how many people died in iraq cauze of bush war

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u know that more than 200,000 had died in iraq since 2003 and the number is increasing
at least 60 or 70 people die everyday maybe thoes crazy shia kill them or this f* cars kill them but its all cauze of the war
i mean was it worth it ?
and alawys he talks about the freedom what freedom f*** freedom if it was gonna cauze thoes people life they didnt need these fake freedom

i would rather live in no freedom better than i get bombed by some crazy car explositon or some crazy shia ensregent anyway hope this war end for everyone sake and thoes poor soliders who doesnt really know who are they fighting .....
i am just for thoes people who get killed every single day or thoes girls and women who get rapped..
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sorry for my bad english i am a middle eastern...
no hard feelings:dunno:
Welcome to the board - Did you notice that it's arabs who are bombing civilicans and shooting the country to hell? It's not Bush. It's Islamic Radicals.

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Even our media, which loves to bloat the 'negative' statistics on the war, are disputing the 200k statistic. You also have to remember that a greatly disproportionate number of those people were 18-30 year old males, leading me to believe that they're counting dead terrorists in that figure.
 
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yeah i did but befor this war there wasnt Islamic Radicals
and thoes crazy islamic radicals do that under the name of resistance ...
so if this war just stopped i would like to think that everything will back to normal hopefully and that booldbath will stop
 

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u know that more than 200,000 had died in iraq since 2003 and the number is increasing
at least 60 or 70 people die everyday maybe thoes crazy shia kill them or this f* cars kill them but its all cauze of the war
i mean was it worth it ?
and alawys he talks about the freedom what freedom f*** freedom if it was gonna cauze thoes people life they didnt need these fake freedom

i would rather live in no freedom better than i get bombed by some crazy car explositon or some crazy shia ensregent anyway hope this war end for everyone sake and thoes poor soliders who doesnt really know who are they fighting .....
i am just for thoes people who get killed every single day or thoes girls and women who get rapped..
peace

sorry for my bad english i am a middle eastern...
no hard feelings:dunno:
I do not know what country you are from, however, in America we have the saying
"Give me liberty or give me death!"

This saying comes from a famous historical speech during our Revolutionary War by Patrick Henry, which in the last part says:

What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! -Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775

http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/henry.htm
 

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yeah i did but befor this war there wasnt Islamic Radicals
and thoes crazy islamic radicals do that under the name of resistance ...
so if this war just stopped i would like to think that everything will back to normal hopefully and that booldbath will stop
There were no Islamic radicals before this war???? Who used four commercial airplanes as weapons of mass destruction in an attack on this country that killed 3000 plus people in one swipe? Who blew that big hole in the USS Cole that killed and injured US sailors? Who blew up the Marine barracks in Bierut?

I am truly wondering how you could possibly believe that there were no Islamic radicals prior to "this war"...
 

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yeah i did but befor this war there wasnt Islamic Radicals
and thoes crazy islamic radicals do that under the name of resistance ...
so if this war just stopped i would like to think that everything will back to normal hopefully and that booldbath will stop
You would like to think that, but it would never happen. Maybe in your little world the killings never happened but many more died at Saddams hands because of political disagreement then died in this war.

The fact is that the terrorists target the civilians because thats their goal. They disrupt civlian lives and spread "terror" into the hearts of the people. Thats how they get their way. 70% of those Iraqis killed in the war have been at the hands of foreign terror groups attacking Iraqi civilians.

Now if you are an IRaqi civilian, arent you pissed off at foreign arabs coming to your land and killing your people for their cause?
 
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but its so easy to say
but you know people dont need this freedom when they cant feel save
for their family in the street when someone son or wife or sister dies u know in this case freedom is so meaningless
and now in iraq there are no such a thing is freedom
you know if any women works in iraq now she is a target and she might get killed

so its only getting worth and i dont know if its ever going to get better

and i hope u forgot about all this talks of hollywood movies about the freedom and all that **** because its so diffrent in real
and in hollywood movies its alawys with an happy end and the family is save
but it never happens in real

by the way i am from tunis
 

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There were no Islamic radicals before this war???? Who used four commercial airplanes as weapons of mass destruction in an attack on this country that killed 3000 plus people in one swipe? Who blew that big hole in the USS Cole that killed and injured US sailors? Who blew up the Marine barracks in Bierut?

I am truly wondering how you could possibly believe that there were no Islamic radicals prior to "this war"...
He meant in Iraq but even that is inaccurate.
 

