How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures

[TruthOut10]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

 

[konradv]

They not only want apportion each vote by which candidate won the most votes in each particular Congressional district, but for the two extra votes they want to change the way it's done by states that already apportion their votes. In those states they're given to the candidate that won the statewide vote. According to the new Republican plan, they'd go to the candidate that won the most districts.

 

[Dot Com]

 

[mamooth]

Plan A "prevent Democrats from voting" didn't work, so they're shifting to Plan B "make it so Democratic votes don't matter."

Here's a thought. Instead of rigging the system, they could try to change their party's policies so that people want to vote for their party. What a concept.

 

[martybegan]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

Some states do the congressional district thing already. How is this "rigging" if states are allowed to determine the apportionment method of thier electoral votes?

The real interesting thing is this. In states with a large advantages to any one party, how would this affect turnout? Now those red staters in upstate new york will know thier vote counts, same as people in say Austin in texas, and Atlanta in Georgia. This to me would negate the percieved chance of this method resulting in a winner in electoral vote and a loser in popular vote.

 

[Staidhup]

Any perceived move to adjust and decentralize the power of large metropolitan area's will be met with resistance by the beneficiaries that depend upon their firm grasp and control. The fact that the surrounding communities have no voice insures their continued support and dominance which was not the framers of the constitutions intent, however, a fact of reality in todays political environment. One can only trust that states will recognize and approve adjustments to restore the power of the vote and restore the voice of all citizens.

 

[chikenwing]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

Some states do the congressional district thing already. How is this "rigging" if states are allowed to determine the apportionment method of thier electoral votes?

The real interesting thing is this. In states with a large advantages to any one party, how would this affect turnout? Now those red staters in upstate new york will know thier vote counts, same as people in say Austin in texas, and Atlanta in Georgia. This to me would negate the percieved chance of this method resulting in a winner in electoral vote and a loser in popular vote.

New york is a perfect example,the blubbering on the left is from the fact they might have to campaign in new york,and they don't want to do that,or let 90% of upstate votes to count.

Proportionally awarding elector votes is a good tweak and should be done,there are several that do already.
And they belly ack about fair elections.

 

[whitehall]

Thank you union based education system for the legacy of a generation of stupid kids who were raised on political cartoons and can't think for themselves without help from a cut and paste internet.

 

[PredFan]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

ThinkProgress? You can't expect anyone to take you seriously.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

ThinkProgress? You can't expect anyone to take you seriously.

Who remembers just recently the whine from the left that Popular vote should elect Presidents and the way to do it was to let Electoral votes fall to district winners? Now suddenly it is a bad idea?

 

[PredFan]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

ThinkProgress? You can't expect anyone to take you seriously.

Who remembers just recently the whine from the left that Popular vote should elect Presidents and the way to do it was to let Electoral votes fall to district winners? Now suddenly it is a bad idea?

Such is the way of the left wing loonies.

 

[whitehall]

Let me get this straight, how is it unfair that the tally of votes in congressional districts to determine electoral votes? It seems like it's the ultimate in fairness.

 

[midcan5]

Democracy does not appeal to the power hungry republicans, losing is the only thing that seems to motivate them. When they win they look lost and can't figure out which nation should be invaded next so as to keep the chickenhawks, chickenshits, and bomb builders happy.

"Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, and the Republican Party represent not just a disturbing, destructive social and political movement; they also pose a threat to the very ideas of democracy and democratic government. This can be seen (it’s not as if they work hard or consistently to hide it) in two distinct, if also ultimately related ways." Steven Johnston (Link below)

"The GOP dreams of a world in which the very rich arrogate to themselves the vast wealth a capitalist economy produces, an outcome made possible by rules, regulations, and practices they devise; given the force of law thanks to “representatives” they usher into office courtesy of a political system they have bought; and sanctified by an activist Supreme Court they have installed. It’s a vicious economic-political noose that threatens to tighten the grip on democracy and make it yield to the slightest pressure from its masters. Republicans must rule the country they profit from, even pillage, while the rest are to be marginalized and dismissed, essentially foreigners in their own land. Those who think Romney and the GOP live in the 1950s may need to reset their calendars. They’re not nearly so modern." Steven Johnston The Contemporary Condition: The Republican Imperium

The Contemporary Condition: The Church of Capitalism: Why Right-Wing Economics is Once Again not Rational

 

[Oddball]

Let me get this straight, how is it unfair that the tally of votes in congressional districts to determine electoral votes? It seems like it's the ultimate in fairness.

