system in the U.S. is run by Jews. Did you read that little tidbit on some hate site? Maybe you can give us the name of all the head judges in the U.S. Are all their last names Goldberg, perchance, that you know they are Jews?
Like all mental illnesses and addictions, antisemitism has periods where the mentally ill / addicted person relapses into his old habits.
- Mar 16, 2012
- 59,362
- 17,680
- 2,180
I don't think Israel has a leg to stand on.montelatici, et al,
This is not exactly accurate.
(COMMENT)What will the award be when Israel is found guilty of murdering 2,000 Palestinians in Gaza?
"The International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague has opened an inquiry to ascertain whether war crimes were committed against Palestinians when Israel bombed Gaza last year killing at least 2,000."
Court launches inquiry into Israeli war crimes The Times
The Office of the Prosecutor, procedurally, has opened a preliminary examination in to what they called: "situation in Palestine;" to make a determination on the reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation pursuant to the criteria under Part V --- Article 53(1), Rome Statutes.
The Prosecutor shall, having evaluated the information made available to him or her, initiate an investigation unless he or she determines that there is no reasonable basis to proceed under this Statute. In deciding whether to initiate an investigation, the Prosecutor shall consider whether:This is not the same as an investigation into the alleged crimes itself. This is to determine if the several different factors including Issues of Admissibility and the issue of conducting the investigation in an independently or impartially manner; as well as if the case is of sufficient gravity to justify further action by the Court.
(a) The information available to the Prosecutor provides a reasonable basis to believe that a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court has been or is being committed;(b) The case is or would be admissible under article 17; and
(c) Taking into account the gravity of the crime and the interests of victims, there are nonetheless substantial reasons to believe that an investigation would not serve the interests of justice.
I am sure that the court will find the jurisdiction and probably cause to start the formal investigation. But, the Palestinians probably won't like the consequences. While the Palestinians limited the alleged war crimes starting from June 13, 2014 — (a day after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and murdered by a Hamas cell in the West Bank) this will not preclude the defense from using this or previous events, as evidence. It will not preclude the introduction of evidence of the tunnels, rocket and mortar fire, or documents related to Palestinian Policy on pursuing Jihad and armed struggle. It will be interesting to see how the court finds the counter claims.
Most Respectfully,
R
What I fear most is that Palestine will be represented by a bunch of squishy, old fart, PLO/PA lawyers who will not push the real issues.
I suggest a team that includes Noura Erakat, Lamis Deek, and Diana Buttu.
Isrsel is a strong, prosperous, advanced democratic nation while on the other than there has never been a Palestinian state. Palestinians are ruled by thieves, derelicts, or terrorists. Take your pick. Its the Palestinians that have nothing to stand on.
theliq
Platinum Member
- Banned
- #34
Don't be silly Hoss,many in the USA Judishury (excuse the spelling) like the Finance Sector etc are prominently Jewish considering the % of Jews in the US it is a high %It is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
What a thing for you to say, Steve. Previously you told us you weren't anti-Semitic and now you are claiming that the court system in the U.S. is run by Jews. Did you read that little tidbit on some hate site? Maybe you can give us the name of all the head judges in the U.S. Are all their last names Goldberg, perchance, that you know they are Jews?
Am I Anti Jewish.....NO......Am I Anti Zionist ...Yes but the fundamental hypocrisy was that Palestinians are being to held account but the Israelis are Not...........Why IS THAT
theliq
Platinum Member
- Banned
- #36
Speak for yourself Roudy,now you are being Unwise and Foolish by your one-liner..steveIt is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
What a thing for you to say, Steve. Previously you told us you weren't anti-Semitic and now you are claiming that the court system in the U.S. is run by Jews. Did you read that little tidbit on some hate site? Maybe you can give us the name of all the head judges in the U.S. Are all their last names Goldberg, perchance, that you know they are Jews?
Like all mental illnesses and addictions, antisemitism has periods where the mentally ill / addicted person relapses into his old habits.
