How The COVID Relief Bill Turned Into A Climate Change Bill

The energy and climate provisions, supported by lawmakers from both parties, were hailed as the most significant climate change law in at least a decade.
"Republicans and Democrats are working together to protect the environment through innovation,” said Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.
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Can you prove the info is not correct? No, didn't think so...
 
Spent nuclear fuel is not toxic?

When did that happen?

I never said CO2 was toxic you did, so correct your self...
It is not a toxin Moonie

Definition of toxin

: a poisonous substance that is a specific product of the metabolic activities of a living organism and is usually very unstable, notably toxic when introduced into the tissues, and typically capable of inducing antibody formation

You seemed to be conflating CO2 with decaying nuclear material that you falsely labeled a 'toxin.' Just admit your Faux Pas cinch up your pants and move along.
 
Remember 'Solyndra'
I remember Solyndra. Republicans sabotaged it while China was throwing money at their solar startups, getting to mass solar manufacturing years ahead of the U.S.

And now we won't catch up. An entire industry GIVEN to China by Republicans.


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citing measures that promote technologies to “capture” and store carbon dioxide

The biggest waste of time, energy and money.

If you want to reduce CO2, build nuclear power plants.
And that will increase a toxin that is far more dangerous than capturing CO2..

Which toxin?

While you're at it, why haven't you taken China and India to task for polluting the World's atmosphere... America has been at the fore front of cleaning the air of pollutants for decades. Yet, we still see high ppms of mercury and carbon spewed from the Far East.
Why haven't you contacted your Chinese Commie friends and pleaded with them to stop the air pollution?
 
Remember 'Solyndra'
I remember Solyndra. Republicans sabotaged it while China was throwing money at their solar startups, getting to mass solar manufacturing years ahead of the U.S.

And now we won't catch up. An entire industry GIVEN to China by Republicans.


You are a moron...

Overhauling the entire electric grid, which some call the world’s largest machine, and converting much of it to wind and solar power, is not just a momentous task. It is both dangerous and unbelievably expensive. The only reason Biden has been able to get away with such a preposterous plan is that many people actually believe that wind and solar power are cheaper than fossil fuel-powered generation. They conclude that a transition to a system supplied by wind and solar power will reduce consumer costs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Instead of blindly accepting the Biden/Sanders energy fantasy, the public should ask the obvious question: “If wind and solar are so cheap, then why do they still need direct and indirect subsidies?”
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Other problems are the need for inertia (flywheel effect) that is required to stabilize the system frequency and for voltage support to stop the lights going dim. Both of these are provided by conventional generators but not by wind and solar power.

For various reasons, 1,000 kilowatts (kW) of wind or solar power seldom produces more than 800 kW.

On average, wind produces about one-third of its theoretical energy output (measured in kilowatt-hours – kWh) and solar power less than one-sixth.


As a result, much more installed capacity plus energy storage facilities are needed to match the output of a conventional 1,000 kW station. It is the cost of this extra capacity and energy storage that kills the economics of wind and solar power.

One way of establishing the real cost of wind and solar power is to compare the cost of supplying all the electricity needed by a system with no connections to other power systems. Let’s consider the cost of supplying all the electricity needed by a power system with a peak demand of 4,000 megawatts (MW) and an energy demand of 19,000 gigawatt-hours (GWh), which is typical of most power systems.


We start by assuming that five days of storage would be needed to cover a series of cloudy days in winter or five days of little wind. So, we need to calculate the costs associated with storage by batteries or by hydro-pumped storage (in which excess power is used to pump water into a reservoir which then drains through hydraulic turbines producing electricity when the primary system lacks sufficient power to supply the grid). One then discovers that the solar power option would need 16,000 MW of solar capacity + 9,000 MW of battery capacity and the all-in cost would be 38 US¢/kWh.


The wind power option would need 7,000 MW of wind and 2,250 MW of storage capacity to give a final cost of 34¢/kWh.


For comparison, the typical North American cost for combined-cycle natural gas generation is 5¢/kWh.


 
citing measures that promote technologies to “capture” and store carbon dioxide

The biggest waste of time, energy and money.

If you want to reduce CO2, build nuclear power plants.
And that will increase a toxin that is far more dangerous than capturing CO2..

Which toxin?

While you're at it, why haven't you taken China and India to task for polluting the World's atmosphere... America has been at the fore front of cleaning the air of pollutants for decades. Yet, we still see high ppms of mercury and carbon spewed from the Far East.
Why haven't you contacted your Chinese Commie friends and pleaded with them to stop the air pollution?

Me? LOL!
 
Spent nuclear fuel is not toxic?

Is it as big a global threat as CO2?

Carbon Dioxide enhances the growth of plants/Trees....that in turn creates more Oxygen.. Basic Earth Science....

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Another Pork Filled make believe Stimulus.
Yeah, what does tax deductions for 3-Martini lunches have to do with COVID-19?

Oh, you left that out of your little whiny rant?
What are you bitching about? Tax deductions for 3 Martini lunches? Where is that in the bill? Let me guess...hmmm.... it's not there.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks, you fuckin' lush.
 
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How The COVID Relief Bill Turned Into A Climate Change Bill

How the COVID relief bill turned into a climate change bill (hotair.com)
22 Dec 2020 ~~ By Jazz Shaw
So they did it. Working late into the night before scurrying out of town for Christmas, the House and Senate both managed to pass the gargantuan COVID relief bill. The President is expected to sign it. And when I say “gargantuan,” I’m not just talking about the massive pile of debt that the nation just accumulated. The final bill was roughly 5,000 pages long and it was festooned with a seemingly endless laundry list of items having absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic. I found myself in the unusual position of having to agree with Democratic New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who took to Twitter with a very justifiable complaint.

