How Does The Left Define Murder?

[frigidweirdo]

Are you Biden's teleprompter writer or Kamala's?

Nope, I'm educated.

Amendment II: House of Representatives, Amendments to the Constitution

"but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms."

They were looking at the clause of the future Second Amendment in the House in 1789

So, they were worried the feds would compel people to "bear arms". Are you suggesting they'd compel people to defend themselves?

Mr Gerry (of gerrymandering fame) said: "Now, I am apprehensive, sir, that this clause would give an opportunity to the people in power to destroy the constitution itself. They can declare who are those religiously scrupulous, and prevent them from bearing arms."

The Mr Gerry said: "Now, if we give a discretionary power to exclude those from militia duty who have religious scruples, we may as well make no provision on this head."

So, he used "bearing arms" and "militia duty" synonymously. Why?

"Mr. Jackson was willing to accommodate. He thought the expression was, "No one, religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service, in person, upon paying an equivalent.""

Mr Jackson used "bear arms" synonymously with "render military service"

Now, you go find me a document that shows that the 2A was about individual self defense, because ALL the historical documents suggest the 2A bear arms clause was about protecting the militia by protecting individuals's right to be in the militia and to own weapons the feds could not take off of them.

 

[Road Runner]

Nope, I'm educated.

Amendment II: House of Representatives, Amendments to the Constitution

"but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms."

They were looking at the clause of the future Second Amendment in the House in 1789

So, they were worried the feds would compel people to "bear arms". Are you suggesting they'd compel people to defend themselves?

Mr Gerry (of gerrymandering fame) said: "Now, I am apprehensive, sir, that this clause would give an opportunity to the people in power to destroy the constitution itself. They can declare who are those religiously scrupulous, and prevent them from bearing arms."

The Mr Gerry said: "Now, if we give a discretionary power to exclude those from militia duty who have religious scruples, we may as well make no provision on this head."

So, he used "bearing arms" and "militia duty" synonymously. Why?

"Mr. Jackson was willing to accommodate. He thought the expression was, "No one, religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service, in person, upon paying an equivalent.""

Mr Jackson used "bear arms" synonymously with "render military service"

Now, you go find me a document that shows that the 2A was about individual self defense, because ALL the historical documents suggest the 2A bear arms clause was about protecting the militia by protecting individuals's right to be in the militia and to own weapons the feds could not take off of them.

I still don't have a clue what you're talking about as the second amendment includes both the rights to beat arms and defend ourselves.

 

[Papageorgio]

How it is determined and how it is charged is dependent upon jurisdiction.

I agree it is unlawfully killing another person, that is why the death penalty is not considered murder.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I still don't have a clue what you're talking about as the second amendment includes both the rights to beat arms and defend ourselves.

Maybe if you read what I wrote with an open mind.

If you look at the 2A, it starts with "A well regulated militia..." what do you think it's talking about? Protecting the militia, or self defense of individuals?

Also, the document I sent you talks about protecting the militia.

Why? Because that's what the 2A is about.

 

[Moonglow]

And homicide committed by illegals but yet the left constantly defends them even though they claim that they're against murder and violence. It doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

The left doesn't defend murderers that immigrate here any more than the right defends murderers that migrate during a Republican led government. Your logic is extremely bias and illogical.

 

[Coyote]

so if you are for abortion, you support the death penalty and owning firearms, right?

Nope. I’m not pro-life or pro-death.

 

[skews13]

Murder is the intentionally killing of a person. So the real question is how you define "person". Traditionally, we've considered the life of a person to begin at birth. That's sort of point of the term "birth" - the beginning of personhood. But the twat police want more control than that affords them.

Which is how their "good book" defines it to.

But that's not the point.

We're talking about weak, ball less cuck conservative men here.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Nope. I’m not pro-life or pro-death.

Ignoring the statement, if you claim pro-life is something then I claim abortion supporters are something that is besides the fact of what either of us support it is a blanket statement. And I know you don't believe abortionists are the things I listed and so it is to prove you are an idiot for making a blanket statement about someone else's beliefs.

 

[talksalot]

Right. That's why I specified "person". "Life" is a continuous process.

I wouldn't know. I don't know any "pro-abortion" people.

Life means ALIVE. It's the opposite of Dead. A human fetus is alive until it's aborted.

You know at least one pro-abortion person.....YOU.

 

[dblack]

Life means ALIVE. It's the opposite of Dead. A human fetus is alive until it's aborted.

You know at least one pro-abortion person.....YOU.

LOL - mkay.