How To "Free Palestine"

[Sixties Fan]

Maybe the best way to solve the Israeli-palestinian problem would be a binational State for Jews and Palestinians.
Rational and good Israelis and Palestinians should talk and make this possible

I have always said that a secular democratic state for all the inhabitants of Palestine/Israel would be the solution. That's what the Muslims and Christians have wanted since the Mandate was signed in the 20s.

You must know that the Israelis want their country to be exclusively Jewish and they also want the Palestinian Territories to be part of Israel. Logically this means modern Israel is to be an apartheid state. Perhaps then the world will isolate the Zionist state as it did to white rule in South Africa.

It seems that not everybody in Israel wants a "Jews only" state.
This link says most Israelis support a referendum on this matter

Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

The Two state solution as proposed only addresses the rights of a minority of the Palestinians. What about the rest of them?

Yes. Isn't it just awful for the rest of the Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists would help free them back to their native Arab countries?

Do you not mean their Native Arabian Peninsula?
They can choose any modern country they like, if only the governments will let them return.

 

[montelatici]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

But the Italians, Japanese and Chinese did not go to the U.S. to take over and rule over the people that were living there. LOL

 

[Sixties Fan]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

But the Italians, Japanese and Chinese did not go to the U.S. to take over and rule over the people that were living there. LOL

You must be joking !!!!

They moved into land already taken over by the British and American governments and the populations already subjugated.

The point I made, and you do know which point it was which I made, is that in Los Angeles, or New York City and other cities, there are suburbs in the city called Chinatown, Little Tokyo, etc.

No one made them move to those areas, or are forcing them to stay there.

Is it the same thing with Rahat, Nazareth and other cities in Israel.

Now, ask all the Arab Christians in Bethlehem why they went from being 85% of the population in that city before 1993, to being only 15% of the population now.
It is a city under PA control since the Oslo Accords.

 

[montelatici]

I have always said that a secular democratic state for all the inhabitants of Palestine/Israel would be the solution. That's what the Muslims and Christians have wanted since the Mandate was signed in the 20s.

You must know that the Israelis want their country to be exclusively Jewish and they also want the Palestinian Territories to be part of Israel. Logically this means modern Israel is to be an apartheid state. Perhaps then the world will isolate the Zionist state as it did to white rule in South Africa.

It seems that not everybody in Israel wants a "Jews only" state.
This link says most Israelis support a referendum on this matter

Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

The Two state solution as proposed only addresses the rights of a minority of the Palestinians. What about the rest of them?

Yes. Isn't it just awful for the rest of the Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists would help free them back to their native Arab countries?

Do you not mean their Native Arabian Peninsula?
They can choose any modern country they like, if only the governments will let them return.

Do you think Arabs, people that speak Arabic, are all Arabians? Algerians are Berbers, they aren't from Arabia, they are Arabs because they speak Arabic. For example Tunisians:

 

[montelatici]

Ashkenazi Jews are more Arabian than Tunisians.

Did you know these non-Arab countries actually have some Arabian genes?
1. Georgia: 5 percent

2. Iran: 56 percent

3. The Luhya people of Kenya: 2 percent

4. Natives of Madagascar: 2 percent

5. The Northern Caucasus (including Dagestanis and Abkhazians): 9 percent

6. Tajikistan (Pamiri mountains): 6 percent

7. Sardinia: 3 percent

8. Southern India: 2 percent

9. Western India: 6 percent

10. Indonesia: 6 percent

11. Ethiopia: 11 percent

12. Ashkenazi Jews (Jews who originated in Eastern Europe): 10 percent

DNA analysis proves Arabs aren't entirely Arab
The National Geographic's Genographic project gives us surprising information about Arab genetic makeup.
2017-01-12 12:05

DNA analysis proves Arabs aren't entirely Arab

 

[Sixties Fan]

You must know that the Israelis want their country to be exclusively Jewish and they also want the Palestinian Territories to be part of Israel. Logically this means modern Israel is to be an apartheid state. Perhaps then the world will isolate the Zionist state as it did to white rule in South Africa.

It seems that not everybody in Israel wants a "Jews only" state.
This link says most Israelis support a referendum on this matter

Most Israelis support referendum on two states - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

The Two state solution as proposed only addresses the rights of a minority of the Palestinians. What about the rest of them?

