Zone1 how old is christianity?

[Carl in Michigan]

Clearly in the modern era we can see floods for what they are. Imagine you lived in a place and everything you could see was flooded, you might imagine the whole world has flooded

You don't build an ark, and the animals don't willingly come to board an ark for a REGIONAL flood

Name another REGIONAL FLOOD where the people "thought it was the entire world"

 

[Cougarbear]

Depends what you mean by "Christianity", doesn't it? Christianity essential "stole" lots of things from religions before it. A nativity scene that existed 3,000 years before the supposed nativity scene actually happened? That means the nativity scene didn't happen when the Bible said it did, and probably not at all.

They stole nothing. It was a continuation of the work the Godhead has with not only Israel, but of all people. After all, if it was stolen from Jews, wouldn't Jews want it back and claim Christ as their Messiah?

 

[Blues Man]

not a chance ... those who died with jesus in the 1st century, their true beliefs -

what have you of that date for jesus, one must understand the true beginning for that answer there will never be a heavenly messiah that is their true contribution they died for -

for christianity that began late 4th century, the christian bible written by the crucifiers included in their book the false heavenly personifications of judaism.

33 CE (AD) was the 33rd year of the first century

 

[BreezeWood]

33 CE (AD) was the 33rd year of the first century

- and that date has what to do w/ 4th century - christianity ... the state religion of the roman empire.

 

[Blues Man]

- and that date has what to do w/ 4th century - christianity ... the state religion of the roman empire.

Christianity did not start with the Roman Catholic Church.

The RCC is just a self appointed authority

 

[BreezeWood]

Christianity did not start with the Roman Catholic Church.

The RCC is just a self appointed authority

christianity began when the 4th century christian bible was completed ...

Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.

there is nothing from jesus implying they were either jewish or claimed to be the jewish messiah among other anomalies, trinity that were made into the christian religion during the 4th century.

very little of the 1st century events, the repudiation of judaism, liberation theology and self determination as taught by jesus for their religion same as granted a&e for their journey for admission to the everlasting - is found in the book written by the crucifiers.

prove otherwise or retract your slanderous statements.

 

[Blues Man]

christianity began when the 4th century christian bible was completed ...



there is nothing from jesus implying they were either jewish or claimed to be the jewish messiah among other anomalies, trinity that were made into the christian religion during the 4th century.

very little of the 1st century events, the repudiation of judaism, liberation theology and self determination as taught by jesus for their religion same as granted a&e for their journey for admission to the everlasting - is found in the book written by the crucifiers.

prove otherwise or retract your slanderous statements.

Christianity began when people recognized Jesus Christ as a god incarnate.

The RCC did not invent Christianity

 

[marvin martian]

Or it could simply be that humans are emotional, and they want to believe they have some kind of control over the world, so they make gods, they make stories for those gods, and then they draw the pictures, tell the stories.

When Christianity came along, they couldn't go "here's something totally new", they just adapted what already existed, to make adaption easier.

The flood story of Noah isn't just in the Bible.

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Flood myths are common across a wide range of cultures, extending back into Bronze Age and Neolithic prehistory. These accounts depict a flood, sometimes global in scale, usually sent by a deity or deities to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution."

Clearly in the modern era we can see floods for what they are. Imagine you lived in a place and everything you could see was flooded, you might imagine the whole world has flooded.

Monotheism existed a long time before Christianity, coming from Egypt and was born and died and born again, and passed through Greece to Rome and onwards to the rest of Europe.

Many of the stories existed before.

^^^LOL! The guy who swears we can change the climate by paying higher taxes is skeptical of people who "want to believe they have some kind of control over the world"

Irony gold!

 

[BreezeWood]

Christianity began when people recognized Jesus Christ as a god incarnate.

The RCC did not invent Christianity

there is nothing from jesus implying they were either jewish or claimed to be the jewish messiah among other anomalies, trinity that were made into the christian religion during the 4th century.

- that was in the 4th century when the crucifiers were able to write their book.

are you obsessed w/ the rcc - your alone because those that know better than that subject have long ago chosen different paths, give it a shot - might improve your understanding of the desert religions.

 

[frigidweirdo]

^^^LOL! The guy who swears we can change the climate by paying higher taxes is skeptical of people who "want to believe they have some kind of control over the world"

Irony gold!

I swear that, do I? Go on then, go find where I said that, or even where I even got close to anything similar.

Oh, wait, you're one of those "Reps think this, Dems think that", black and white.

Pointless. Don't even bother replying, it's not worth the hassle of me even reading it.

 

[Blues Man]

- that was in the 4th century when the crucifiers were able to write their book.

are you obsessed w/ the rcc - your alone because those that know better than that subject have long ago chosen different paths, give it a shot - might improve your understanding of the desert religions.

Nope.

JC had followers long before the bible was assembled by the RCC. Christianity existed before the bible was codified

 

[luiza]

Nope.

JC had followers long before the bible was assembled by the RCC. Christianity existed before the bible was codified

Apart from the merry band , the number of so called Christians was still small at the end of the first century AD .
Mark was not written until around AD 60 with the strange so called gospel of John , the last of the Synoptics , at the back end of the century .
Constantine finally regarded the emerging Cult Religion as a threat and he organised the Council of Nicea , 325 AD.
The purpose of that was to ensure that the the over riding strength and supremacy of the State was maintained and that the new story was trimmed and manipulated to produce an acceptable so called official narrative that in no way threatrened Constantine's authority .
He and the selected Bishops simply cast out all sources which did not follow the "party line" and they were then called heresies .
Censorship and Fake News happened, using the methods of that particular time .

It can be sensibly argued that Christianity became obviously Fake from the moment Joseph bought the body of the critically injured Jesus from Pontius with his recovery then being creatively turned into the Resurrection " False Flag " --- brilliant PR .

