How will Trump deal with the Venezuelan Guerrilla forces that control much of the Country and its mineral wealth.



Venezuelans are taking this HARD.

LOOK AT THE AGONY AND OUTRAGE! 😳😮😮😮

Just like Iraq. The question is what comes after. You do understand that, don’t you? Trump says he wants to run Venezuela.
 
I expect most of South America will be vehemently opposed to a US occupation. I would also expect many of them to fall further into the arms of China.
Once again, China will position themselves as the adult in the room

The voice of reason

Why, exactly would South American countries align with the U.S.?
 
My post is about the realities of a US occupation of Venezuela. That you live in a friggin fantasy world and see everything through Trumpist rose colored glasses doesn’t mean the rest of us do.
No it isn't. Your post is nothing but a rage post against Trump. If it had been a Democrat, you'd have not posted this drivel.

The US does NOT occupy Venezuela. We have simply put a criminal behind bars and will stablize the aftermath and get big energy to pay for it.

A win-win for America and the world.

In a year, Venezuela will not even be in the news, it will be forgotten, and the media will either ignore it if it is successful or begin running operations to undermine the success of it for their own political power.
 
No it isn't. Your post is nothing but a rage post against Trump. If it had been a Democrat, you'd have not posted this drivel.

The US does NOT occupy Venezuela. We have simply put a criminal behind bars and will stablize the aftermath and get big energy to pay for it.

A win-win for America and the world.

In a year, Venezuela will not even be in the news, it will be forgotten, and the media will either ignore it if it is successful or begin running operations to undermine the success of it for their own political power.
Yeah,,just like they said about Iraq. Listen to Trump’s own words. He said he wants to run Venezuela. So, how will he deal with guerillas and drug gangs that control much of that country. That you are too afraid to deal with question, is not my problem. The OP is for those not afraid to deal with the consequences of Trump’s actions today.
 
Yeah,,just like they said about Iraq. Listen to Trump’s own words. He said he wants to run Venezuela. So, how will he deal with guerillas and drug gangs that control much of that country. That you are too afraid to deal with question, is not my problem. The OP is for those not afraid to deal with the consequences of Trump’s actions today.
Well, one of the reasons Venezuela may fail is if the leftwing in the Congress manage to betray the American people by undermining the efforts, which is the biggest reason they are consulted AFTER the fact.

They will betray America and America's actions for political power and to oppose Trump.

I think Trump should announce a cure of cancer just to watch the left come out in favor of everyone getting cancer.
 
W. said the exact same thing Trump is saying today. Venezuela is a basket case just like Iraq..maybe worse as they have been fighting a growing insurgency from guerilla forces and gangs for years. Read the history of Columbia to learn how brutal South American insurgents can be.
Woody Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson make Trump look like a piker.
 
Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.

Vast tracts of Venezuelan territory rich in critical and rare earth minerals are now controlled by Colombian guerrillas. “They have many armed people. They control everything, and nothing has changed. The only difference is that now most of the Indigenous people are there, with them,” said a young Indigenous Venezuelan we’ll call Carlos* for security reasons. He described how the National Liberation Army (ELN) seized areas rich in coltan, tin ore, and rare earth elements in the southwest of the country. The ELN now sits at the center of a new mining boom.

Most extraction occurs in the Venezuelan states of Amazonas and Bolívar. In Amazonas, mining is prohibited by decree. In Bolívar, it is concentrated in the government-declared Orinoco Mining Arc, established in 2016. While exact timelines are hard to confirm, there is general agreement that rudimentary extraction began around 15 years ago in Cedeño municipality, near a site called Morichalito, close to the Parguaza area….

By 2010, as the global race for critical minerals accelerated, buyers began to appear and local miners were displaced from their extraction sites. Carlos and Josué said that hundreds of armed ELN combatants began seizing the most productive mining sites in 2023, bringing new workers to the region.

When the guerrillas took control, Indigenous leaders were coerced, threatened, or bought off by irregular forces. Those unwilling to work under the guerrilla regime could only work at night, in hidden mining sites.

In Amazonas and northwestern Bolívar, where most critical mineral mines are located, the ELN’s José Daniel Pérez Carrero front and the Acacio Medina Segunda Marquetalia Front, a former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) dissident group, operated in alliance, dividing territory and mines while sharing drug-trafficking routes.

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Trump admits his invasion was about controlling Venezuelan oil resources but it is also about rare earth minerals that are abundant in Venezuela.

The question is how will Trump access these resources. How many troops will Trump commit to gain access to these minerals.

Maduro could not control these resources, so how will the US.


This is where you sit back and watch the adults go to work.
 
Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.

Vast tracts of Venezuelan territory rich in critical and rare earth minerals are now controlled by Colombian guerrillas. “They have many armed people. They control everything, and nothing has changed. The only difference is that now most of the Indigenous people are there, with them,” said a young Indigenous Venezuelan we’ll call Carlos* for security reasons. He described how the National Liberation Army (ELN) seized areas rich in coltan, tin ore, and rare earth elements in the southwest of the country. The ELN now sits at the center of a new mining boom.

