How many are paying attention to Venezuela?

[The Rabbi]

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela

The allegations that the United States is helping to organize protestors in Venezuela is baseless and false," US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

...Maduro also rejected Washington's demand to rescind an arrest warrant against opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. Maduro accused the US of trying to overthrow his government.

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela | Latino Times

What a baseless accusation, U.S. has never been involved in the overthrow of a government, why would they start now?

Are you suggesting the U.S. under el Massimo Lider Obama is undermining Venezuela?

 

[KNB]

49 million are struggling because they are under the thumb of the government. Their potentual employers are under the thumb of regulations that make it less attractive to actually hire someone.

The 1% have more money than ever before in history. All they have to do to create jobs is spend their fortunes. It doesn't have to be all of it, but they can spend trillions and put that money to work and still have trillions left.

Liberalism is the takeover of the fascist state by the state. Since the corporation is enjoying so much of the governments largess you want the government to take over the corporation for the benefit of the worker. Communism.

Well, that's entirely wrong from the start. Social liberalism is the idea that "it's okay if it doesn't hurt anyone else." That's for things like gay marriage and smoking weed. Economic liberalism, or Neo-Liberalism as it has been called, is the idea that "anything you can do to make more money is fine, no matter how many people get hurt." The richest 1% are Neo-Liberal. This is Fascism. The rich are using corporate money to sway government power, and the government agents seeking campaign contributions are more than willing to comply. The problem is not poor people. The problem is rich people.

It never dawned on you that the entire reason the government/corporate marriage exists is because they can't take over the livelihood of the citizen apart they have to do it together. Tax codes of millions of pages, with special cut out's and perks that nobody else gets are the problem. You want equality? No more tax breaks. Flat tax for everyone. You can graduate it as earning rise but no deductions no special perks for going into un-profitable ventures the tax payers will fund.

That's a bunch of Heritage Foundation garbage. Flat tax is a hand-out to corporations and nothing more. The lowest wage earners end up paying a disproportionately larger percentage of their incomes than wealthy households.
What is a Flat Tax? (Surprise! It is a VAT) - Forbes

You are to focused on what some have other than opening it up to everyone.

The tax code with its millions of pages was designed by the 1%. Do you honestly think that the 49 million Americans who are struggling to find their next meal are interested in the tax code?

"Opening it up to everyone" includes the rich spending the trillions of dollars that they have.

 

[percysunshine]

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela

The allegations that the United States is helping to organize protestors in Venezuela is baseless and false," US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

...Maduro also rejected Washington's demand to rescind an arrest warrant against opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. Maduro accused the US of trying to overthrow his government.

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela | Latino Times

What a baseless accusation, U.S. has never been involved in the overthrow of a government, why would they start now?

You mean all that shit that happend in 1776 was invented by CNN?

 

[Truthseeker420]

Mostly for the benefit of educating you left wing fools.

It?s Happening In Real Time. Pay Attention. | Is This Blog On?

Toyota Motor Company shut down assembly. GM and Ford aren’t assembling cars either, because they can’t get parts. Inflation is at 50%. The TV stations are all now state controlled. Propaganda posters boast of socialist Venezuela, while there isn’t even toilet paper to wipe their asses. Twitter was shut down the other day when it was being used to coordinate student protests against the government. Yet, useful idiots like Sean Penn and Danny Glover supported Chavez and the social revolution which has lead to this ruin.

How many times do we need to watch your failed policies come to life and die in front of our own eye's before you left wing idiots catch on?

Socialism and communism is a sure route to failure. Yet you keep promoting these same policies here. When the hell are you going to learn?

Yes, it has nothing to do with the sanctions.

 

[KNB]

This thread is about Venezuela. Go start your own bashing America thread but stop trying to derail this one.

The OP started out about Venezuela's failures and then went straight into a warped rant about "Liberals want Marxist Sharia Fascism in America" or whatever.

This thread about Venezuela was derailed by the very first post.

No it wasn't derailed. This is exactly what I wanted. Why are you for the policies of Venezuela and persuing those same policies here when they clearly lead to the failure of an entire nation?

When did I say that I was for Venezuela's policies or that I want them here? If I say, "Liberalism doesn't mean Communism", you assume that means, "I love Hugo Chavez." That doesn't make any sense.

 

[The Rabbi]

49 million are struggling because they are under the thumb of the government. Their potentual employers are under the thumb of regulations that make it less attractive to actually hire someone.

The 1% have more money than ever before in history. All they have to do to create jobs is spend their fortunes. It doesn't have to be all of it, but they can spend trillions and put that money to work and still have trillions left.

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Do you have any idea how patently stupid you sound?

