How does the trump Gaza Strip sound?

[BlackSand]

What I know is you found yourself in need invoking a fantastical belief so you wouldn't have to deal with reality.

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You can cut the relevant points you should have gotten out of my post ... But you still don't understand.
Now it's kind of interesting that you want to fight so desperately not to understand ...

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[berg80]

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Yeah ... I thought it might be a little over his head if I tried to explain that's probably where the writers for Star Trek got the idea for the Borg.
It would do more to identify what side of that line he would be standing on in relation to his present-day support for the Collective.

Wow ... Keep at it brother ... Thanks for your Service ...

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Yes, you cultists need to huddle together. High fives and knowing winks all around. When you're the only ones who know what the heck you're talking about it's a tip anonymity is your friend.

 

[Robert W]

All polls showed the same thing and it's not just polls

Anyone who has been following the issue knows that Democrats supported Ukraine much stronger than Republicans,
knows that funding criticism was primarily from the right,
knows that it was Republicans that played political games with Ukraine funding by first demanding it be tied to border deal, refusing to bring a clean funding bill to the floor.

You are denying the obvious.

If the precise same thing happened and Trump had been president, you would howl murder that Trump slowed it down. Even today you howl it was republicans and not his administration that dicked around. But I am not talking of just last year, but from the start. Biden dicked around and it was his official policy.

When Putin did it to Crimea, Obama and Biden were in charge. And Putin walked over Ukraine like Hitler did to France in WW2 and nary a complaint came from the democrats.
Putin said, what the hell, "I took Crimea, and have fighters in Ukraine, so why not go since Trump is gone." He knew Biden would not do much to stop Putin. Take just the F16 fighter. Biden denied them to Ukraine. Even when Ukraine got some, not from Biden, but from several other nations who had some. Biden slow walked help. It is like a person was drowning and Biden took 3 years to supply the simple F16 fightrer that compared to Russias is the real deal. It whips Russias airforce. Biden held off even sending in the tanks Trump positioned in Poland. Trump got Poland ready to help ukraine. But notice Poland is not involved. Biden did not move our tanks to help Ukraine due to Biden holding them back.

 

[Robert W]

Posting counterfactual bullshit is your idea of educating someone?

Were it like yours, no it does not educate others.

 

[berg80]

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You can cut the relevant points you should have gotten out of my post ... But you still don't understand.
Now it's kind of interesting that you want to fight so desperately not to understand ...

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[Robert W]

Are you going to address even a WORD of the fact of Republican obstruction and opposition to Ukraine millitary funding?

Are you too much of a hack to honestly respond?

I will address the administration that dicked off for the entire war, not merely some months of it. Biden could not even persuade Congress to help Zelensky.

 

[berg80]

And Putin walked over Ukraine like Hitler did to France in WW2 and nary a complaint came from the democrats.

You've been reading revisionist history again, Bob.

 

[Robert W]

Bob has a tortured relationship with the truth. Always has, always will.

I have a relationship. But I note that several Democrats tell fibs here and think the fibs are truth.

 

[Robert W]

You've been reading revisionist history again, Bob.

Oh hell no. I started studying what Hitler did when I served in our Army in Germany back in 1962-64.

 

[BlackSand]

Yes, you cultists need to huddle together. High fives and knowing winks all around. When you're the only ones who know what the heck you're talking about it's a tip anonymity is your friend.

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Get a clue ... We do know what we are talking about, and you don't ...

The 'huddling together' you describe is an example of a Collective ...
Your desire to think it is necessary for everyone to suffer your insecurities ... Is exactly what makes them work.

See ... You cannot escape its effects in the truest reality ... And you just proved they exist ...
All the while never truly understanding a ******* thing you are talking about ...

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[Robert W]

“Wars are never entirely won or lost by aid packages,” said Seth Jones, president of the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “This requires strategy, force design, force employment, leadership, morale of forces and other things, not just incoming aid.”
But in 2024, Jones also saw no clear strategic objective from the U.S. and European allies. “If the objective is to start to beat back Russian forces or to get a stalemate, then what was given to Ukraine was not sufficient.”
Uncertainty over Ukraine’s war effort has intensified with Trump’s return to power in Washington. His new administration can halt shipments anytime, even those already committed. In his first week in office, Trump froze foreign aid to Ukraine, among many other countries.
He and his congressional backers have made clear they want to cut support for Ukraine, and at a presidential debate he refused to say whether he wanted Ukraine to win. Among his campaign promises was a boast he could end the war in a day. That hasn’t happened, but many Ukrainians fear he’ll impose terms favorable to Russia.
Trump’s Ukraine envoy, Gen. Keith Kellogg, would not say directly whether the administration would continue to send weapons to Ukraine.

If Trump stops all help to Zelensky, say hello to an expanded Russia.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

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Get a clue ... We do know what we are talking about, and you don't ...

The 'huddling together' you describe is an example of a Collective ...
Your desire to think it is necessary for everyone to suffer your insecurities ... Is exactly what makes them work.

See ... You cannot escape its effects in the truest reality ... And you just proved they exist ...
All the while never truly understanding a ******* thing you are talking about ...

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Come on, Black Sand.

You know full well that when it comes to BergIQ8O, resistance is futile.

