how many people died in iraq cauze of bush war

[Gunny]

belive me you are the puss gunnly if i am a puss i wouldnt be in that fourm

Snappy comeback.

beside nobody asked you to come and visit that "sandbox" and belive it or not i find it really boring its not a big deal i dont see what is in it
but some people like they love this ancient egyptians history i dont even like it but i have to respected we have a 3000 years history
jesus came here most of the messengers came here in that land so its a great land hate it or love it ...

You're right.... I wasn't asked, and if y'all could police your own damned yard, I could've missed having to take out your trash.

"why are always such a puss? " your forgot the "u" so it would make sense

Come up with your own lines, and I find it absolutely ridiculous that someone with as little command of English as you feels the need to correct my type-o's.

If you'd learn to read instead of running your damned suck, you might notice that the word is correctly spelled.

 

[just_sad]

That statement exhibts your limited prespective on historical events.

noooooooooooo
so if i am wrong you better correct me

 

[just_sad]

Come up with your own lines, and I find it absolutely ridiculous that someone with as little command of English as you feels the need to correct my type-o's.

If you'd learn to read instead of running your damned suck, you might notice that the word is correctly spelled.

yeah i dont need to have a perfect english or even a good english

whats your second langauge ? !

 

[MtnBiker]

noooooooooooo
so if i am wrong you better correct me

You made a generalization that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki where a direct result of the Pearl Harbor attack. That is not true.

 

[glockmail]

[1]at first people dont hate "jesus" or what you call jesus we have like 10 million christen in our country Egypt i mean
and we live in peace since ever so if what you say is right we would be bombing our christen people but we really love eachother and we live in peace with them since ever and i have to tell you why people hates america at least here because they alawys support israel with weapons that israel use in killing palastine like everyday with american weapons you will probably say that palastines are terrorist palastines dont even have weapons all they have are some stones in the ground they fight with it back
do you have any idea how many child had been killed in palastine ? ?

like the other day a israelin missle attack killed 4 people and a little girl
and that happens almost everyday since ever with all the american support
for some reason i dont know
....


2-maybe you are right but you already used it befor and u were Stable democracies but you used against verey normal people not milatry or anything
and u killed like 200,000 ... they attacked peirl harbor something like that
and u attacked to major citiest with nuclear bombs so that doesnt look crazy to you?

3-thats wasnt legitimate questions i have never heard of that ever in islam
and its not right so i dont need to do researchs for that because it just non-sense
like i come and say for example (which is not true)
christen loves to eat their blood
and they do porn movies for money ... or whatever i mean just any non-sense

so you dont come and make up some things about islam and ask me to prove that its wrong
that would be something outrages dont need a prove to tell that its wrong

peace

1. By your answer it appears that you hate the Jews. Israel was created by the Allies after WW2. Get over it- it ain’t going away. The Arabs attacked it the day after it was created, and have been at war with it ever since, claiming it is an affront to the Arab world, basically admitting their anti-Semitism. We give them weapons so they can defend themselves against a much larger force that would kill each and every Jew if they only could. So ask yourself, since Israel and its allies have the power to kill each and every Arab in the middle east, then how come we have not done so?
2. At least you admit that only stable democracies should have nuclear technology. What happened in Japan during WW2 was unfortunate, but if you analyze the alternative- attacking the Japanese mainland with conventional weapons and ground forces- you would quickly come to the conclusion that several MILLION people would have died. This was because of the type of training of the Japanese soldier: fight until death.
3. My earlier questions were legitimate as I provided links and backup. I have therefore proven that I am correct and it is now up to you to prove otherwise, or lose credibility.

 

[1549]

Why are you lying to this guy? Most Americans stick to their own kind and don't have a damned thing to do with foreign tourists. The ones that do are making money off of them.

But at least he doesn't have to worry about getting killed by a car bomb.

I have to wonder just WHAT world your dumb ass lives in.

I have lived in Illinois (15 miles from Chicago) and New Jersey (25 miles from NYC). Both places are very receptive of people who have moved here from other countries and people visiting from other countries.

So I ask, where in Texas are you from? Where in Texas have you been able to attain any sort of bearing on national sentiment towards foreign tourists? I did not know tourists come in droves to see the ruins of Enron's crumbled empire in Houston.

