How many times has humanity been wiped down to near extinction?

[CrusaderFrank]

No, it is not. You're assuming only Man has intelligence and the ability to create technology.

Man came into existence 6,000 years ago. Other humanoids never had the abilities modern man has

Modern man has been on Earth for at least 200,000 years

We shared the place with Neanderthals and giants

 

[Skylar]

I like it!

Slaves hoisting a 70 ton granite block on a ramp — that can support the 70 ton block. That’s quite the wooden ramp

Dragging. Not 'hoisting'. You keep trying to put the stone blocks in the air. And its completely unnecessary. Just drag them. And who said a thing about wood? They would have made it out of earth.

They had literally thousands of men available. With almost all of the blocks about 2.5 tons. And almost all of the pyramid made of limestone. Like about 99% of it.

A 70 ton block of granite would have been a huge pain in the ass. Thankfully, that was a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the pyramids. And totally within their capability to drag using the simple machine known as the ramp.

No "Alien Levatation Beams" required. Your explantion is not only absurdly complicated. Its completely unnecessary.

Actually how long do you suppose that ramp would have to be?

For that big piece of granite? Hundreds and hundreds of feet in all likelihood, pulled by hundreds of men. And the Egyptians have both.

Thankfully, the pyramids had almost no 70 tons blocks of granite. The standard stone for the pyramid was 2.5 ton block of limestone.

All of which you already know. Which makes your "Alien Levitation beams built the pyramids" nonsense all the more absurd. You know better.

Maybe they disassembled the part of the ramp the stone passed, then construct the newer portion of the ramp?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Modern man has been on Earth for at least 200,000 years

We shared the place with Neanderthals and giants

They weren't "Man.". They were proto human. And "we" did not originate in Africa, but Mesopotamia.

Did you ever wonder why "Man" has built rocket ships that have traveled the solar system, but other protohumans never mastered the wheel, and barely fire -- and they probably borrowed that from us.

 

[Skylar]

They weren't "Man.". They were proto human. And "we" did not originate in Africa, but Mesopotamia.

Says who?

Did you ever wonder why "Man" has built rocket ships that have traveled the solar system, but other protohumans never mastered the wheel, and barely fire -- and they probably borrowed that from us.

Again, says who?

 

[Skylar]

"Dragging. Not 'hoisting'. You keep trying to put the stone blocks in the air. And its completely unnecessary. Just drag them. And who said a thing about wood? They would have made it out of earth."

Correction, these would have been made out of stone. The granite pieces were toward the center of the pyramid. The Egyptians would have easily been able to build ramps out of the limestone blocks and smaller pieces of rock and earth, using the structure of the pyramid itself to create the ramps.

The inclined plane is a hell of a simple machine. No aliens required.

 

[Skylar]

Oh, and quick calculations using an incline plane calculator. A ramp with a 15 degree slope up an 370 yard long ramp to a height of about 300 feet would have required 70,000 newtons of force to pull a 70 ton block up with a friction co-effecient of about .15 (the average ramp).

Each face of the pyramids were about 250 yards. So the ramp would been the length of 1 full face, plus about half that again in total length.
A strong fella can exert about 350 newtons. So it would taken a take about 200 guys and most of an afternoon.

They almost certainly would have built in landings periodically so the guys could rest, or they could swap them out for fresh teams of strong men. So a 10' landing every 60 feet would add another 180 feet or so to the total ramp length.

Absolutely within the capacity of the Egyptians to build. And it could have easily wound around the the pyramids, or been built into the limestone blocks of the pyramids as it was being constructed, slowly spiralling upward.

Almost all the blocks were in the 2.5 ton range, or about 8 strong men to pull up the same incline plane. More realistically, the plane for most of the blocks would have been shorter than a single face of the pyramids. So if we increased the plane to 30 degrees, the ramp drops to 200 yards and the newtons required would have been about 8,200. Or about 25 strong guys pulling together.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

"Dragging. Not 'hoisting'. You keep trying to put the stone blocks in the air. And its completely unnecessary. Just drag them. And who said a thing about wood? They would have made it out of earth."

Correction, these would have been made out of stone. The granite pieces were toward the center of the pyramid. The Egyptians would have easily been able to build ramps out of the limestone blocks and smaller pieces of rock and earth, using the structure of the pyramid itself to create the ramps.

The inclined plane is a hell of a simple machine. No aliens required.

