How EVIL is liberalism anyway?

[daws101]

God is Imaginary - 50 simple proofs

• God has never spoken to modern man, for example by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone.

That....that...is your "evidence". Guess what, I too exist but I also have never taken over a tv station or broadcasting station for a "rational" message to everyone.

Your point? All you've done is reinforce your ignorance.
And no that's not my only evidence .
Fail.

 

[Pogo]

Wealthy liberals are willing to raise their own tax rates
Wealthy conservatives want to cut benefits to the poor

Why is that a problem? All of you caring, bleeding-heart liberals will form foundations to make sure the poor have everything they need. So what are you crying about? We could (and should) completely cut all "benefits" (which are 100% unconstitutional) to the poor and they would all be taken care of by you selfless and altruistic liberals. So again I ask - what is the problem? And don't come back with some snarky nonsensical response. Articulate the problem. I don't see one because you liberals are there to save the day.

Mmmmm....rightwinger you are conspicuously quiet over there. Can we assume your silence means you acquiesce?

Guess I can assume the same about your complete lack of counter to my posts.

 

[daws101]

God is Imaginary - 50 simple proofs

• God has never spoken to modern man, for example by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone.

That....that...is your "evidence". Guess what, I too exist but I also have never taken over a tv station or broadcasting station for a "rational" message to everyone.

Not surprising --- you've never posted one here either.

And ruin a perfect run?

 

[P@triot]

God is Imaginary - 50 simple proofs

Proof #1 - try praying

I have! I've asked him in a series of sincere requests so that I may understand - and guess what? He answered them 100% of the time. Seriously. 100%. Without fail.

Now, the ego-driven arrogant people would proclaim "coincidence". But rational, logical, humble people would realize that the statistical probability of what I prayed for occurring at a rate of 100% would literally be trillions of trillions of trillions to one.

And get this - here is the best part about this. In each case, I gave a specific day with only a one hour window. So for all of the time in my life that these very specific requests could have occurred, the specific request "just happened to occur" on the exact day at the exact time that I prayed (so as to ensure there was nothing random - and thus "coincidental" about it). Even one occurrence of this happening would be astronomical. But having many requests and a results rate of 100% unequivocally answers the question of God's existence.

 

[daws101]

Wealthy liberals are willing to raise their own tax rates
Wealthy conservatives want to cut benefits to the poor

Why is that a problem? All of you caring, bleeding-heart liberals will form foundations to make sure the poor have everything they need. So what are you crying about? We could (and should) completely cut all "benefits" (which are 100% unconstitutional) to the poor and they would all be taken care of by you selfless and altruistic liberals. So again I ask - what is the problem? And don't come back with some snarky nonsensical response. Articulate the problem. I don't see one because you liberals are there to save the day.

Mmmmm....rightwinger you are conspicuously quiet over there. Can we assume your silence means you acquiesce?

Guess I can assume the same about your complete lack of counter to my posts.

He does a fine job of avoiding the facts.

 

[daws101]

Did historical Jesus really exist? The evidence just doesn’t add up.

 

[daws101]

God is Imaginary - 50 simple proofs

Proof #1 - try praying

I have! I've asked him in a series of sincere requests so that I may understand - and guess what? He answered them 100% of the time. Seriously. 100%. Without fail.

Now, the ego-driven arrogant people would proclaim "coincidence". But rational, logical, humble people would realize that the statistical probability of what I prayed for occurring at a rate of 100% would literally be trillions of trillions of trillions to one.

And get this - here is the best part about this. In each case, I gave a specific day with only a one hour window. So for all of the time in my life that these very specific requests could have occurred, the specific request "just happened to occur" on the exact day at the exact time that I prayed (so as to ensure there was nothing random - and thus "coincidental" about it). Even one occurrence of this happening would be astronomical. But having many requests and a results rate of 100% unequivocally answers the question of God's existence.

Again you have no point or rational counter argument.

 

[daws101]

Claim: "There is empirical evidence for God" - Skeptical Science

 

[P@triot]

So for those who aren't arrogant and believe they are the ultimate authority in the universe, there is a ton of overwhelming evidence to support the existence of God:

• The Bible
• The Shroud of Turin (carbon dated)
• James Ossuary limestone box
  
• Akiane Kramarik
  
• Colton Burpo (who corroborated Akiane Kramarik)
• Anna Beam
• Bill Weise
• Don Piper
• Dr. Mary Neal
• Jim McComb

This could go on forever obviously so I'll just stop there. The arrogant will never be humble enough to accept what they don't want to believe so it doesn't matter much anyway other than to show that while they can't produce a single shred of evidence that God doesn't exist, there are volumes of evidence proving that He does.

 

[daws101]

So for those who aren't arrogant and believe they are the ultimate authority in the universe, there is a ton of overwhelming evidence to support the existence of God:

• The Bible
• The Shroud of Turin (carbon dated)
• James Ossuary limestone box
  
• Akiane Kramarik
  
• Colton Burpo (who corroborated Akiane Kramarik)
• Anna Beam
• Bill Weise
• Don Piper
• Dr. Mary Neal
• Jim McComb

This could go on forever obviously so I'll just stop there. The arrogant will never be humble enough to accept what they don't want to believe so it doesn't matter much anyway other than to show that while they can't produce a single shred of evidence that God doesn't exist, there are volumes of evidence proving that He does.

