how quickly do proteins evolve ?

Sigh. Well, it looks like the peanut gallery here needs an introductory course in epigenetics.

Let's start with "traits that are transmitted without DNA".

Then we move on to DNA methylation.

From there, we go to histone methylation.

Which falls into the general category of "post translational modification".

Here's how it works

A histone is a protein that binds to the DNA and determines how much of a gene is expressed.

Mutations in histones therefore alter genetic expression.

Without changing the DNA sequence.

Histones also help methylate the DNA, which is another thing that doesn't change the sequence.

Histones that happen to be present in gametes and germ cells can therefore affect development, altering both the number and sequence of proteins that are being transcribed. All without changing the DNA.

However if they happen to bind to DNA repair sequences, they CAN change the DNA - which isn't a mutation, it happens "after" a mutation.

One of the interesting cases is a histone that binds to the gene that codes for itself.

Another interesting case is a histone that turns off other histones.

Histones are involved in things like immune memory. And possibly synaptic memory too. There is cytosolic histone outside of the nucleus, and it's released in vesicles (exosomes, which may contain neurotransmitter).

The bottom line is DNA doesn't exist in isolation. It's always associated with proteins. So is RNA, and that's especially important in neurons, where RNP's travel into the synapses (like at dendritic spines, where they regulate AMPA receptors).




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Lots of people have different opinions than me.

That's okay. As long as they're not being fraudulent I have no issue with it.

I'm very good at providing counterexamples though.

When it comes to fossils, I don't claim to know anything. But I do know a bit about lizard biology, because I used to study lizard brains. They're generally pretty stupid creatures but they can move very, very fast. They're lazy, but when they get hungry they can outrun a fly. A lizard tongue can snatch a fly in mid air. That's pretty impressive, most humans can't even do that. :p
oh dear god are you still droning on??



yes I believe you understand stupid lizard brains,,
 
Proteins evolve faster than DNA.

DNA has repair mechanisms.

Proteins only have chaperones.

What the hell is a "chaperon" ... do you mean enzyme? ... that's the key to evolution, the abundance of catalysts ...

I'm not clear about your claim that proteins evolve faster than DNA ... the DNA code is what makes proteins ... how can a protein even be made without DNA ... do you remember high school health class? ...

DNA --> mRNA --> ribosome + tRNA --> protein ...

For there to be a change in the protein, there must be a change in the DNA ... but the BIGGEST MISTAKE is that to be part of evolution, it must be inheritable ... the change in protein has to be encoded on the haploid DNA from one or both parents ... so proteins don't evolve by themselves, but only from a change in the DNA ...


"Almost all metabolic processes in the cell need enzyme catalysis in order to occur at rates fast enough to sustain life."
 
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Weather is deterministic?

Really?
I'm surprised we disagree on this. Yes weather is governed by laws just as is any physical process. Chaos is not random, it is unpredictable solely because of the sensitivity to initial conditions, but surely you know this, I can't imagine you'd disagree?
 
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There's nothing deterministic about chaos. That's why it's called chaos.

I hope this doesn't upset you then:

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Q.E.D.

Would you like some book recommendations?
 
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I'm surprised we disagree on this. Yes weather is governed by laws just as is any physical process. Chaos is not random, it is unpredictable solely because of the sensitivity to initial conditions, but surely you know this, I can't imagine you'd disagree?

Weather is not chaotic ... although it can be edifying to treat it as such ... weather very strictly follows the exacting laws of nature in every way ... in a 5 mph wind field, whatever weather is happening 60 miles upstream is your 12 hour forecast ... a phone call is over 90% accurate ... cause-and-effect ...it's fairly easy to see this cause-and-effect after the fact ... but that's useless in forecasting so it doesn't get much publicity ...
 
Weather is not chaotic ... although it can be edifying to treat it as such ... weather very strictly follows the exacting laws of nature in every way ... in a 5 mph wind field, whatever weather is happening 60 miles upstream is your 12 hour forecast ... a phone call is over 90% accurate ... cause-and-effect ...it's fairly easy to see this cause-and-effect after the fact ... but that's useless in forecasting so it doesn't get much publicity ...

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You're right. I wouldn't. It's an inaccurate way of describing life. And no amount of arm waving or clever talk will change that reality.
That's what they said about Einstein too. :p

It's more like, no amount of truth will change your erroneous preconceptions.

You're like, don't bother me with the facts, I've made up my mind.
 

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