zaangalewa
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There have never been a state of Ukraine untill disintegration of USSR, i. e. present state is not only artificial, but also was created by a coincidence, a whim of history.
And it is already a failed state, which gallops to own disappearance.
In the moment if disintegration of the USSR it had GDP per capita bigger than in Russia ( now - 1/3 of Russian, it had population of 52 mln (now hardly 35, more likely less) and decreasing fast.
Worst level of life in Europe, biggest spread of deseases, etc etc, an average African country.
All this is a result of anti-Russian elite being determined on cutting any ties with Russia, which is preconditiin of keeping own power.
Self destruction of Ukraine culminated in 2014, when US and EU sponsored Nazi coup accelerated deindustrialization and disintegration of Ukraine, having started civil war there.
Present Nazi regime seem to be going to start a war with Russia, or to be orecize - the US is going to start a proxi war with Russia by Ukrainian hands.
This is obviously going to end with annihilation of Ukraine.
But how soon and what will remain of Ukraine?
Will Russia reunite the whole if Ukraine with itself?
Will Poland, Hungary and Romania take lands they had before WWII?
Will anything be left as some US protectorate? Or Russian protectorate? Or a chaotic Wild field?...
Anyway, the war seems to be inevitable, the US has no other way to "contain" Russia even for some period of time..
Most states are "artificial". Russia started life in Kiev. The Russ are from modern day Sweden.
It makes no difference if they're artificial or not.
it makes difference, artificial states are not a result of long historic process, they have not passed tough exams of History which tested their ability to live, locals may not have skills and mentality required to keep the state united.
summing up - artificial states are not self sustainable in long term.
like post British Imperial India - immediately broke up to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
As for Ukraine - Ukrainians are extreme nationalists, they are used to be a minority, a cherished and appeased by Russians in USSR.
And having acquaired an own state instead of tolerance to minorities they immediatelly started supressing them, which finally led to civil war and will lead to further disintegration.
Sooner it will happen bettsr it will be for all, including Ukrainians themselves.
Well, I disagree, because all states have been artificial at one point or another.
Not so the Bohemians - for example - who had partially lived "since ever" in Bohemia and were displaced and wiped out from the allies of world war 2. Not the only crime the allies had done during world war 2. So if you can do crimes together - what about the idea to live in peace together?