Don't think I have anything against Texas. My cousin lived in Houston and said the Tex-Mex food (I am a big fan of burritos) in the area is amazing. I also would like to visit San Antonio.

With that said, your opinions lead me to believe you are the one who is insulated (I know you love to throw that word on me).

 

[glockmail]

lol !
thats wrong it says that you should be ready with weapons and powerful enough so when some people attack you
you could fight back

and hey glockmail befor you spread lies did you ever read the quran so you could say what is in it ?

(referecing: Originally Posted by glockmail
There is a passage in the Koran that instructs them to peacefully and patiently build their population and weapons until they get powerful enogh to make war.)

Koran4 Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

This could not be more clear.

 

[just_sad]

(referecing: Originally Posted by glockmail
There is a passage in the Koran that instructs them to peacefully and patiently build their population and weapons until they get powerful enogh to make war.)



This could not be more clear.

did u made that koran up or something ? ! becuase thats not even in koran but if u think its in koran then ok..

 

[just_sad]

1. By your answer it appears that you hate the Jews.2. Israel was created by the Allies after WWGet over it- it ain’t going away. The Arabs attacked it the day after it was created, and have been at war with it ever since, claiming it is an affront to the Arab world, basically admitting their anti-Semitism. We give them weapons so they can defend themselves against a much larger force that would kill each and every Jew if they only could. So ask yourself, since Israel and its allies have the power to kill each and every Arab in the middle east, then how come we have not done so?
2. At least you admit that only stable democracies should have nuclear technology. What happened in Japan during WW2 was unfortunate, but if you analyze the alternative- attacking the Japanese mainland with conventional weapons and ground forces- you would quickly come to the conclusion that several MILLION people would have died. This was because of the type of training of the Japanese soldier: fight until death.
3. My earlier questions were legitimate as I provided links and backup. I have therefore proven that I am correct and it is now up to you to prove otherwise, or lose credibility.

Israel was created by the Allies after WWGet over it- it ain’t going away.
so here you admit it that israel was made up on arab lands

what you dont know they killed all thoes people who was on that land or make them go away like kicked them out from their place so they could establish* israel and hey i dont hate jews but i hate israelians who kill palastines people and kids and women and kick them out of their home everyday but jews are cool ....


why you didnt creat the country of israel in usa ? or next to it ?
if you love them so much



"My earlier questions were legitimate as I provided links and backup. I have therefore proven that I am correct and it is now up to you to prove otherwise, or lose credibility.[/QUOTE]"
you know i told u for million times you could ask experts for that because its something with relgion i told you all your allegations are false
but i cant prove to you how because i am not going to read like 100 pages
and search for answers for everyone of them . so i dont really care
if you wanna belive that belive it ...


and why alawys suspecting islam and saying all this false things by this

"christen answering islam" sites


there are only one book of quran
and there are like 100000000000000000 diffrent bible

i am not going to post here again becuase its became boring and we could argue for million years so it just going nowhere...:blah2: :blah2: :blah2:
peace

 

[CSM]

Israel was created by the Allies after WWGet over it- it ain’t going away.
so here you admit it that israel was made up on arab lands

what you dont know they killed all thoes people who was on that land or make them go away like kicked them out from their place so they could establish* israel and hey i dont hate jews but i hate israelians who kill palastines people and kids and women and kick them out of their home everyday but jews are cool ....


why you didnt creat the country of israel in usa ? or next to it ?
if you love them so much



"My earlier questions were legitimate as I provided links and backup. I have therefore proven that I am correct and it is now up to you to prove otherwise, or lose credibility.

"
you know i told u for million times you could ask experts for that because its something with relgion i told you all your allegations are false
but i cant prove to you how because i am not going to read like 100 pages
and search for answers for everyone of them . so i dont really care
if you wanna belive that belive it ...


and why alawys suspecting islam and saying all this false things by this

"christen answering islam" sites


there are only one book of quran
and there are like 100000000000000000 diffrent bible

i am not going to post here again becuase its became boring and we could argue for million years so it just going nowhere...:blah2: :blah2: :blah2:
peace[/QUOTE]


Okies...thanks for validating what I always suspected about Muslims...even the "non-radical" ones!

