How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[JohnDB]

In the upper atmosphere....the heat from the earth exchanges the heat through this atmosphere into the vastness of outer space...and is gone. Heat is energy after all.

And the heat we can bleed off is at a steady rate not limitless. But have we reached a critical level yet? No.
Are we heading for a critical level?
Possibly.
CO² levels are well inside of tolerances. Too high and we choke to death and all plant life dies....so as far as levels high enough to cause a greenhouse effect? We would be dead long before we get there.

So....
From the models we have seen....actually it's liberal Democrats causing the problems. It's not the farms and rural communities....it's the big cities that are full of high rise apartment buildings that hold heat. The cities hold an extra 5-10° at night (Not really disputed information) while the rural areas cool off immediately. Trying to create green space inside the cities doesn't help whatsoever. In fact green energies to this point have been anything but green.

Peak oil is still 50+ years away from any draconian measure. However, it was brought up that we should do every thing possible to control pollution by bringing businesses here to the USA where we have jurisdiction and can control.

 

[Grumblenuts]

CO² levels are well inside of tolerances. Too high and we choke to death and all plant life dies....so as far as levels high enough to cause a greenhouse effect? We would be dead long before we get there.

The greenhouse effect has nothing to do with us choking to death. The rest of your post also makes little sense.

 

[EMH]

The cities hold an extra 5-10° at night (Not really disputed information)

That is the only real data supported "warming" the Co2 FRAUD has. The rest is all FUDGE.

Earth climate data still reads precisely

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE

 

[JohnDB]

The greenhouse effect has nothing to do with us choking to death. The rest of your post also makes little sense.

It's the ongoing use of energy that causes any sort of warming. It's momentary at best. It is on a scale with large cities to cause some localized, temporary warming.
It is not sufficient to cause major climate shifts.
People perceive the earth only moving in three directions at the same time. That's not true. It's moving in at least ten. And all current climate models do not account for that. We are moving in an elliptical path around our sun (which is also moving) and at times we move closer and others further away.

What petroleum products do is help fund some countries with purposes that are contrary with our own. (Like Iran and Russia)
So using less oil they produce is very beneficial.
However, America cannot pump more. Our resources of petroleum are drying up. (Permian Basin has been mostly drained)
Gulf oil is still going well but it too is slowing down. The wells towards deeper and deeper water are what's left.

We currently have lots of Natural gas and coal. Most coal is yellow coal which is unusable unless put through ampharesis processes which turns it into diesel.

Coal usually has mercury...which is a deadly toxin causing all sorts of havoc with the environment. Scrubbers for emissions makes it too expensive for the energy output.
Nuclear requires fuel too. And uranium mining and refinement is another dirty process with radon gas. The power plant also causes a brown site that lasts generations. Impossible to clean up. Most nuclear fuel was mined and created in Ukraine. Texas, AZ, and New Mexico have some....but again it's a dirty business to mine it out. Pumping boric acid into the ground and then pumping the pregnant solution back out. It destroys water tables and drinking water. The power plants are targets for our nation's enemies to get more damage than what they themselves can produce.

Solar panels are dirty as they come. Silicon refinement to make the panel semiconductors is one of the nastiest processes chemists have designed. Then one hailstorm and they are destroyed. The chemical plant fire in Georgia should be a clue.

 

[Grumblenuts]

My intent was not to encourage more of the same..

 

[Unkotare]

Spazzing.... Nurse, security, we have a forced meds case...


Well, considering that EMH and just EMH and only EMH has been pushing Land Near the Poles theory for years, and that theory starts with the following observation...

All land inside of 600 miles to an Earth pole is IN ICE AGE, and all land outside is NOT


HMMMMMM

Take this scum away, security...

Headcase ^^^ is obsessed. Note that it only talks about one of three topics EVER.

 

[abu afak]

....And the heat we can bleed off is at a steady rate not limitless. But have we reached a critical level yet? No.
Are we heading for a critical level?
Possibly.
CO² levels are well inside of tolerances. Too high and we choke to death and all plant life dies....so as far as levels high enough to cause a greenhouse effect? We would be dead long before we get there.