 

[percysunshine]

49 million are struggling because they are under the thumb of the government. Their potentual employers are under the thumb of regulations that make it less attractive to actually hire someone.

The 1% have more money than ever before in history. All they have to do to create jobs is spend their fortunes. It doesn't have to be all of it, but they can spend trillions and put that money to work and still have trillions left.

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Do you have any idea how patently stupid you sound?

Somebody has the patent on stupidity??

Must be the richest person on the planet from the royalties.

 

[Truthseeker420]

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela

The allegations that the United States is helping to organize protestors in Venezuela is baseless and false," US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

...Maduro also rejected Washington's demand to rescind an arrest warrant against opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. Maduro accused the US of trying to overthrow his government.

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela | Latino Times

What a baseless accusation, U.S. has never been involved in the overthrow of a government, why would they start now?

Are you suggesting the U.S. under el Massimo Lider Obama is undermining Venezuela?

Wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Truthseeker420]

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela

The allegations that the United States is helping to organize protestors in Venezuela is baseless and false," US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.

...Maduro also rejected Washington's demand to rescind an arrest warrant against opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. Maduro accused the US of trying to overthrow his government.

US denies "conspiracy" allegations in Venezuela | Latino Times

What a baseless accusation, U.S. has never been involved in the overthrow of a government, why would they start now?

You mean all that shit that happend in 1776 was invented by CNN?

libtards

 

[The Rabbi]

What a baseless accusation, U.S. has never been involved in the overthrow of a government, why would they start now?

Are you suggesting the U.S. under el Massimo Lider Obama is undermining Venezuela?

Wouldn't be surprised.

Really? So the rioting is due to US intriguing,not the fact that people cannot buy simple household items and many many people are out of work.
Then again, you consistently support the Left so that tells me your powers of critical thinking have been flushed with 420.

 

[percysunshine]

Obama is too clumsy to over throw a government on the sly. He can't even disguise a segment of an insurance industry.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Are you suggesting the U.S. under el Massimo Lider Obama is undermining Venezuela?

Wouldn't be surprised.

Really? So the rioting is due to US intriguing,not the fact that people cannot buy simple household items and many many people are out of work.
Then again, you consistently support the Left so that tells me your powers of critical thinking have been flushed with 420.

I would say the rioting is due to the sanctions by the U.S. and other world powers.

 

[The Rabbi]

Wouldn't be surprised.

Really? So the rioting is due to US intriguing,not the fact that people cannot buy simple household items and many many people are out of work.
Then again, you consistently support the Left so that tells me your powers of critical thinking have been flushed with 420.

I would say the rioting is due to the sanctions by the U.S. and other world powers.

What sanctions would those be?

 

[Truthseeker420]

Really? So the rioting is due to US intriguing,not the fact that people cannot buy simple household items and many many people are out of work.
Then again, you consistently support the Left so that tells me your powers of critical thinking have been flushed with 420.

I would say the rioting is due to the sanctions by the U.S. and other world powers.

What sanctions would those be?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D51guWhcDw]Venezuelan protest US oil sanctions - YouTube[/ame]

 

[The Rabbi]

Yeah guy that's almost 3 years old. Guess again.
The truth is socialism has failed in Venezuela, just as it fails everywhere else. Socialism brings nothing but misery and death wherever it goes.

 

[westwall]

Progressives don't support Communism, Humanism is not Socialism, and Reaganomics doesn't work.

Ummmmm, wanna bet? Those of us who were around at that time remember what the Progressives were saying. I am a liberal Democrat and proud of it. I am NOT a Progressive. The Progressive way leads to nothing but death.


•H. G. Wells, one of the most influential progressives of the 20th century, said in 1932 that progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.” Regarding totalitarianism, he stated: “I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic.” Calling for a “‘Phoenix Rebirth’ of Liberalism” under the umbrella of “Liberal Fascism,” Wells said: “I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.”
•The poet Wallace Stevens pronounced himself “pro-Mussolini personally.”
•The eminent historian Charles Beard wrote of Mussolini’s efforts: “Beyond question, an amazing experiment is being made [in Italy], an experiment in reconciling individualism and socialism.”
•Muckraking journalists almost universally admired Mussolini. Lincoln Steffens, for one, said that Italian fascism made Western democracy, by comparison, look like a system run by “petty persons with petty purposes.” Mussolini, Steffens proclaimed reverently, had been “formed” by God “out of the rib of Italy.”
•McClure’s Magazine founder Samuel McClure, an important figure in the muckraking movement, described Italian fascism as “a great step forward and the first new ideal in government since the founding of the American Republic.”
•After having vistited Italy and interviewed Mussolini in 1926, the American humorist Will Rogers, who was informally dubbed “Ambassador-at-Large of the United States” by the National Press Club, said of the fascist dictator: “I’m pretty high on that bird.” “Dictator form of government is the greatest form of government,” Rogers wrote, “that is, if you have the right dictator.”
•Reporter Ida Tarbell was deeply impressed by Mussolini's attitudes regarding labor, affectionately dubbing him “a despot with a dimple.”
•NAACP co-founder W. E. B. DuBois saw National Socialism as a worthy model for economic organization. The establishment of the Nazi dictatorship in Germany, he wrote, had been “absolutely necessary to get the state in order.” In 1937 DuBois stated: “there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past.”
•FDR adviser Rexford Guy Tugwell said of Italian fascism: “It's the cleanest, neatest, most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious.”
•New Republic editor George Soule, who avidly supported FDR, noted approvingly that the Roosevelt administration was “trying out the economics of fascism.”
•Playwright George Bernard Shaw hailed Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini as the world’s great “progressive” leaders because they “did things,” unlike the leaders of those “putrefying corpses” called parliamentary democracies.




Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Obama is too clumsy to over throw a government on the sly. He can't even disguise a segment of an insurance industry.

Hell, he can't even get a website to run.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Yeah guy that's almost 3 years old. Guess again.
The truth is socialism has failed in Venezuela, just as it fails everywhere else. Socialism brings nothing but misery and death wherever it goes.

Sanctions take time to work. Pure socialism is just as idealistic as a pure free market but Socialist European countries are doing fine.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The OP started out about Venezuela's failures and then went straight into a warped rant about "Liberals want Marxist Sharia Fascism in America" or whatever.

This thread about Venezuela was derailed by the very first post.

No it wasn't derailed. This is exactly what I wanted. Why are you for the policies of Venezuela and persuing those same policies here when they clearly lead to the failure of an entire nation?

When did I say that I was for Venezuela's policies or that I want them here? If I say, "Liberalism doesn't mean Communism", you assume that means, "I love Hugo Chavez." That doesn't make any sense.

You actually proved the point in the next post. You actually do want communism. The rich must pay for being rich and the poor must demand more of what they didn't earn.

You are actually all for Chevez's system of taking from people instead of giving people opportunity.

49 million are struggling because they are under the thumb of the government. Their potentual employers are under the thumb of regulations that make it less attractive to actually hire someone.

The 1% have more money than ever before in history. All they have to do to create jobs is spend their fortunes. It doesn't have to be all of it, but they can spend trillions and put that money to work and still have trillions left.

Liberalism is the takeover of the fascist state by the state. Since the corporation is enjoying so much of the governments largess you want the government to take over the corporation for the benefit of the worker. Communism.

Well, that's entirely wrong from the start. Social liberalism is the idea that "it's okay if it doesn't hurt anyone else." That's for things like gay marriage and smoking weed. Economic liberalism, or Neo-Liberalism as it has been called, is the idea that "anything you can do to make more money is fine, no matter how many people get hurt." The richest 1% are Neo-Liberal. This is Fascism. The rich are using corporate money to sway government power, and the government agents seeking campaign contributions are more than willing to comply. The problem is not poor people. The problem is rich people.

It never dawned on you that the entire reason the government/corporate marriage exists is because they can't take over the livelihood of the citizen apart they have to do it together. Tax codes of millions of pages, with special cut out's and perks that nobody else gets are the problem. You want equality? No more tax breaks. Flat tax for everyone. You can graduate it as earning rise but no deductions no special perks for going into un-profitable ventures the tax payers will fund.

That's a bunch of Heritage Foundation garbage. Flat tax is a hand-out to corporations and nothing more. The lowest wage earners end up paying a disproportionately larger percentage of their incomes than wealthy households.
What is a Flat Tax? (Surprise! It is a VAT) - Forbes

You are to focused on what some have other than opening it up to everyone.

The tax code with its millions of pages was designed by the 1%. Do you honestly think that the 49 million Americans who are struggling to find their next meal are interested in the tax code?

"Opening it up to everyone" includes the rich spending the trillions of dollars that they have.

What part of this rant isn't communism? You ranted against people that made money and how they need to pay others but you never address what would make the least fortunate able to achieve success on their own. You can't seem to get beyond taking from one to give to another as equality. You never consider that giving someone an opportunity is better than taking from another. The rich in your mind must spend all their money to make life equal for all. When the truth is we need to reduce regulations to where the poor can make their own way of their own volition and not worry about what the next guy has earned.

 

[JQPublic1]

mostly for the benefit of educating you left wing fools.

very simply put....socialism leads to no toilet paper....

and thats a bad thing when the big boy capitalists are constantly shitting on you!