How do you detain a criminal at gun point?

'He said to them, But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.' Luke 22:36
You pluck the strings of my old catechism black heart Missouri ~S~
 
I've pulled my firearm to end a threat that wasn't a threat of imminent death or grievous bodily harm.

The guy never saw the firearm...but he saw me pull it...and it immediately changed his behavior.

He called the police. I explained the situation...and if you want to hear about it, I'll tell you, but it's not important to the post.

Sometimes you can diffuse a situation with a firearm without pulling the trigger.

But that's not even the most important facet of this encounter.

I read this very article from Massad Ayoob...




And I haven't carried a black pistol since.

This particular day I was just running to Walmart and had a Bond Arms Snake Slayer stainless double barreled derringer. Very distinctive.

So when the guy told the police I pointed a gun at him...I asked the officer to have him describe it.

"It was black... that's all I remember."

And I was free to go.
Yup. I carry a S&W Model 640. Same reason.
 
I don't want to hurt peeps , i was in EMS for decades trying to help peeps.

I live out in redneck central, all i saw was folks that were shot.......

That said, i built my existence on up from a hole in the ground on up, i wont on my turf be confronted or challenged

and if you think you can put me down, you'll need to get by my wife next who's a red headed scott full of more 'hell hath no fury' than i can possibly express here

~S~
 
Don't try it in NY even if your life is in danger. They will try to put you in prison for a freaking choke hold.
 
If my home is invaded, I will retreat to my bedroom, lock door, crouch behind bed, draw weapon, point it at the door, while dialing 911.

If I'm present when a shooting takes place anywhere else (and I'm packing) I will retreat as far away as possible from the event. If I'm in a building I will hide myself as best I can, draw my weapon and prepare to defend myself. I will not risk my life to save someone else.
so youre going to leave your family with the bad guy while you hide,,

sounds like a solid plan,, NOT,,
 
so youre going to leave your family with the bad guy while you hide,,

sounds like a solid plan,, NOT,,

I live alone, but back in the day when our liberal mayor wanted to ban handguns in the city, I made this sarcastic drawing and sent it to him and all the members of the liberal Common Council. The proposal went down to resounding defeat.
Support the ban.webp
 
I live alone, but back in the day when our liberal mayor wanted to ban handguns in the city, I made this sarcastic drawing and sent it to him and all the members of the liberal Common Council. The proposal went down to resounding defeat.
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reminds me of women that refuse to report rapist and they go out and rape someone else when they could have put a stop to it,,
 
Former Marines and Vets might have more experience and better concept of the law than the transgender police recruits today but the law is not on your side and you best walk away from a crime in progress and try to remember the details.
 
Former Marines and Vets might have more experience and better concept of the law than the transgender police recruits today but the law is not on your side and you best walk away from a crime in progress and try to remember the details.
no disrespect towards the military,

they are trained to kill people and break things not enforce civilian law,,
thats why they would make bad cops,,

the problem is civilian cops arent taught the law or constitution and trained to be government enforcers,,
 
Most criminals are smart enough to run away, or surrender when faced with an armed victim.........about 200 a year are terminally stupid and end up in the morgue....

But...

If you are forced to defend yourself and you end up with one or more idiots at gun point as you wait for the police........how do you coral them so they can't continue to attack?

If they run away, that is one thing....do not shoot them as they run.....but you may be facing them for a few minutes or more until the police arrive....

Do you have them lay on the ground? Do you have them kneel? Hands on their head or if they are on the ground out to the side?

Just wondering...

For our European friends....you will simply be a victim, beaten, robbed, or raped, so this thread doesn't really apply to you....
Shoot his kneecaps?
 
Former Marines and Vets might have more experience and better concept of the law than the transgender police recruits today but the law is not on your side and you best walk away from a crime in progress and try to remember the details.
Don't need and Fag Police.
 
Most criminals are smart enough to run away, or surrender when faced with an armed victim.........about 200 a year are terminally stupid and end up in the morgue....

But...

If you are forced to defend yourself and you end up with one or more idiots at gun point as you wait for the police........how do you coral them so they can't continue to attack?

If they run away, that is one thing....do not shoot them as they run.....but you may be facing them for a few minutes or more until the police arrive....

Do you have them lay on the ground? Do you have them kneel? Hands on their head or if they are on the ground out to the side?

Just wondering...

For our European friends....you will simply be a victim, beaten, robbed, or raped, so this thread doesn't really apply to you....
This is what I don't understand. As a criminal, I KNOW a decent "good guy" can't shoot me in the back. I'm smart enough to not attack a man with a gun, but I can leave and you won't do a thing about it. Trying to physically detain a thug wouldn't be a good idea. The gun is only useful if I'm dumb enough to attack you
 
enjoy the rest of your life in jail,,

and serious member of the gun community do not condone shooting people in the back as theyre running away,,
If you shoot them right as they try to rob/kill/rape..etc, they won't have the time to run away. So any shots you put in them, will constitute self-defense and (probably) won't land you in jail.

Jedi is correct, if you pull out your gun but don't shoot, you can get into legal trouble.
 
If you shoot them right as they try to rob/kill/rape..etc, they won't have the time to run away. So any shots you put in them, will constitute self-defense and (probably) won't land you in jail.

Jedi is correct, if you pull out your gun but don't shoot, you can get into legal trouble.
so you will just shoot person in the back or with their hands up,,

like I said,,
enjoy the rest of your life in jail,,
 
so you will just shoot person in the back or with their hands up,,

like I said,,
enjoy the rest of your life in jail,,
I didn't say to shoot someone who has their hands up. I said shoot as they try to rob/kill/rape. You know, when they are in the process of committing a grievous crime.

You sound like you just want to have a problem.
 
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