How is it that people who need COVID relief don't get it but those that don't do?

[Ben Thomson]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

 

[TNHarley]

DC is a failure. Has been for generations.
Thats why i will never be able to understand the typical statist mindset

 

[Uncensored2008]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Comrade, they are an employer like any other.

I know you want camps for Christians and other enemies of the party, but while Trump was president we were a free nation where all used to be equal.

 

[Moonglow]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Because these poor rich bastards lobby what they want.. Isn't it amazing that PPP loans to rich bitches are forgiven and nothing is said yet when they talk about forgiving student loans it's like they are killing the golden calf...

 

[White 6]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

 

[Polishprince]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

 

[toobfreak]

How is it that people who need COVID relief don't get it but those that don't do?

Obviously, none of this is meant to help anyone! The whole year has been about getting a capitalist out of the White House, get us back on track with socialism and use Covid as the excuse to collapse the economy breaking the back of small business! The goal is to cripple America, eliminate a lot of people, force a large reduction in CO2, and break the economic independence from government and big business.

The everyday man is less than dirt to the avowed globalist. They want America. You've just voted your life away getting rid of DJT and are too blind stupid to even realize it yet.

 

[Polishprince]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Because these poor rich bastards lobby what they want.. Isn't it amazing that PPP loans to rich bitches are forgiven and nothing is said yet when they talk about forgiving student loans it's like they are killing the golden calf...

The problem with forgiving student loans is that it is basically calling those folks who did pay back their loans or didn't take one to start with "suckers" and "losers".

 

[Moonglow]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Because these poor rich bastards lobby what they want.. Isn't it amazing that PPP loans to rich bitches are forgiven and nothing is said yet when they talk about forgiving student loans it's like they are killing the golden calf...

The problem with forgiving student loans is that it is basically calling those folks who did pay back their loans or didn't take one to start with "suckers" and "losers".

Same can be said for those that took out loans for a business and had to pay them back..

 

[Ben Thomson]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

Exactly. He, as other chruches who score big money out of this, should see whom among their parishioners are small struggling business people, like small family run restaurants etc. and pass the money on to them. However I get the feeling most of the money will just go to furthering the life style of 'church leaders'.

 

[OldLady]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Maybe the Dems' idea of giving the money to the states and letting them figure it out isn't such a bad idea?

 

[TNHarley]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

Donating his time? He is a multi millionaire because of the church. If he didnt have the church, no one would know his name.
Him "not accepting salary" doesnt matter because the church sells his books for him. The church gets his speaking gigs for him.

 

[debbiedowner]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

Donating his time? He is a multi millionaire because of the church. If he didnt have the church, no one would know his name.
Him "not accepting salary" doesnt matter because the church sells his books for him. The church gets his speaking gigs for him.

Not to mention people from all over the world send him money for his collection plates. You receive a PPP loan by god you better pay taxes.

 

[White 6]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

Have heard of bank too large to fail and found it an iffy proposition, but OK. Never heard of a church too large to fail and can't buy it, not recognizing a ripple effect in the national economy. Any way you slice it, the get their income stream by donation of their faithful. Should not be their faithful politicians with our money. The politician may have faith in his ministry, I do not.

 

[RodISHI]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Because these poor rich bastards lobby what they want.. Isn't it amazing that PPP loans to rich bitches are forgiven and nothing is said yet when they talk about forgiving student loans it's like they are killing the golden calf...

Student loan forgiveness won't help a broken or slanted system. If just gives more incentive for colleges to put out more with worthless degrees. If colleges and banks want to gamble money on students that will not put their degrees to good use and pay back for those educations let the colleges and banks foot the bill and let them be responsible for the money they are talking young people into pledging to pay off in the future with those degrees they are supposed to be earning that are supposed to be helping them get better paying jobs.

 

[RodISHI]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

Is it a church or a business? I would see that as a problem if it gets tax free status but then turns around and claims it needs money to operate as a business.

 

[Polishprince]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

Is it a church or a business? I would see that as a problem if it gets tax free status but then turns around and claims it needs money to operate as a business.

The reason for the loan is because they are an employer, not because they are profit or non-profit. Other non-profit organizations got them, as well as government entities.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Maybe the answer is in the way the politicians put in clauses
that help their donors...' In a first, the program included the allowance of direct financial assistance to places deemed "houses of worship.". Mom and pop businesses struggle with meeting the criteria for assistance while churches are now just simply handed millions...Joel Osteen's Church Dragged for Bagging $4.4 Million in Pandemic Loans

Really? I thought they didn't even pay taxes. I am all for people worshiping as they feel and as they feel the need, but they have no need that my tax dollars should have to support. Joel should be donating, not receiving.

This isn't about Joel Osteen, but the church that he serves. Rev. Osteen receives no salary at all from the church, so he is definitely donating his time.

And this church is a huge employer but was unable to pass around the collection plate for months.

Is it a church or a business? I would see that as a problem if it gets tax free status but then turns around and claims it needs money to operate as a business.

All churches are businesses. Non-profit, but businesses.

 

[pknopp]

How is it that people who need COVID relief don't get it but those that don't do?

Obviously, none of this is meant to help anyone! The whole year has been about getting a capitalist out of the White House, get us back on track with socialism and use Covid as the excuse to collapse the economy breaking the back of small business! The goal is to cripple America, eliminate a lot of people, force a large reduction in CO2, and break the economic independence from government and big business.

The everyday man is less than dirt to the avowed globalist. They want America. You've just voted your life away getting rid of DJT and are too blind stupid to even realize it yet.

The capitalist that run on massive debt and billion dollar corporate give aways. You sure define "capitalism" in an odd way.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We are a small company of 8 employees.
The sheer amount of documents and proof these bastards have required from us is un-fucking believable.
We received the money the first of April.
The "loan" has yet to be forgiven, I have had to submit so much financial information that it is getting beyond absurd.
2 full years of 941s... proof of utility payments from Jan-Nov, payroll reports, payroll reports again because for some reason... then nope... we need payroll reports that shows a third party payroll company did the payroll, and a letter from them saying the payroll reports are correct/ And I am only scratching the surface.
These fucking bureaucrats are driving us insane. All we received was $74k. Companies that received 7 figures... no problem!! You are forgiven and how about some more??!!
The red tape is ENORMOUS.