Yes. Isn't it just awful for the rest of the Palestinians living in Israel? Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists would help free them back to their native Arab countries?

Do you not mean their Native Arabian Peninsula?
They can choose any modern country they like, if only the governments will let them return.

Do you think Arabs, people that speak Arabic, are all Arabians? Algerians are Berbers, they aren't from Arabia, they are Arabs because they speak Arabic. For example Tunisians:

The Habit of generalizing !!!!

No, not all who speak Arabic have their roots in the Arabian Peninsula.
Not all who speak Hebrew have their roots in the Land of Israel.
Not all who speak English have their roots in England.
Not all who speak Spanish have their roots in Spain.
Not all who speak French have their roots in France.

Generalizing only propagates more ignorance.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

More Israeli bullshit.



Israel has surrounded Nazareth with Jewish settlements and building permits for non Jews are almost impossible to get.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Ashkenazi Jews are more Arabian than Tunisians.

Did you know these non-Arab countries actually have some Arabian genes?
1. Georgia: 5 percent

2. Iran: 56 percent

3. The Luhya people of Kenya: 2 percent

4. Natives of Madagascar: 2 percent

5. The Northern Caucasus (including Dagestanis and Abkhazians): 9 percent

6. Tajikistan (Pamiri mountains): 6 percent

7. Sardinia: 3 percent

8. Southern India: 2 percent

9. Western India: 6 percent

10. Indonesia: 6 percent

11. Ethiopia: 11 percent

12. Ashkenazi Jews (Jews who originated in Eastern Europe): 10 percent

DNA analysis proves Arabs aren't entirely Arab
The National Geographic's Genographic project gives us surprising information about Arab genetic makeup.
2017-01-12 12:05

DNA analysis proves Arabs aren't entirely Arab

The genes, if it is a reliable data, only points to the fact that people move, that Arabs were in all of those areas, and that they intermarried with the indigenous populations of those areas.

What else is new?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
---------

You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
---------

You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

More Israeli bullshit.



Israel has surrounded Nazareth with Jewish settlements and building permits for non Jews are almost impossible to get.

Cry a river.

Arab and Jewish and Druze and Beduine villages existed near each other for centuries.

If there are more Jews in Israel than Muslims and Christians, then there will be more cities with Jews in the country.

Count the number of Jewish cities left in TransJordan.

Count the number of Jewish cities left in Gaza, Judea and Samaria between 1948 and 1967.

Count the number of Jews in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem 1948 to 1967.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
---------

You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

More Israeli bullshit.



Israel has surrounded Nazareth with Jewish settlements and building permits for non Jews are almost impossible to get.

Cry a river.

Arab and Jewish and Druze and Beduine villages existed near each other for centuries.

If there are more Jews in Israel than Muslims and Christians, then there will be more cities with Jews in the country.

Count the number of Jewish cities left in TransJordan.

Count the number of Jewish cities left in Gaza, Judea and Samaria between 1948 and 1967.

Count the number of Jews in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem 1948 to 1967.

You can always tell an Israel supporter.

They are full of shit.

 

[montelatici]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

But the Italians, Japanese and Chinese did not go to the U.S. to take over and rule over the people that were living there. LOL

You must be joking !!!!

They moved into land already taken over by the British and American governments and the populations already subjugated.

The point I made, and you do know which point it was which I made, is that in Los Angeles, or New York City and other cities, there are suburbs in the city called Chinatown, Little Tokyo, etc.

No one made them move to those areas, or are forcing them to stay there.

Is it the same thing with Rahat, Nazareth and other cities in Israel.

Now, ask all the Arab Christians in Bethlehem why they went from being 85% of the population in that city before 1993, to being only 15% of the population now.
It is a city under PA control since the Oslo Accords.

I did when I was there. They are leaving because of the occupation. But, 60 minutes explained this in a program several years ago. Below is an update to that program. It's the occupation.

One-thousand Christians abandon the Holy Land every year

This item updates item 'Christians of the Holy Land: Special report by 60 Minutes and Bob Simon, includes Overtime'
By the year 2020, the Christian community in the Holy Land could be
non-existent. Over the past 70 years the percentage of Christians in
Jerusalem has gone from 15 to 2 percent. In a response to Israeli Ambassador, Michael Oren's comments, Palestinian Christians solely placed the blame for emigration on the Israeli occupation and treatment as second class citizens.