So....
From the models we have seen....actually it's liberal Democrats causing the problems. It's not the farms and rural communities....it's the big cities that are full of high rise apartment buildings that hold heat. The cities hold an extra 5-10° at night (Not really disputed information) while the rural areas cool off immediately. Trying to create green space inside the cities doesn't help whatsoever. In fact green energies to this point have been anything but green. ...

Critical for what Clown Boy?
800-1000 PPM probably won't kill anyone or anything per se, but it will warm the earth significantly more.

The last time we got over 400 PPM sea level was 50' higher. (we're in the oven now, just waiting to cook thru. Lag).

Way before you think we've reached 'tolerance' to merely stay alive the Poles and Greenland will melt raising sea level 240' .. causing destruction of coastal life/cities etc, as well as significant loss of land mass.

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[EMH]

Headcase ^^^ is obsessed. Note that it only talks about one of three topics EVER.

Well, since you are such the religious climate change "expert," how about answering a few basic climate questions for us...

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



Problem = IQ over 5 required

 

[ding]

Well, since you are such the religious climate change "expert," how about answering a few basic climate questions for us...

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



Problem = IQ over 5 required

Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly?

 

[EMH]

Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly?

Why is the Arctic Circle on average 50F warmer than the Antarctic Circle?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why is the Arctic Circle on average 50F warmer than the Antarctic Circle?

Is it the Jews? The CIA?

 

[EMH]

Maybe because the one with 90% of Earth ice is colder than the one with less than 10%...????

 

[EMH]

Critical for what Clown Boy?
800-1000 PPM probably won't kill anyone or anything per se, but it will warm the earth significantly more.

The last time we got over 400 PPM sea level was 50' higher. (we're in the oven now, just waiting to cook thru. Lag).

Way before you think we've reached 'tolerance' to merely stay alive the Poles and Greenland will melt raising sea level 240' .. causing destruction of coastal life/cities etc, as well as significant loss of land mass.

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But, of course, do date, you cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO documenting "ocean rise" because

there is no ocean rise because there is no ongoing net ice melt because planet Earth is NOT warming...

 

[ding]

Why is the Arctic Circle on average 50F warmer than the Antarctic Circle?

I asked first. Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly?

 

[EMH]

I asked first. Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly?

How could I possibly not if I notice the Arctic is warmer than the Antarctic....

YOU ARE A MORON!!!

 

[ding]

How could I possibly not if I notice the Arctic is warmer than the Antarctic....

YOU ARE A MORON!!!

Because that has nothing to do with why it isn't. Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly BY THE SUN?

 

[EMH]

Because that has nothing to do with why it is. Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly?

So why is the Arctic Circle so much warmer than the Antarctic Circle??

 

[ding]

So why is the Arctic Circle so much warmer than the Antarctic Circle??

I asked first. Do you understand that the surface of the planet is not heated evenly? Yes or no.

 

[abu afak]

But, of course, do date, you cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO documenting "ocean rise" because

there is no ocean rise because there is no ongoing net ice melt because planet Earth is NOT warming...

Since no one is claiming the Ocean has risen more than app 1+' in the last century, any picture would show much less than the low to high tide lines that are probably at least 3'-4' different in most places. (Sometimes much more.) (ever been to the beach?)
So any picture would be irrelevant unless it mentioned the high and low tide, and time of year as well.

You are Both Stupid and Profoundly Mentally ill.
Don't hog the keyboard. Give the other patients a turn.
(Maybe they should make EMH a mod too! He's part of the largest contingent here)
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[EMH]

Since no one is claiming the Ocean has risen more than app 1+' in the last century, any picture would show much less than the low to high tide lines that are probably at least 3'-4' different in most places. (Sometimes much more.) (ever been to the beach?)
So any picture would be irrelevant unless it mentioned the high and low tide, and time of year as well.

You are Both Stupid and Profoundly Mentally ill.
Don't hog the keyboard. Give the other patients a turn.
(Maybe they should make EMH a mod too! He's part of the largest contingent here)
`

Laughable...

All old photos were taken at high tide.... what unreal Co2 FRAUD BULLSHIT