 

[glockmail]

did u made that koran up or something ? ! becuase thats not even in koran but if u think its in koran then ok..

No, I didn't I made up the Koran.

Here's another translation- same thing:

Surah 9. Repentance, Dispensation

4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);...

http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/QURAN/9.htm

 

[glockmail]

....[1]so here you admit it that israel was made up on arab lands ....

[2] ....i told you all your allegations are false
but i cant prove to you how because i am not going to read like 100 pages
and search for answers for everyone of them . so i dont really care
if you wanna belive that belive it ... ....

1. Jerusalem was settled several thousand years ago- by Jews. Time to get over the fact that Arabs took it over then lost it. It makes up about 1% of the land mass of the Middle East but y'all hate the Jews so much you can't help but fight over it. It's amazingly stupid.

2. So you admit that you are too lazy to defend your religion, but you'll spend countless hours on a message board telling us all how great it is. You are just making a pitiful excuse, as you know that my accusations against Islam cannot be denied.

 

[Jennifer.Bush]

Welcome to the board - Did you notice that it's arabs who are bombing civilicans and shooting the country to hell? It's not Bush. It's Islamic Radicals.



Best Regards,

Darin

co-sign


@ people claiming 600,000 have died please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Annie]

Welcome to the board - Did you notice that it's arabs who are bombing civilicans and shooting the country to hell? It's not Bush. It's Islamic Radicals.



Best Regards,

Darin

Our resident troll has edited his post on #1, while tempted to return it to original, I won't, I'll just replicate it here:

u know that more than 200,000 had died in iraq since 2003 and the number is increasing
at least 60 or 70 people die everyday maybe thoes crazy shia kill them or this f* cars kill them but its all cauze of the war
i mean was it worth it ?
and alawys he talks about the freedom what freedom f*** freedom if it was gonna cauze thoes people life they didnt need these fake freedom

i would rather live in no freedom better than i get bombed by some crazy car explositon or some crazy shia ensregent anyway hope this war end for everyone sake and thoes poor soliders who doesnt really know who are they fighting .....
i am just for thoes people who get killed every single day or thoes girls and women who get rapped..
peace

sorry for my bad english i am a middle eastern...
no hard feelings.

Well your numbers come from the 'esteemed' journal, Lancet, with the same lead researcher, Les Roberts as the 2004 report of somewhere in the vicinity of 2k-100,000k civilians in Iraq killed, just before the election. By 2005 Dr. Roberts conceded that the numbers had been released for political consideration.


http://www.seixon.com/blog/archives/2005/12/death_of_statis_1.html

Now Lancet and Dr. Roberts are doing the same in 2006, so you believe him?

 

[akiboy]

BLOODY HELL!! What a goddamn communal mess up this thread has become!!!!
This thread sure does bring out the worst betwen both the civilizations!!!



I think Muslims and Christians and any religion for that matter nurture peace.
That's what is written in the Bible , The Quraa'n and The Hindu Vedas.

Yes , I agree Islam has given rise to fanatical terrorism that is ripping apart the world in the name of God.
But in the old days even the Church commited grave crimes.
So did the Hindus in india especially fanatic organizations like ShivSena in Mumbai who are agiainst any form of Islam.

The last time there was a serious conflict between Christians and Muslims was in the Crusades. The bloddiest of them all was the Crusade.

I hope it just stays this way. With N.K and Iran going nulcear we don't want a goddamn bloodbath between two major religions.!!!


AKshay

 

[roadhouse158]

The difference between American freedom from England and the Iraqi's freedom fight is that the Iraqis aren't commited as a whole. You have several that are, and a lot that want it, but are too scared to fight for it. I am not saying that I blame them. I don't have bombs going off next door everyday. It's not just that the insurgency is getting stronger, but it's that other countries, excluding America has pulled out most of their troops, and some countries completely removed all troops. I have no idea why everyone thought this would be easy. I never heard the Bush Administration say is was going to be. Quiet the contrary. Things would have been a lot better by now if we had more support. That's not happening. Not even in our own country. America has always been the model for freedom. It's an American promise to everyone that wants freedom; we will help them get it. Only half the country sees' that. Iraq can not win this war when their biggest Ally(USA) can't even agree that it's worth it. All people deserve freedom. Not just Americans. In My Opinon

 

[nt250]

BLOODY HELL!! What a goddamn communal mess up this thread has become!!!!
This thread sure does bring out the worst betwen both the civilizations!!!