Read more at

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[Sixties Fan]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

In the meantime, what are the Arab members of Knesset planning or doing about it?
When are they going to address the problems some of the Arab citizens ask them to deal with, like what may or may not be Lod, in the video.

Is this Lod, or Pallywood?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

But the Italians, Japanese and Chinese did not go to the U.S. to take over and rule over the people that were living there. LOL

You must be joking !!!!

They moved into land already taken over by the British and American governments and the populations already subjugated.

The point I made, and you do know which point it was which I made, is that in Los Angeles, or New York City and other cities, there are suburbs in the city called Chinatown, Little Tokyo, etc.

No one made them move to those areas, or are forcing them to stay there.

Is it the same thing with Rahat, Nazareth and other cities in Israel.

Now, ask all the Arab Christians in Bethlehem why they went from being 85% of the population in that city before 1993, to being only 15% of the population now.
It is a city under PA control since the Oslo Accords.

I did when I was there. They are leaving because of the occupation. But, 60 minutes explained this in a program several years ago. Below is an update to that program. It's the occupation.

One-thousand Christians abandon the Holy Land every year

This item updates item 'Christians of the Holy Land: Special report by 60 Minutes and Bob Simon, includes Overtime'
By the year 2020, the Christian community in the Holy Land could be
non-existent. Over the past 70 years the percentage of Christians in
Jerusalem has gone from 15 to 2 percent. In a response to Israeli Ambassador, Michael Oren's comments, Palestinian Christians solely placed the blame for emigration on the Israeli occupation and treatment as second class citizens.


Read more at

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LOL

All because of the OCCUPATION !!!!!

 

[Sixties Fan]

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

But the Italians, Japanese and Chinese did not go to the U.S. to take over and rule over the people that were living there. LOL

You must be joking !!!!

They moved into land already taken over by the British and American governments and the populations already subjugated.

The point I made, and you do know which point it was which I made, is that in Los Angeles, or New York City and other cities, there are suburbs in the city called Chinatown, Little Tokyo, etc.

No one made them move to those areas, or are forcing them to stay there.

Is it the same thing with Rahat, Nazareth and other cities in Israel.

Now, ask all the Arab Christians in Bethlehem why they went from being 85% of the population in that city before 1993, to being only 15% of the population now.
It is a city under PA control since the Oslo Accords.

I did when I was there. They are leaving because of the occupation. But, 60 minutes explained this in a program several years ago. Below is an update to that program. It's the occupation.

One-thousand Christians abandon the Holy Land every year

This item updates item 'Christians of the Holy Land: Special report by 60 Minutes and Bob Simon, includes Overtime'
By the year 2020, the Christian community in the Holy Land could be
non-existent. Over the past 70 years the percentage of Christians in
Jerusalem has gone from 15 to 2 percent. In a response to Israeli Ambassador, Michael Oren's comments, Palestinian Christians solely placed the blame for emigration on the Israeli occupation and treatment as second class citizens.


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Generalizing again.

Non Muslims were not allowed to worship in their holy sites between 1948 and 1967, during the Jordanian Occupation.

Now, Christians are leaving the Holy Land, from parts controlled by the Palestinian Authority, and going into Israel.

Why are Palestinian Christians Fleeing? - Providence


"Generalizing leads to group ignorance"

 

[esthermoon]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

More Israeli bullshit.



Israel has surrounded Nazareth with Jewish settlements and building permits for non Jews are almost impossible to get.

In the video that girl says all the houses in her grandfather village were demolished in 1951 but I don't understand why the church is still there.
Why didn't they demolish the church?

 

[montelatici]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

More Israeli bullshit.



Israel has surrounded Nazareth with Jewish settlements and building permits for non Jews are almost impossible to get.

In the video that girl says all the houses in her grandfather village were demolished in 1951 but I don't understand why the church is still there.
Why didn't they demolish the church?

Demolishing homes makes it unlikely that the native people will return. Demolishing a church, not so much.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In the meantime, what are the Arab members of Knesset planning or doing about it?

Good question. How much of their proposed legislation becomes law?

Is it more than Zero?

 

[montelatici]

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
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You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

But the Italians, Japanese and Chinese did not go to the U.S. to take over and rule over the people that were living there. LOL

You must be joking !!!!