Strange how the socialist kooks shitting themselves over this one have no problem with states moving to award their electoral votes based upon the national popular vote, though.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Let me get this straight, how is it unfair that the tally of votes in congressional districts to determine electoral votes? It seems like it's the ultimate in fairness.

Strange how the socialist kooks shitting themselves over this one have no problem with states moving to award their electoral votes based upon the national popular vote, though.

Doesn't matter, The OP busted them with this thread so the "election rigging" will never happen.

 

[whitehall]

Let me get this straight, how is it unfair that the tally of votes in congressional districts to determine electoral votes? It seems like it's the ultimate in fairness.

Strange how the socialist kooks shitting themselves over this one have no problem with states moving to award their electoral votes based upon the national popular vote, though.

Doesn't matter, The OP busted them with this thread so the "election rigging" will never happen.

"Busted them"? The incredible power of the tax exempt Soros propaganda network to spin information is translated to "busting them"? Go for it lefties.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

How Republicans Plan To Rig The Next Presidential Election, In Six Pictures | ThinkProgress

I know one of you idiots would post this eventually.

Te;; me something, given that the Democrats held the House when Bush was president, and that, historically, the House is usually led my the opposition party, would it have been rigging the election if Democrats had done this?

 

[whitehall]

Thanks to the non-stop fawning reverence the main-stream media shows for the Hussein administration the left wingers think legal political agendas are unfair if they are sponsored by republican governors. Get used to it lefties, the rest of America ain't going down without a struggle.

 

[mamooth]

Look at all the Republicans making their excuses for their attempts at election-rigging. They're not even pretending they can win honestly any longer. And not a single one of 'em will dare buck the rest of their herd and say something as un-PC as "hey, that's just not right." They don't want to be cast out of the herd, so they auto-support any level of immorality.

How is this "rigging" if states are allowed to determine the apportionment method of thier electoral votes?

Because it's only being attempted in states where Republican minorities dominate the state government due to gerrymandering.

Tell me something, given that the Democrats held the House when Bush was president, and that, historically, the House is usually led my the opposition party, would it have been rigging the election if Democrats had done this?

Of course it would have been. And hence, the Democrats didn't do it. Imagine that.

The fact that the surrounding communities have no voice insures their continued support and dominance which was not the framers of the constitutions intent, however, a fact of reality in todays political environment. One can only trust that states will recognize and approve adjustments to restore the power of the vote and restore the voice of all citizens.

So now the official politically correct line of the Republican party is "If Republicans lose, it means Republicans have no voice and are thus the greatest victims of all time."

Someone always loses. It's disingenuous to proclaim that your own side "has no voice" when they lose, but then conveniently forget that the other side "has no voice" when they lose.

Of course, if your unspoken assumption is "votes from rural areas are worth more than votes from urban areas", it all makes sense. Not wanting to assume, I'll let you all explain why you think votes from rural areas should count more. Being a liberal, I think all votes should have equal weight, but that's just that democracy thing we liberals are into.

Who remembers just recently the whine from the left that Popular vote should elect Presidents and the way to do it was to let Electoral votes fall to district winners?

No one other than the delusional right, being it didn't happen. But by all means, if they're not making it up, Gunny and Predfan should point to these Democrats who said all electoral votes should all go by district.

Strange how the socialist kooks shitting themselves over this one have no problem with states moving to award their electoral votes based upon the national popular vote, though.

Anyone who is neither retard or liar -- which leaves out Oddball -- understands that the National Popular Vote Initiative is a completely different thing than rigging by district. The Democratic plan is designed so presidential elections are decided solely by total national popular vote, while the Republican plan is specifically designed to allow a minority to override the total popular vote through gerrymandering.

Let me get this straight, how is it unfair that the tally of votes in congressional districts to determine electoral votes? It seems like it's the ultimate in fairness.

Again, because it is only being proposed in states where a Republican minority controls the state government via gerrymandering. When you start demanding that all states implement it, and that all states engage in an honest redistricting first, then I'll believe you care about fairness. If you're unwilling to do that, it's clear you're pushing crap in order to justify a nakedly partisan anti-democracy power grab.

Are there any Republicans here willing to demand all states be required do this, and that all states engage a fair redistricting first? Bueller? Bueller? Yeah, thought so.

 

[konradv]

Let me get this straight, how is it unfair that the tally of votes in congressional districts to determine electoral votes? It seems like it's the ultimate in fairness.

Except that by their plan the statewide vote wouldn't matter, either. Instead of the federal system we have, we'd be moving towards more of a parliamentary system, whereby the party with the most representitives automatically gets the chief executive position. For a party that continually rails against undermining the spirit of the Constitution, this proposal does just that in spades.