How many deaths are necessary before something should be banned?

[2aguy]

There were 542 homicides reported by police in Canada for a rate of 1.8 per 100,000 population, compared to 15,517 homicides in the U.S., for a rate of 5.5 per 100,000 population. The proportion of homicides committed by strangers was slightly higher in the United States (23% compared to 17% in Canada).

Yeah.......

15-20 million Europeans murdered in 6 years.........1939-1945, after they banned and confiscated guns...

Add that into the total for Europe.......

Meanwhile, over the entire 247 years of gun murder in the U.S.....around 2,470,000

At the same time, Americans use their legal guns, on average, 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, and stabbings.........

Can you tell which numbers are bigger?

Government murders more people than criminals do, they just do it in the millions....

 

[2aguy]

Really? They already DO tax guns. I guess that’s not unconstitutional after all

Yeah, that needs to be challenged in court........

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Try this again with supporting documentation and evidence.

The narrative: 30,000 people die due to guns, guns should be banned.
Drunk Driving kills 13,000. Does that number have to get to 30,000 before we ban alcohol again?

Drunk Driving | NHTSA.

What about 2nd hand tobacco smoke. According to the CDC, 2nd hand tobacco smoke deaths is estimated at 41,000 deaths. Where is the political and social outcry to ban tobacco.

Tobacco-Related Mortality

See the data and statistical information on tobacco-related mortality rates regarding smoking and tobacco use

www.cdc.gov

“How many deaths are necessary before something should be banned?”

Better question: How many deaths are necessary before something should be done.

Banning won’t solve anything; bans don’t work, whether it’s drugs, Prohibition, abortion, or guns – in addition to being unwarranted government excess and overreach.

And of course Republicans believe that nothing should be done; lying about guns being ‘banned’ and ‘confiscated’ pays huge political dividends, keeping the base frightened, ignorance, angry, and going to the polls.

 

[otto105]

Abortion was not banned it was returned to the States where it belongs.

And the scitus review of the RU 486 pill is what.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah.......

15-20 million Europeans murdered in 6 years.........1939-1945, after they banned and confiscated guns...

Add that into the total for Europe.......

Meanwhile, over the entire 247 years of gun murder in the U.S.....around 2,470,000

At the same time, Americans use their legal guns, on average, 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, and stabbings.........

Can you tell which numbers are bigger?

Government murders more people than criminals do, they just do it in the millions....

Really because I'm more afraid of the people than I am the government. Unless I was black, then I'd be afraid of the cops too. Citizens and cops. Man blacks have it bad. No one to trust.

Now you Trump supporters suddenly agree with blacks not to trust the government? Interesting. For years you told them the court system wasn't racist but Trump gets one Mexican judge and suddenly the court is corrupt.

 

[2aguy]

“How many deaths are necessary before something should be banned?”

Better question: How many deaths are necessary before something should be done.

Banning won’t solve anything; bans don’t work, whether it’s drugs, Prohibition, abortion, or guns – in addition to being unwarranted government excess and overreach.

And of course Republicans believe that nothing should be done; lying about guns being ‘banned’ and ‘confiscated’ pays huge political dividends, keeping the base frightened, ignorance, angry, and going to the polls.

You are a lying piece of crap.

We tell you what needs to be done to actually lower the crime rate......keep violent, repeat offenders locked up...don't let them out on bail...they are the 5% of the criminal population doing all of the shooting....and democrat party judges, politicians, and prosecutors keep releasing them back onto our streets, over and over again......

 

[2aguy]

Really because I'm more afraid of the people than I am the government. Unless I was black, then I'd be afraid of the cops too. Citizens and cops. Man blacks have it bad. No one to trust.

Now you Trump supporters suddenly agree with blacks not to trust the government? Interesting. For years you told them the court system wasn't racist but Trump gets one Mexican judge and suddenly the court is corrupt.

The court system isn't racist.......blacks actually do commit more crime because the democrat party has destroyed black families......

Cops are not shooting black men......black men are shooting black men in massive numbers...but since black Americans are garaunteed to vote democrat, the democrats don't care about those murders....

 

[WinterBorn]

Try this again with supporting documentation and evidence.

The narrative: 30,000 people die due to guns, guns should be banned.
Drunk Driving kills 13,000. Does that number have to get to 30,000 before we ban alcohol again?

Drunk Driving | NHTSA.

What about 2nd hand tobacco smoke. According to the CDC, 2nd hand tobacco smoke deaths is estimated at 41,000 deaths. Where is the political and social outcry to ban tobacco.

Tobacco-Related Mortality

See the data and statistical information on tobacco-related mortality rates regarding smoking and tobacco use

www.cdc.gov

The only way you get 30,000 gun deaths is if you include the +/-24,000 suicides by gun. And the ONLY thing you can know for sure about those is that they truly wanted to die.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Really? They already DO tax guns. I guess that’s not unconstitutional after all

they do not have a specific tax on firearms a general tax on everything is legal.

 

[Lesh]

they do not have a specific tax on firearms a general tax on everything is legal.

What about machine guns?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What about machine guns?

those arent protected by the 2nd amendment'

 

[Lesh]

You are a lying piece of crap.

We tell you what needs to be done to actually lower the crime rate......keep violent, repeat offenders locked up...don't let them out on bail...they are the 5% of the criminal population doing all of the shooting....and democrat party judges, politicians, and prosecutors keep releasing them back onto our streets, over and over again......

Yeah. ANYTHING other than limiting the massive numbers of guns right?

 

[Lesh]

those arent protected by the 2nd amendment'

Why not? They’re guns

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yeah. ANYTHING other than limiting the massive numbers of guns right?

the number of Firearms has nothing to do with the crime and murder rate. Since the 1990s both have gone DOWN while firearm ownership went UP.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why not? They’re guns

Automatic weapons right or wrong are not protected by the 2nd amendment.

 

[Lesh]

the number of Firearms has nothing to do with the crime and murder rate. Since the 1990s both have gone DOWN while firearm ownership went UP.

Weren’t you fuckers just screaming how HIGH the crime rates was?

Your story changes with the discussion.

Oh and by the way short barreled shot guns, rifles, suppressors, “destructive devices” and AOWs are also taxed.

Do ya know what AOW stands for?

 

[2aguy]

Yeah. ANYTHING other than limiting the massive numbers of guns right?

If you actually keep the criminals who do all of the shooting locked up you dont have anything to worry about with guns.

Bit the democrats refuse to enforce the gun laws we have now because they want criminals out on the street shooting people...

 

[2aguy]

Automatic weapons right or wrong are not protected by the 2nd amendment.

Yes they are

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Weren’t you fuckers just screaming how HIGH the crime rates was?

Your story changes with the discussion.

Oh and by the way short barreled shot guns, rifles, suppressors, “destructive devices” and AOWs are also taxed.

Do ya know what AOW stands for?

there was a court case that went to the supreme Court in the 40's that ruled short barreled shotguns were not covered by the 2nd amendment. suppressors are not weapons so not covered. AOW is very limited and does not include ant rifled barrel so no problem. man you are reaching, Shall we return to poll taxes and tests to determine who can vote too?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes they are

No they are not 13 states OUTLAW automatic weapons completely and the rest require a special permit to own. Further none that are owned can have been manufactured after 1986.