They moved into land already taken over by the British and American governments and the populations already subjugated.

The point I made, and you do know which point it was which I made, is that in Los Angeles, or New York City and other cities, there are suburbs in the city called Chinatown, Little Tokyo, etc.

No one made them move to those areas, or are forcing them to stay there.

Is it the same thing with Rahat, Nazareth and other cities in Israel.

Now, ask all the Arab Christians in Bethlehem why they went from being 85% of the population in that city before 1993, to being only 15% of the population now.
It is a city under PA control since the Oslo Accords.

I did when I was there. They are leaving because of the occupation. But, 60 minutes explained this in a program several years ago. Below is an update to that program. It's the occupation.

One-thousand Christians abandon the Holy Land every year

This item updates item 'Christians of the Holy Land: Special report by 60 Minutes and Bob Simon, includes Overtime'
By the year 2020, the Christian community in the Holy Land could be
non-existent. Over the past 70 years the percentage of Christians in
Jerusalem has gone from 15 to 2 percent. In a response to Israeli Ambassador, Michael Oren's comments, Palestinian Christians solely placed the blame for emigration on the Israeli occupation and treatment as second class citizens.


Read more at

Embedded media from this media site is no longer available

Embedded media from this media site is no longer available

Generalizing again.

Non Muslims were not allowed to worship in their holy sites between 1948 and 1967, during the Jordanian Occupation.

Now, Christians are leaving the Holy Land, from parts controlled by the Palestinian Authority, and going into Israel.

Why are Palestinian Christians Fleeing? - Providence


"Generalizing leads to group ignorance"

“There is talk as if the West is genuinely interested in Christians, but most of the time they only use them for their own political ends,” says Mitri Raheb, pastor of a church in Bethlehem. He says that the Israeli occupation hurts Palestinian Christians far more than persecution by Muslims, but provokes less outrage in the West.

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...s-are-leaving-middle-east-and-then-there-were

 

[P F Tinmore]

Free Palestine !

Of the endless ignorance surrounding the Israeli-Arab conflict.

10 Reasons Israel Is Not An 'Apartheid' State

Of course Israel is an apartheid state. The Hasbara produced propaganda conveniently forgets the at least 50 discriminatory laws against non-Jews, including religion/ethnic based classification of people within Israel, not to mention the "Law of Return" which only benefits those practicing Judaism.

More importantly it ignores the Israeli "Bantustans" (the occupied territories) which are controlled by Israel and wherein Jews are separated and have civil rights, while the non-Jews are separated from Jews by walls or militarized separation zones. Israel is an analog of Apartheid South Africa.

As a religious-colonial-settler state, Israel is a country that was built to the needs and whims of Europeans that practiced Judaism, in much the same way European Christian nationalism was used to shape apartheid South Africa.

Not to mention bantustans inside Israel like Rahat and Nazareth.

But you have never been to Israel.
Hearsay is not the same as Eyewitness.
No one forced the Muslims and Christians into Nazareth.
They have been there for centuries due to Christian and Muslim beliefs.
And Nazareth is still a city with high tourism.
No one is kept prisoner or not allowed to go in or out.

Nazareth - Wikipedia
In March 2010, the Israeli government approved a $3 million plan to develop Nazareth's tourism industry. New businesses receive start-up grants of up to 30 percent of their initial investment from the Ministry of Tourism.[90]



Rahat (Hebrew: רַהַט‎, Arabic: رهط‎‎) is a predominantly Bedouin city in the Southern District of Israel. In 2015 it had a population of 62,415. As such, it is the largest Bedouin settlement in the world, and the only one in Israel to have city status.
---------

You clearly do not know how non Jewish communities work in Israel.
Druze, Bedouins and other Arab communities have remained in the cities they populated. They are not forced into being together. They are together because they are a community.

No one forced the Japanese into Little Tokyo.
Or the Chinese into Chinatown.
Or the Italians into Little Italy.

They moved where their communities were without being forced into it.

More Israeli bullshit.



Israel has surrounded Nazareth with Jewish settlements and building permits for non Jews are almost impossible to get.

In the video that girl says all the houses in her grandfather village were demolished in 1951 but I don't understand why the church is still there.
Why didn't they demolish the church?

Good question.

There is a big thing in international treaties and international law about the preservation of holy sites. Sometimes this leaves the church the only building standing.