I think Muslims and Christians and any religion for that matter nurture peace.
That's what is written in the Bible , The Quraa'n and The Hindu Vedas.

Yes , I agree Islam has given rise to fanatical terrorism that is ripping apart the world in the name of God.
But in the old days even the Church commited grave crimes.
So did the Hindus in india especially fanatic organizations like ShivSena in Mumbai who are agiainst any form of Islam.

The last time there was a serious conflict between Christians and Muslims was in the Crusades. The bloddiest of them all was the Crusade.

I hope it just stays this way. With N.K and Iran going nulcear we don't want a goddamn bloodbath between two major religions.!!!


AKshay

That's absolutely not true, and although I hate to be a broken record, I feel it is important to dispell this myth some people are intent on furthering. Islam is NOT the Religion of Peace. Islam has been at constant war with non-believers since it's inception, and it's main is goal is world domination. It always has been and it always will be that way because that is why Islam was founded in the first place. No matter how many Muslims claim that Jihad means "inner struggle", they're lying. That's what Muslims do. Their use of language is their most dangerous tool, and they use it well.

I thought Just Sad was a fake. But I now believe I was wrong about that. Judging by his posts on this thread, he probably is a Muslim. Stupidest one I've ever come across, but who knows?

 

[just_sad]

That's absolutely not true, and although I hate to be a broken record, I feel it is important to dispell this myth some people are intent on furthering. Islam is NOT the Religion of Peace. Islam has been at constant war with non-believers since it's inception, and it's main is goal is world domination. It always has been and it always will be that way because that is why Islam was founded in the first place. No matter how many Muslims claim that Jihad means "inner struggle", they're lying. That's what Muslims do. Their use of language is their most dangerous tool, and they use it well.

I thought Just Sad was a fake. But I now believe I was wrong about that. Judging by his posts on this thread, he probably is a Muslim. Stupidest one I've ever come across, but who knows?

u remind me of stewie griffin when he alawys talks about the world domination hahaha.... just stop and listen to yourself

so i am the stupidest one u have ever met ... interesting

you remind me of that guy in american history x that teacher...not the black one

 

[nt250]

u remind me of stewie griffin when he alawys talks about the world domination hahaha.... just stop and listen to yourself

so i am the stupidest one u have ever met ... interesting

you remind me of that guy in american history x that teacher...not the black one

Sorry, I didn't see that movie. But I heard it's pretty gross.

It's too bad I can't post on my last board anymore. I have a board friend there who you might enjoy talking to. He was 19 when I first started talking to him. He'd be about 21 now. He's a Shi'a Muslim who lives in Iran. Huge soccer fan. Nice kid. Hates Wahhabists.

Lay off the chat speak and maybe you won't come across so dumb. Also, in my experience in posting on message boards with people from all over the world for years, non-English speakers who post on English language boards are usually much better at spelling and grammar than many of the natives. So maybe if you made a little effort, you wouldn't come across as such a troll.

But that's just my opinion.

 

[just_sad]

Sorry, I didn't see that movie. But I heard it's pretty gross.

It's too bad I can't post on my last board anymore. I have a board friend there who you might enjoy talking to. He was 19 when I first started talking to him. He'd be about 21 now. He's a Shi'a Muslim who lives in Iran. Huge soccer fan. Nice kid. Hates Wahhabists.

Lay off the chat speak and maybe you won't come across so dumb. Also, in my experience in posting on message boards with people from all over the world for years, non-English speakers who post on English language boards are usually much better at spelling and grammar than many of the natives. So maybe if you made a little effort, you wouldn't come across as such a troll.

But that's just my opinion.

hey geezer my balls are going into coma cauze of your words hooooooof
u are boringgggggggggggggggggg me

hey and dont try to make me talk shit about muslim shi'a its an old game
dont try to play it because its not working ... haha u are so pathetic

i am sure that the iranian is a nice kid who tells you what do you love to hear


troll or not troll ... whatever u say

and american history x is the greatest movie i had ever seen because it expose haters like u


and thats just my opinion
enough with your B.S