Most extraction occurs in the Venezuelan states of Amazonas and Bolívar. In Amazonas, mining is prohibited by decree. In Bolívar, it is concentrated in the government-declared Orinoco Mining Arc, established in 2016. While exact timelines are hard to confirm, there is general agreement that rudimentary extraction began around 15 years ago in Cedeño municipality, near a site called Morichalito, close to the Parguaza area….

By 2010, as the global race for critical minerals accelerated, buyers began to appear and local miners were displaced from their extraction sites. Carlos and Josué said that hundreds of armed ELN combatants began seizing the most productive mining sites in 2023, bringing new workers to the region.

When the guerrillas took control, Indigenous leaders were coerced, threatened, or bought off by irregular forces. Those unwilling to work under the guerrilla regime could only work at night, in hidden mining sites.

In Amazonas and northwestern Bolívar, where most critical mineral mines are located, the ELN’s José Daniel Pérez Carrero front and the Acacio Medina Segunda Marquetalia Front, a former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) dissident group, operated in alliance, dividing territory and mines while sharing drug-trafficking routes.

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Trump admits his invasion was about controlling Venezuelan oil resources but it is also about rare earth minerals that are abundant in Venezuela.

The question is how will Trump access these resources. How many troops will Trump commit to gain access to these minerals.

Maduro could not control these resources, so how will the US.
I have not heard trump say the US is going to run Venezuala

Do you have a link?
 
Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.

Vast tracts of Venezuelan territory rich in critical and rare earth minerals are now controlled by Colombian guerrillas. “They have many armed people. They control everything, and nothing has changed. The only difference is that now most of the Indigenous people are there, with them,” said a young Indigenous Venezuelan we’ll call Carlos* for security reasons. He described how the National Liberation Army (ELN) seized areas rich in coltan, tin ore, and rare earth elements in the southwest of the country. The ELN now sits at the center of a new mining boom.

Most extraction occurs in the Venezuelan states of Amazonas and Bolívar. In Amazonas, mining is prohibited by decree. In Bolívar, it is concentrated in the government-declared Orinoco Mining Arc, established in 2016. While exact timelines are hard to confirm, there is general agreement that rudimentary extraction began around 15 years ago in Cedeño municipality, near a site called Morichalito, close to the Parguaza area….

By 2010, as the global race for critical minerals accelerated, buyers began to appear and local miners were displaced from their extraction sites. Carlos and Josué said that hundreds of armed ELN combatants began seizing the most productive mining sites in 2023, bringing new workers to the region.

When the guerrillas took control, Indigenous leaders were coerced, threatened, or bought off by irregular forces. Those unwilling to work under the guerrilla regime could only work at night, in hidden mining sites.

In Amazonas and northwestern Bolívar, where most critical mineral mines are located, the ELN’s José Daniel Pérez Carrero front and the Acacio Medina Segunda Marquetalia Front, a former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) dissident group, operated in alliance, dividing territory and mines while sharing drug-trafficking routes.

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Trump admits his invasion was about controlling Venezuelan oil resources but it is also about rare earth minerals that are abundant in Venezuela.

The question is how will Trump access these resources. How many troops will Trump commit to gain access to these minerals.

Maduro could not control these resources, so how will the US.
Comparing the force of the US to a tin pot, drug lord like Maduro is laughable....But, we'll find out, wont we? :popcorn:
 
This is where you sit back and watch the adults go to work.
That is what you neocons said about Iraq. We know how that turned out.
 
I have not heard trump say the US is going to run Venezuala

Do you have a link?
Trump did say that we would do that...But as usual liars like JWL leaves out that it will be a panel of people, and only until we can get leadership in there to do the job....

 
Just like Iraq. The question is what comes after. You do understand that, don’t you? Trump says he wants to run Venezuela.
Endless airstrikes will help. Maduro did not win the last election. Like Joe.
 
My post is about the realities of a US occupation of Venezuela. That you live in a friggin fantasy world and see everything through Trumpist rose colored glasses doesn’t mean the rest of us do.
We can dance with then if need be....They folded like a cheap suit last evening.

 
That is what you neocons said about Iraq. We know how that turned out.
President Trump is not Bush or a neocon.

He just did a Regime Change in one night. And we get to benefit from it as we will get some cheap oil out of it. Bush gave the oil away to corrupt Iraqis who sold it to France.
 
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President Trump is not Bush or a neocon.

He just did a Regime Change in one night. And we get to benefit from it as we will get some cheap oil out of it. Bush gave the oil away to corrupt Iraqis who sold it to France.
Trump is a neocon in disguise. Different name; same policies.
 
The mines are not worth much if what is mined cannot be sold. It isn't as if those currently controlling the mines are manufacturing anything. It should not be difficult to interdict export of mined materials, thus ending the profitability.
Otherwise, the entire affair is fraught with problems and potentially disastrous consequences. It all has an unreal quality to it.
 
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