Still you cannot roll many tons of stones using any type of ramp. So yes, levitation via sound.

 

[Skylar]

Still you cannot roll many tons of stones using any type of ramp. So yes, levitation via sound.

Says who?

Imaginary Egyptian Levitation beams must be true because YOU said you can't drag weight up an inclined plane?

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Says who?

Imaginary Egyptian Levitation beams must be true because YOU said you can't drag weight up an inclined plane?

The aliens helped us block by block.

 

[Skylar]

The aliens helped us block by block.

Says who? Again, you're citing yourself as a primary source on topics you know nothing about. Why can't you drag weight up an incline plane? What 'aliens' and what 'levitation' beams?

You imagine by the cause and the effect without evidence. And ignore simple machines that have been in use for thousands of years.

Um.....there's nothing scientific about that.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Says who? Again, you're citing yourself as a primary source on topics you know nothing about. Why can't you drag weight up an incline plane? What 'aliens' and what 'levitation' beams?

You imagine by the cause and the effect without evidence. And ignore simple machines that have been in use for thousands of years.

Um.....there's nothing scientific about that.

I subscribe to the ancient astronaut theory.

 

[Skylar]

I subscribe to the ancient astronaut theory.

Of course you do. But the ancient astronaut theory doesn't actually have concrete evidence to back it. Its a story.

Meanwhile, inclined planes aren't a story. They're used every day. They absolutely work in allowing people to move heavy weights vertically. And have for thousands and thousands of years.

Your 'ancient alien levitation beam' theory is not only pristinely fact free.....its also completely unnecessary. As the Egyptian people had all the tools they needed to build the the pyramids. Albeit with a lot of elbow grease.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Of course you do. But the ancient astronaut theory doesn't actually have concrete evidence to back it. Its a story.

Meanwhile, inclined planes aren't a story. They're used every day. They absolutely work in allowing people to move heavy weights vertically. And have for thousands and thousands of years.

Your 'ancient alien levitation beam' theory is not only pristinely fact free.....its also completely unnecessary. As the Egyptian people had all the tools they needed to build the the pyramids. Albeit with a lot of elbow grease.

Could several hundred men pull a block weighing tons, no.

 

[Skylar]

Could several hundred men pull a block weighing tons, no.

Says who? Again, you watching Ancient Aliens doesn't make you an expert on physics or simple machines. It means you have a subscription to the History Channel.

And an inclined plane force multiplies the effort of people pushing or pulling by spreading the energy required over a larger surface or longer periods of time. Its why levers work, why screw drivers work, why ramps work.

Why would an incline plane suddenly stop working in Egypt? Your 'aliens' are simply unnecessary.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Says who? Again, you watching Ancient Aliens doesn't make you an expert on physics or simple machines. It means you have a subscription to the History Channel.

And an inclined plane force multiplies the effort of people pushing or pulling by spreading the energy required over a larger surface or longer periods of time. Its why levers work, why screw drivers work, why ramps work.

Why would an incline plane suddenly stop working in Egypt? Your 'aliens' are simply unnecessary.

Like I said, it is totally possible for ET to do the stonework.

 

[Skylar]

Like I said, it is totally possible for ET to do the stonework.

Its totally possible for people to do stonework. Your aliens are not only concrete evidence free (as is their levitation beams)......but they aren't needed. People can do stonework. People can use incline planes.

When you hear hoof beats, think horses. Not zebras.

 

[Sparker]

Civilizations tend to die out for the same few reasons: they overpopulate and use their resources faster than they replenish. The core values and philosophy that started the civilizations stop working for what their world has become at the end. Sometimes a catastrophic event may knock them out much faster, like the end of the ice age drowning a coastal civilization. Evidence of many prior civilizations may be buried under the sea and sediment.

Dark age people living on land damaged by reckless farming practices and other environmental destruction may see the architecture of their dead civilization as monuments to evil.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, this is awkward!

The famous stone heads on tiny Easter Island are only the part still above ground

Were these carved and buried like Gobekli Tepi?

Pretty impressive engineering on a tiny Island with no evidence of engineering

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Popular Myth Debunked: New Findings Rewrite Easter Island’s History

Easter Is, part 2

Nevermind time to build and bury these massive statues, scientists discovered what little population was ever on the Island ( in post Flood history) struggled for survival

 

[Skylar]

Modern man has been on Earth for at least 200,000 years

We shared the place with Neanderthals and giants

What giants?