Vigilante
Diamond Member
- Thread starter
- Banned
- #38
Don't be silly Hoss,many in the USA Judishury (excuse the spelling) like the Finance Sector etc are prominently Jewish considering the % of Jews in the US it is a high %It is a JOKE Roudy considering the number of innocent Palestinians Murdered by Settlers and all...but then the US Judicury is run by Jews as is everything else in the USA.....but it gives you something for you Guys to bleat about....But the Hyprocricy sic is appaulling.....steve..trust you and the family are wellFuck them!
New York Times ^
The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization were found liable on Monday by a jury in Manhattan for their role in knowingly supporting six terrorist attacks in Israel between 2002 and 2004 in which Americans were killed and injured. The damages are to be $655.5 million, under a special terrorism law that provides for tripling the $218.5 million awarded by the jury in Federal District Court. The verdict ended a decade-long legal battle to hold the Palestinian organizations responsible for the terrorist acts. While the decision was a huge victory for the dozens of plaintiffs, it could also serve...
About time!
What a thing for you to say, Steve. Previously you told us you weren't anti-Semitic and now you are claiming that the court system in the U.S. is run by Jews. Did you read that little tidbit on some hate site? Maybe you can give us the name of all the head judges in the U.S. Are all their last names Goldberg, perchance, that you know they are Jews?
Am I Anti Jewish.....NO......Am I Anti Zionist ...Yes but the fundamental hypocrisy was that Palestinians are being to held account but the Israelis are Not...........Why IS THAT
We can start with this...
theliq
Platinum Member
- Banned
- #40
STOP all overseas Monies and Israelis would be living in Mud Huts......as you well know RoudyI don't think Israel has a leg to stand on.montelatici, et al,
This is not exactly accurate.
(COMMENT)What will the award be when Israel is found guilty of murdering 2,000 Palestinians in Gaza?
"The International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague has opened an inquiry to ascertain whether war crimes were committed against Palestinians when Israel bombed Gaza last year killing at least 2,000."
Court launches inquiry into Israeli war crimes The Times
The Office of the Prosecutor, procedurally, has opened a preliminary examination in to what they called: "situation in Palestine;" to make a determination on the reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation pursuant to the criteria under Part V --- Article 53(1), Rome Statutes.
The Prosecutor shall, having evaluated the information made available to him or her, initiate an investigation unless he or she determines that there is no reasonable basis to proceed under this Statute. In deciding whether to initiate an investigation, the Prosecutor shall consider whether:This is not the same as an investigation into the alleged crimes itself. This is to determine if the several different factors including Issues of Admissibility and the issue of conducting the investigation in an independently or impartially manner; as well as if the case is of sufficient gravity to justify further action by the Court.
(a) The information available to the Prosecutor provides a reasonable basis to believe that a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court has been or is being committed;(b) The case is or would be admissible under article 17; and
(c) Taking into account the gravity of the crime and the interests of victims, there are nonetheless substantial reasons to believe that an investigation would not serve the interests of justice.
I am sure that the court will find the jurisdiction and probably cause to start the formal investigation. But, the Palestinians probably won't like the consequences. While the Palestinians limited the alleged war crimes starting from June 13, 2014 — (a day after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and murdered by a Hamas cell in the West Bank) this will not preclude the defense from using this or previous events, as evidence. It will not preclude the introduction of evidence of the tunnels, rocket and mortar fire, or documents related to Palestinian Policy on pursuing Jihad and armed struggle. It will be interesting to see how the court finds the counter claims.
Most Respectfully,
R
What I fear most is that Palestine will be represented by a bunch of squishy, old fart, PLO/PA lawyers who will not push the real issues.
I suggest a team that includes Noura Erakat, Lamis Deek, and Diana Buttu.
Isrsel is a strong, prosperous, advanced democratic nation while on the other than there has never been a Palestinian state. Palestinians are ruled by thieves, derelicts, or terrorists. Take your pick. Its the Palestinians that have nothing to stand on.
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