 

[berg80]

I have a relationship. But I note that several Democrats tell fibs here and think the fibs are truth.

See post #217.

 

[struth]

Yes, you cultists need to huddle together. High fives and knowing winks all around. When you're the only ones who know what the heck you're talking about it's a tip anonymity is your friend.

How many Arab babies are you willing to have your Hamas pals kill in your bigoted quest to own the Jews if Israel?

 

[fncceo]

Atrocities by One Side Do Not Justify Those by the Other

What you mean to say is “repeated atrocities by one side should go unpunished if the other side is Jews”.

 

[BlackSand]

Come on, Black Sand.

You know full well that when it comes to BergIQ8O, resistance is futile.

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Seriously Dog ... I stopped talking to that ****** a long time ago ...

I just use his ignorance and his posts to unfold things in a very abrupt and plain manner ...
In attempts to share and explore ideas ... And directed more at anyone else that might be reading.

Yeah, sure ... It probably won't work ... But I am not interested in giving up and becoming more apathetic.
Sooner or later, they might even learn that I'm really an eternal optimist ... And not near as mean as I come across.

He's not the only one either.

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[Dogmaphobe]

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Seriously Dog ... I stopped talking to that ****** a long time ago ...

I just use his ignorance and his posts to unfold things in a very abrupt and plain manner ...
In attempts to share and explore ideas ... And directed more at anyone else that might be reading.

Yeah, sure ... It probably won't work ... But I am not interested in giving up and becoming more apathetic.
Sooner or later, they might even learn that I'm really an eternal optimist ... And not near as mean as I come across.

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Yeah. There is often a bit of separation between how we come across here, and how we come on across in real life


For instance, I am not nearly the debonair chick magnate in real life as I am here.

 

[berg80]

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You can cut the relevant points you should have gotten out of my post ... But you still don't understand.
Now it's kind of interesting that you want to fight so desperately not to understand ...

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Trump’s Gaza fantasy is a recipe for a forever war​

U.S. President Donald Trump wants to take over Gaza and transform it into the “Riviera of the Middle East” where “the world’s people” can live.

Everyone but Palestinians, that is.

According to Trump’s plan, Palestinians would be displaced, most likely by force, to neighboring countries. And his real-estate deal of the century — treating Gaza like it’s Atlantic City — risks propelling the U.S. into yet another forever war.

This would not be a war triggered by any high-minded ambitions of bringing democracy to the Middle East — it would be a conflict fueled by the fantasies of a property tycoon. It would make the U.S. arguably an even bigger target for every aspiring jihadi group and throw the entire region into greater turbulence, destabilizing allies from Cairo to Riyadh. It could draw U.S. troops on the ground — something Trump hasn’t ruled out — into prolonged urban battles, inviting worldwide condemnation and possibly prosecution, as they clear out Palestinians in a forcible transfer of population.

But as any real-estate developer should know, before you turf out residents and start building, there are NIMBYs to contend with — in this case Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf Arabs. Unsurprisingly, they’re not impressed.

Trump’s Gaza fantasy is a recipe for a forever war

U.S. president is pressing countries to take in Palestinians by threatening to cut aid, but it’s too dangerous for Arab leaders to accept that blackmail.

www.politico.eu

It's an insane idea going nowhere.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Trump says U.S. will own and develop Gaza, and Palestinians living there should leave​

President Donald Trump on Tuesday evening said the United States “will take over the Gaza Strip,” and “we’ll own it.”

Trump said that all Palestinians currently living in Gaza — around 2 million people — should leave and be placed in other countries in the Middle East, among them Jordan and Egypt, while the U.S. develops the territory.


Ministers of those and other Arab countries several days ago flatly rejected the idea of accepting Gaza residents.

Gaza has been decimated during a war with its neighbor Israel, which began with the Oct. 7, 2023, attack by the terror group Hamas.

“Gaza is a hellhole,” Trump said at the White House during a joint news conference with Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The former New York real estate developer later suggested that Gaza eventually could be “the Riviera of the Middle East,” where “the world’s people” could make their homes.

“I do see a long-term ownership position,” Trump said when asked if he envisioned a permanent U.S. occupation of Gaza.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/04/trump-says-us-will-own-and-develop-gaza-strip.html

It's going to be awesome. Imagine a big trump Tower on the ground where thousands of Palestinians were slaughtered by the IDF. The "world's people" could make their homes there. Except for, you know, those Palestinians who lived there. They have to go.

I think Don forgot for a moment he isn't a real estate developer any longer. But I bet Jared, with the billions the Saudi's gave him to invest, is eager to break ground.

How about we split in half and put Trump's idea to work on one half and you Leftists take the other half and try their same old thing that hasn't worked for 50 years?

 

[BlackSand]

Trump’s Gaza fantasy is a recipe for a forever war​

It's an insane idea going nowhere.

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Yeah ... Kind of like the current policies that have provided us with 7 decades of tragedy, misery, ruin and death.

I'm welcome to entertain whatever you think will help outside of total capitulation to the folks that just don't want to get along.
Not saying that we couldn't just leave them to their own demise ... But there's no need to discuss that because that plan is simple.
Now if you want to start picking sides ... Then that is a whole different story.

Give it a shot ... Whatcha got?

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