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but its so easy to say
but you know people dont need this freedom when they cant feel save
for their family in the street when someone son or wife or sister dies u know in this case freedom is so meaningless
and now in iraq there are no such a thing is freedom
you know if any women works in iraq now she is a target and she might get killed

so its only getting worth and i dont know if its ever going to get better

and i hope u forgot about all this talks of hollywood movies about the freedom and all that **** because its so diffrent in real
and in hollywood movies its alawys with an happy end and the family is save
but it never happens in real

by the way i am from tunis

My friend, Freedom costs alot. It can be handed over for free. It has to be earned. Being a slave to those will kill you for not thinking the same as they do is not the way to live life.

Look at America. 230 years ago, our founding fathers decided that they were tired of being slaves to England. they fought and died for freedom so that current Americans can live the life that we have. Thats the goal that most Iraqis have. They want to gain freedom so that their grandkids and great grandkids dont have to live everyday in fear of someone who will kill them because they worship the wrong god or disagree with their political beliefs. That is the price of freedom.
 

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but its so easy to say
but you know people dont need this freedom when they cant feel save
for their family in the street when someone son or wife or sister dies u know in this case freedom is so meaningless
and now in iraq there are no such a thing is freedom
you know if any women works in iraq now she is a target and she might get killed

so its only getting worth and i dont know if its ever going to get better

and i hope u forgot about all this talks of hollywood movies about the freedom and all that **** because its so diffrent in real
and in hollywood movies its alawys with an happy end and the family is save
but it never happens in real

by the way i am from tunis

I think you're ENTIRELY wrong, but I like you for some reason. :) Seriously - welcome to the board. :)
 
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i respect american history for sure
but i have heard that when you came from england and all europe
you killed all the indian americans
like a lot of them
then you
went to africa and bring it some black people so they would be slaves
and they been slaves for like 100 or 150 years
then finally they got their freedom
after a lot of fights
to get their rights


i am not queit sure if that right but i heard this story a lot !
 

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i respect american history for sure
but i have heard that when you came from england and all europe
you killed all the indian americans
like a lot of them
then you
went to africa and bring it some black people so they would be slaves
and they been slaves for like 100 or 150 years
then finally they got their freedom
after a lot of fights
to get their rights


i am not queit sure if that right but i heard this story a lot !

Not exactly true, brother. :)

AFRICANS sold other africans as slaves... :) And we didn't kill ALL The native Americans...We did, however, give them LOTS of alcohol and casinos. :D
 

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....i would rather live in no freedom better than i get bombed by some crazy car explositon or some crazy shia ensregent ....
When American colonists declared independence from the British in 1776 we justified our act of treason by maintaining that Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness were granted by God to man as a self-evident truth. Some of the greatest patriots in America came from our state of New Hampshire. Their legacy lives on with the official motto: "Live Free or Die".

We Americans have unselfishly expended the lives of many of our finest, along with considerable treasure, in order to bring freedom and democracy to Iraq. Until Iraqis accept the basic truth about freedom and commit to patriotism, and become willing to risk their own lives for it, they will never live in peace.
 

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i respect american history for sure
but i have heard that when you came from england and all europe
you killed all the indian americans
like a lot of them
then you
went to africa and bring it some black people so they would be slaves
and they been slaves for like 100 or 150 years
then finally they got their freedom
after a lot of fights
to get their rights


i am not queit sure if that right but i heard this story a lot !
Indians were a conquered nation by the English, Dutch, Spanish and French through the colonial years. Americans were British citizens that were overtaxed and threatened with death for not paying up. They started a revolution to have their own country and live free.

Slavery and its abolition is all part of the greatness of living in a FREE nation. Mistakes can be corrected. The ancestors of these slaves are free and live a very prosperous life compared to the life of starvation and poverty in Africa.

Slavery still exists in the Arab world today. In the times you speak of though, Middle Eastern Arabs were among the worst slave-traders with Africans, Europeans and other Arabs. So try to get the context of the story.
 

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i respect american history for sure
but i have heard that when you came from england and all europe
you killed all the indian americans
like a lot of them
then you
went to africa and bring it some black people so they would be slaves
and they been slaves for like 100 or 150 years
then finally they got their freedom
after a lot of fights
to get their rights


i am not queit sure if that right but i heard this story a lot !
This is the Howard Zinn version of American history: mostly lies, the remainder socialist musings.
 
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i mean did iraqi ever asked for freedom from usa
haha
did they ever do that ?


i hate sadam though thats another story but the people of a country dont need some other country to get for them freedom

who asked you for freedom ?
 
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why dont us army free china from their dicitatores or north korea which i think its a real therat not like iraq


why iraq why iraq ? .................................... whispering '' gas ''
i just wonder why
 

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i mean did iraqi ever asked for freedom from usa
haha
did they ever do that ?


i hate sadam though thats another story but the people of a country dont need some other country to get for them freedom

who asked you for freedom ?
When Saddam started working with terrorists, it didnt matter. He was going to be removed. So now the byproduct is that Iraqis will get freedom if they can handle it.
 

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