How to end poverty in America.
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That would be one step. We also need to stop providing Government money and services to people who have made their own unpleasant circumstances.
Hellbilly
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Some poor people don’t have kids.
Hellbilly
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Many aren’t
Mac-7
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That sums it up pretty well
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What even is poverty in America? Yes, a few are at a level so low that it is shameful for this country so immensely rich. They should be raised up. At the same time, to be frank and honest, aven the poorest person is richer than kings were in ancient times. If people examined a bit more closely what they have instead of what they don't have, they would be much less discontent.
Toddsterpatriot
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By 8 they should be able to support themselves, damn it. They already know everything at that age according to them.
For sure the number one reason for child poverty in the USA is single parenthood. That doesn't mean ALL single parents are living in poverty, but it remains the number one cause of child poverty in America. Children raised by two responsible biological parents are almost never live in poverty.
And the fact remains that the poor in America are much better off that are the poor in almost every other country.
Winston
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What a tired canard. How do you define not able to provide for? On food assistance? On Medicaid? Rental assistance? What type of qualifications will we require? No baby until you post a fifty thousand dollar bond? How about, no baby until you finance a whole life insurance policy with riders for disability and college funding? That work?
And why not throw in some competency requirements. Like if you can't flippin cook, from scratch, no babies for you. Maybe require parenting classes for new parents, and home visits for those that are having another child.
And how do we enforce any requirements? Do we implement a new "baby police force"? If the future parents don't qualify, what do we do, force them to give the child up for adoption. To who?
I am pretty sure half of all children born in the United States are covered by Medicaid. And we are quickly approaching negative population growth. We would already be there without, wait for it, immigrants, both legal and illegal. I mean here is a thought, make it easier for poor families to support their children. The additional tax credit, that Republicans allowed to expire, did more to lower the child poverty rate than any action in history.
I mean instead of passing judgement on people why not adopt what other countries have adopted. A child allowance, the government actually strokes a check to the parents of children, usually paid quarterly and split between the mother and the father. And almost everyone qualifies, except for the very wealthy.
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Winston
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Actually, Project 2025 has some really good proposals to address that problem, like this one.
National or state guidelines and tax law should be updated to ensure that nonresident parents with child support orders can receive a non-dependent, child support tax credit. Single filers of up to $41,756 and married or joint filers of up to $47,646 would be eligible for a child support tax credit similar to the current earned income tax credit. Filers could receive a maximum of $538 in annual returns for one child and a maximum of $3,584 in annual returns for two or more children (based on a credit rate of 34 percent). A child support tax credit would use the low-income, nonresident parents’ own earned income and history of employment to assist them further in the task of caring for their children.The key to this policy is that it empowers fathers with their own resources and money rather than creating another government assistance program (or a fullyrefundable credit) devoid of the father’s own monetary efforts. This way, the nonresident father’s role as financial provider and relational figure is affirmed, and much-needed financial resources are given to the children.
To help you out, that is on page 479.
Winston
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Actually, the number one demographic for children living in poverty is a two adult household that is unmarried, at 37.5%. For single mothers it is 35%. For single fathers it is 17.4%.
Poverty status of children by family structure | Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
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IM2
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How about paying wages that people can live on? There is no reason CEOs and managers are paid 100 and 200 times what workers are paid. You can't manage anything if you don't have any workers. Poverty doesn't have a damn thing to do with having kids you can afford.
Winston
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Yes, the paying higher wages would help. What people don't realize is the EITC, food stamps, they benefit employers far more than employees. And you are also right, living in poverty doesn't have a damn thing to do with raising kids. It is far more important to have a stay at home parent than it is to be chasing the almighty dollar and pouring hundreds of dollars a month into substandard daycare.
No doubt that working class poverty needs some work.
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