Chief among some of the massive bits of hot garbage that are completely unrelated to the pandemic were a raft of provisions dealing with climate change. Yes… I know. The Associated Press highlights some of these new laws that were never mentioned in public while the bill was being negotiated but were somehow crammed down everyone’s throats in the interest of looking like they were doing something about pandemic relief.
The energy and climate provisions, supported by lawmakers from both parties, were hailed as the most significant climate change law in at least a decade.​
“Republicans and Democrats are working together to protect the environment through innovation,” said Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.​
“This historic agreement includes three separate pieces of legislation that will significantly reduce greenhouse gases,″ Barrasso said, citing measures that promote technologies to “capture” and store carbon dioxide produced by power and manufacturing plants; reduce diesel emissions in buses and other vehicles; and authorize a 15-year reduction of hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, that are used in everything from cars to air conditioners. HFCs are considered a major driver of global warming and are being targeted worldwide.​
You’re going to see the phrases “promoting technologies” and “creating jobs” quite often in that portion of the bill. The technologies in question involve carbon capture, emission reduction and replacements for the hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) used as coolants in air conditioning and refrigeration systems, among other things.
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To be clear, there was a great deal more than just climate change jammed into this massive bill that almost nobody in Congress or the media had a chance to read before it was passed. Our colleague Beth Baumann from Townhall has already put together a collection of the other greatest hits (to your collective wallets) that wound up in the bill. They include money for invasive species mitigation, water management on the Tibetan Plateau, “gender programs” in Pakistan, and piles of money for India, Tibet, and other nations. Dig in at the link if you have the stomach for it.
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Instead, they wheeled out a bill that’s ten times longer than Moby Dick and one hundred times more tedious to read. Nearly a trillion dollars just went up in smoke in the name of “Battling The Pandemic And Saving Everyone’s Lives,” with a huge amount of that legislation doing nothing of the sort. Merry freaking Christmas, everyone. This is the swamp doing what the swamp always does.


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Another Pork Filled make believe Stimulus. If I were Trump I'd shelve it until after January 21, 2021.
This is the repeat of people that wrote the Obama Stimulus Bill. It will go no where to help the American people.
Republicans have caved again.
The 5,500 page 'Covid Relief Bill' has more Pork in it than the city of Smithfield. This is sure to be eclipsed in the upcoming first Biden/Xi term. The National Debt and trade deficits are the responsibility of the House — which only shows that Pelosi, like all Ptogressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies, is bad for the United States, since the “increased national debt” and “worst trade deficits” all happened on her watch. Again, a repeat of 2009.
Remember 'Solyndra', 'Shovel Ready Jobs', and 'Cash for Clunkers'....
I wonder what the propaganda mantras will be this time under Joey Xi?




It is unanimous: both major political parties are all in for the Great fucking Reset. Hi-ho, hi-ho it's off to Hell we go . . .
 
Remember 'Solyndra'
I remember Solyndra. Republicans sabotaged it while China was throwing money at their solar startups, getting to mass solar manufacturing years ahead of the U.S.

And now we won't catch up. An entire industry GIVEN to China by Republicans.


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Meanwhile the Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies in Congress led by Pelosi are sending aid to Maduro in Venezuela.....

 
Remember 'Solyndra'
I remember Solyndra. Republicans sabotaged it while China was throwing money at their solar startups, getting to mass solar manufacturing years ahead of the U.S.

And now we won't catch up. An entire industry GIVEN to China by Republicans.


You are a moron...

Overhauling the entire electric grid, which some call the world’s largest machine, and converting much of it to wind and solar power, is not just a momentous task. It is both dangerous and unbelievably expensive. The only reason Biden has been able to get away with such a preposterous plan is that many people actually believe that wind and solar power are cheaper than fossil fuel-powered generation. They conclude that a transition to a system supplied by wind and solar power will reduce consumer costs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Instead of blindly accepting the Biden/Sanders energy fantasy, the public should ask the obvious question: “If wind and solar are so cheap, then why do they still need direct and indirect subsidies?”
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Other problems are the need for inertia (flywheel effect) that is required to stabilize the system frequency and for voltage support to stop the lights going dim. Both of these are provided by conventional generators but not by wind and solar power.


For various reasons, 1,000 kilowatts (kW) of wind or solar power seldom produces more than 800 kW.

On average, wind produces about one-third of its theoretical energy output (measured in kilowatt-hours – kWh) and solar power less than one-sixth.


As a result, much more installed capacity plus energy storage facilities are needed to match the output of a conventional 1,000 kW station. It is the cost of this extra capacity and energy storage that kills the economics of wind and solar power.

One way of establishing the real cost of wind and solar power is to compare the cost of supplying all the electricity needed by a system with no connections to other power systems. Let’s consider the cost of supplying all the electricity needed by a power system with a peak demand of 4,000 megawatts (MW) and an energy demand of 19,000 gigawatt-hours (GWh), which is typical of most power systems.


We start by assuming that five days of storage would be needed to cover a series of cloudy days in winter or five days of little wind. So, we need to calculate the costs associated with storage by batteries or by hydro-pumped storage (in which excess power is used to pump water into a reservoir which then drains through hydraulic turbines producing electricity when the primary system lacks sufficient power to supply the grid). One then discovers that the solar power option would need 16,000 MW of solar capacity + 9,000 MW of battery capacity and the all-in cost would be 38 US¢/kWh.


The wind power option would need 7,000 MW of wind and 2,250 MW of storage capacity to give a final cost of 34¢/kWh.


For comparison, the typical North American cost for combined-cycle natural gas generation is 5¢/kWh.



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