 

[DudleySmith]

Depends what you mean by "Christianity", doesn't it? Christianity essential "stole" lots of things from religions before it. A nativity scene that existed 3,000 years before the supposed nativity scene actually happened? That means the nativity scene didn't happen when the Bible said it did, and probably not at all.

lol rubbish. All the idiot nonsense claiming the OT and NT are stolen from earlier cultures is just pseudo-intellectual rubbish.

In any case, Christianity is several decades older than rabbinical Judaism, and hundreds of years older than most of the modern Jewish cults. The Hebrewism of Moses began to be wiped out under the Babylonian Return and Ezra's racist cult took over with the power of Cyrus behind them. All other Jews were declared ' unclean' and tainted. Christianity was a reform movement based a lot more on the written Torah of Moses, not some fraudulent 'Oral Torah' fabricated by Babylonians and their followers.

 

[DudleySmith]

Apart from the merry band , the number of so called Christians was still small at the end of the first century AD .
Mark was not written until around AD 60 with the strange so called gospel of John , the last of the Synoptics , at the back end of the century .
Constantine finally regarded the emerging Cult Religion as a threat and he organised the Council of Nicea , 325 AD.
The purpose of that was to ensure that the the over riding strength and supremacy of the State was maintained and that the new story was trimmed and manipulated to produce an acceptable so called official narrative that in no way threatrened Constantine's authority .
He and the selected Bishops simply cast out all sources which did not follow the "party line" and they were then called heresies .
Censorship and Fake News happened, using the methods of that particular time .

It can be sensibly argued that Christianity became obviously Fake from the moment Joseph bought the body of the critically injured Jesus from Pontius with his recovery then being creatively turned into the Resurrection " False Flag " --- brilliant PR .

lol pure idiocy.

 

[Pastelli]

RACIST MOTIVATED POSTING,

PRO CHILD-KILLER JIHADIS ,

THE FRAUD - 'luiza'

 

[Blues Man]

lol rubbish. All the idiot nonsense claiming the OT and NT are stolen from earlier cultures is just pseudo-intellectual rubbish.

In any case, Christianity is several decades older than rabbinical Judaism, and hundreds of years older than most of the modern Jewish cults. The Hebrewism of Moses began to be wiped out under the Babylonian Return and Ezra's racist cult took over with the power of Cyrus behind them. All other Jews were declared ' unclean' and tainted. Christianity was a reform movement based a lot more on the written Torah of Moses, not some fraudulent 'Oral Torah' fabricated by Babylonians and their followers.

Religion evolved as societies evolved. There are many similarities to older religions in the Abrahamic religions.
Monotheism was practiced by the Egyptians,
Virgin birth was nothing new either. Romulus and Remus were said to be born of the virgin Rhea Silvia, Dionysus of Greek mythology, Horus of Egyptian mythology.

 

[DudleySmith]

Religion evolved as societies evolved. There are many similarities to older religions in the Abrahamic religions.
Monotheism was practiced by the Egyptians,
Virgin birth was nothing new either. Romulus and Remus were said to be born of the virgin Rhea Silvia, Dionysus of Greek mythology, Horus of Egyptian mythology.

Those aren't 'similarities'. They don't resemble the OT's books in any significant way. We see lots of claims they do, but never any real proof, just conflations and weird attempts to claim they're similar. Even the Mayans had their 'Flood' myths, but somehow nobody claims they got theirs from Ur, or the Chinese or anybody else. Flood stories would be prevalent among any region where fossils exist and get noticed, for instance, and Mountains in the ME, Himalayas, and all over the planet have marine fossils at pretty high elevations, so yeah, these myths are perfectly likely to originate separately anywhere.

We know a lot of pagan Greek myths were altered in ancient times to compete with the rise of Christianity's popularity as well, to be 'similar', and this would be true of cultures who imitated the Hebrews' theology as well.

 

[norwegen]

The Old Testament is specific to a particular people, i.e., the Israelites. Whatever elements to their autobiography that atheists and liberals wish to regard as stolen are at best only borrowed, or just resemble, other legends, and those elements are few, the flood legend being a possible candidate. No amount of borrowing or resembling takes away from the general history, exploits, or beliefs of these tribal people.

Even more specific to these people than their centuries-long autobiography is their decades-long eschaton, or the New Testament, which relates to a specific event, i.e., their destruction. They could sense that Day of their Lord drawing near (Heb 10:25). They even anticipated that day coming in the manner as prophesied, that it would rear its head in a consuming fire (Heb 10:27; 2 Pt 3:11-12).

This theme dominates the New Testament. It's all over the Epistles and is the sole subject of the Olivet Discourse. Only the Israelites could have told this story, and only the Israelites have knowingly left their legacy to another people, i.e., the pagan Christians.

To think that the history and destruction of a temple and its people are stolen is just ludicrous.

 

[BreezeWood]

Nope.

JC had followers long before the bible was assembled by the RCC. Christianity existed before the bible was codified

your as dense as they come ...

they gave their lives for liberation theology, self determination w/ jesus the original religion of antiquity - they were not christians for the simple reason jesus never claimed to be the jewish messiah. an absurd allegation - bm.

jesus and his followers, the events of the 1st century is the repudiation of judaism and its false personifications made by those they worship - moses and their false claims of etched tablets w/ 10 commandments from the heavens and the others without verification's.

 

[BreezeWood]

To think that the history and destruction of a temple and its people are stolen is just ludicrous.

just as ludicrous are the false heavenly personifications judaism uses for their predominance and those they chose to worship than the reality of their being a true and simple means for spiritual freedom instructed in the 1st century as purity from sin - the desert completely disregards for their own self interests.