Not one thing or person on your list qualifies as objective emperical evidence.

Your claim of" they can't produce" is an absolute lie.
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Epic fail!

 

[Pogo]

So for those who aren't arrogant and believe they are the ultimate authority in the universe, there is a ton of overwhelming evidence to support the existence of God:

• The Bible
• The Shroud of Turin (carbon dated)
• James Ossuary limestone box
  
• Akiane Kramarik
  
• Colton Burpo (who corroborated Akiane Kramarik)
• Anna Beam
• Bill Weise
• Don Piper
• Dr. Mary Neal
• Jim McComb

This could go on forever obviously so I'll just stop there. The arrogant will never be humble enough to accept what they don't want to believe so it doesn't matter much anyway other than to show that while they can't produce a single shred of evidence that God doesn't exist, there are volumes of evidence proving that He does.

My lack of god, what a rube.

 

[Centinel]

Today we see conservatives and libertarians hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, making efforts to disadvantage classes of citizens whom they fear and oppose, conservatives by force of law, libertarians by denying citizens their Constitutional protections – both equally wrong and in conflict with the principles which founded this Nation.

Libertarians want to deny citizens their Constitutional protections? What protections?

To begin with…

• Freedom of speech—the right to hold and express opinions and beliefs, no matter how disagreeable someone else may find them.
• Freedom of religion.
• The right to keep and bear arms.
• The right to not be deprived of live, liberty or property without due process of law.
• The right not to have private property taken for pubic use without just compensation

It's libertarians that are actively attacking these rights, and several others, right?

Or is it possible that Mr. Jones is confusing libertarians with modern-day “liberals”?

You had me going there for a minute.

 

[Centinel]

there is no objective source claiming liberalism is evil

I would consider it evil to take people's property to give to others.

 

[Centinel]

We have a 39% statutory rate....that is before you take your deductions
After corporate deductions the EFFECTIVE tax rate is around 13%
Among the lowest rates in industrialized nations

That's fantastic. However, I'd advocate for no taxes on corporations, if we tax owners on their profits. Otherwise, we're taxing the same income twice.

 

[daws101]

there is no objective source claiming liberalism is evil

I would consider it evil to take people's property to give to others.

Kinda like conservatives who take other people property and keep it for themselves.

 

[daws101]

We have a 39% statutory rate....that is before you take your deductions
After corporate deductions the EFFECTIVE tax rate is around 13%
Among the lowest rates in industrialized nations

That's fantastic. However, I'd advocate for no taxes on corporations, if we tax owners on their profits. Otherwise, we're taxing the same income twice.

Corporations should have a pollution tax at about 50%.

 

[Pogo]

KAZ SAID:

"Yes, liberals did create this country. Today we are called libertarians."

The stupidity of this is exceeded only by its ignorance.

Liberals today are the same liberals who founded this country: pragmatists who created a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, safeguarding the rights of all citizens from government excess, where the people are at liberty to express themselves in a free and democratic society absent unwarranted government interference.

Conservatism and libertarianism are the reactionary remnants of the fear, ignorance, and hate that the Founding Generation sought to remove themselves from – the baseless fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty the Old World subjected to oppression and disadvantage.

Today we see conservatives and libertarians hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, making efforts to disadvantage classes of citizens whom they fear and oppose, conservatives by force of law, libertarians by denying citizens their Constitutional protections – both equally wrong and in conflict with the principles which founded this Nation.

Care to make up anything more.

Classical liberals are thinkers and problem solvers who understand how society functions.

The far left is the product of the elitist class (and is often mistakenly called liberal.....Obama is not a liberal).

True conservatives are no more reactionary than liberals are the far left.

You are so full of crap your eyes must be dark brown.

BullShit !
Classical liberals are essentially todays libertarians. Liberal stems from the word liberate, in other words, freedom. Modern liberals like personal freedom, but not free markets. In that sense, their use of liberal is a misnomer.
Conservatives believe in free markets, but tend to oppose personal freedoms such as homosexuality and drug use.
hope that helps

I don't know of any conservative that opposes people's freedoms to engage in homosexuality. You're lying and you know it. What conservatives oppose is the sexual deviance that turns you on - like a cross-dressing pedophile being allowed into the girls bathroom to watch 8 year old girls change.

And I don't even play the "freedom" game from a bunch of people who work day and night to deny America their 1st Amendment rights, their 2nd Amendment rights, their 4th Amendment rights, and want to force everyone to accept sexual deviance. There is nobody who opposes freedom more than the left. If you truly embraced freedom, you would celebrate the freedom to be hateful, bigoted, racist, or homophobic. Because that is TRUE freedom. You hate freedom and everything about it. You want to force people to believe what you believe, think what you think, say what you say, and accept what you accept. The left is just a bunch of little Saddam Hussein's.

Ummm.... Sparky? Your title here says "liberalism". Now you're frothing about "the left".

Lemme guess --- you don't know the difference, do ya?
That's so cute.

 

[Centinel]

Kinda like conservatives who take other people property and keep it for themselves.

Please elaborate. If someone is stealing another's property, they should be charged with theft.

 

[Centinel]

Corporations should have a pollution tax at about 50%.

Would this pollution tax apply only to corporations that pollute, or anyone who pollutes (like you)?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Liberalism is a cancerous growth upon or nation.