how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

[Hutch Starskey]

Because there is no standard or precident to do so.

...or there are none

Yes, of course. That must be it.

My point is all of this sort of thing is personal whether it be medical, financial or anything else of a personal nature...

So why was Trump asking for documentation from the first black president that has not been asked of any other?

I think the federal government has no business in anyone's personal business, it's like letting the fox in the hen house

Great. That changes nothing.

 

[Rustic]

...or there are none

Yes, of course. That must be it.

My point is all of this sort of thing is personal whether it be medical, financial or anything else of a personal nature...

So why was Trump asking for documentation from the first black president that has not been asked of any other?

I think the federal government has no business in anyone's personal business, it's like letting the fox in the hen house

Great. That changes nothing.

Only thing worse than nationalism is globalism

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes, of course. That must be it.

My point is all of this sort of thing is personal whether it be medical, financial or anything else of a personal nature...

So why was Trump asking for documentation from the first black president that has not been asked of any other?

I think the federal government has no business in anyone's personal business, it's like letting the fox in the hen house

Great. That changes nothing.

Only thing worse than nationalism is globalism

Your future looks bleak then.

 

[Syriusly]

...or there are none

Yes, of course. That must be it.

My point is all of this sort of thing is personal whether it be medical, financial or anything else of a personal nature...

The progressive nutters want to tell everybody what is personal and what is not for them… ******* control freaks

Nice pivot in your narrative.
Another fallback in a losing battle.

You're the one deflecting, why do you progressives want all this personal information of people you disagree with?

In a thread about Donald Trump attacking President Obama because Trump demanded personal information from President Obama- your post is richly ironic.

 

[Syriusly]

Because there is no standard or precident to do so.

...or there are none

Yes, of course. That must be it.

Of course, The Blamer's college records would have never listed him as a foreign exchange student - right?
Would have made him ineligible to run for the presidency - right?
Probably a valid reason not to release them - right?
Why not just release them to remove any doubt - right?

He's a U.S. citizen from birth, get over it. There is no precedent for a President to release his college transcripts. You wingnuts can demand it all day long and play your hypocrisy game it doesn't really matter, nothing changes.

Where as with Trump a majority of voters actually want to see his tax returns and there is a lot of precedent for him to release them.

You morons are thick, real thick.

Only a fucked up control freak would want to see personal information, that being medical, financial or anything else personal...

So you think that Donald Trump is a fucked up control freak?

Maybe

 

[Syriusly]

So when in 2011, Donald Trump started lying about Barack Obama's birth certificate- what was his motivation- if it was not race?

He's an incompetent socialist?
Why didn't The Blamer release his college transcripts?
WHY?

Because there is no standard or precident to do so.

...or there are none

Yes, of course. That must be it.

Of course, The Blamer's college records would have never listed him as a foreign exchange student - right?
Would have made him ineligible to run for the presidency - right?
Probably a valid reason not to release them - right?
Why not just release them to remove any doubt - right?

Hmmm I haven't thought about Donald Trump possibly being a foriegn exchange student- is that why Trump is refusing to release his college records?

Why doesn't Trump release them to remove any doubt?

 

[Ame®icano]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

It wasn't racism when Hillary's camp did it. Once others picked it up, everyone but Hillary turns into racist.

 

[Syriusly]

And by 'special treatment' Spare means he graduated law school while being black.

Both Barack Obama and George Bush went to Harvard- Obama for law, Bush for his masters.

Guess what- neither decided to show you his transcripts.

Of course now one expected that Bush got special treatment in Harvard........the son of a wealthy family would never get special treatment.......

No, getting in because he's black. That's special treatment.

So getting special treatment because your family is wealthy is wrong but getting special treatment because of your skin color isn't.

Smells like hypocrisy.

The difference is that no one accused Bush of getting special treatment because his family was wealthy.

But lots of people accused Obama of getting special treatment- because Barack Obama is black.

Think this through- If Obama was not black- these people would not be accusing him of getting special treatment because of his skin color- their accusations are about his race- not because there is ANY evidence he got any special treatment.

They just assume that a black man must have gotten special treatment to get into Harvard Law.

 

[Syriusly]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

It wasn't racism when Hillary's camp did it. Once others picked it up, everyone but Hillary turns into racist.

Still not once did Hillary clinton question President Obama's place of birth.

Donald TRump questioned Obama place of birth for 5 years- even after he saw his birth certificate AND even after Hawaii said he was born there.

If it wasn't because of race- why did Trump lie?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

PC Magic

The race card is a Joker. It can be used to make a weak hand look strong.

 

[Syriusly]

So when in 2011, Donald Trump started lying about Barack Obama's birth certificate- what was his motivation- if it was not race?

He's an incompetent socialist?
Why didn't The Blamer release his college transcripts?
WHY?

Why didn't Trump release his college transcripts?

Probably the same reason no other Presidential candidate has voluntarily released his transcripts.

Now tax returns are another thing- President Obama and virtually every Presidential candidate EXCEPT Trump have released their tax returns.

Oops.
You forgot to answer the question.

Answered it completely- you asked' Why didn't the Blamer-and no one is a blamer more than Donald Trump- release his college transcripts

Why didn't Trump release his college transcripts?

Probably the same reason no other Presidential candidate has voluntarily released his transcripts.

Now tax returns are another thing- President Obama and virtually every Presidential candidate EXCEPT Trump have released their tax returns.

Well, allow me to rephrase so that even an armstretched libstain as yourself might understand:
Why didn't your majesty Hussein "The Blamer" Obama release his college transcripts?

I don't know who you are speaking about.

President Obama didn't release his college transcripts because it is a very unpresidential thing to do- no presidents voluntarily release their birth certificates.

Why do you think that our first black President is the only President who is obliged to show his college records?

 

[Ame®icano]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

It wasn't racism when Hillary's camp did it. Once others picked it up, everyone but Hillary turns into racist.

Still not once did Hillary clinton question President Obama's place of birth.

Donald TRump questioned Obama place of birth for 5 years- even after he saw his birth certificate AND even after Hawaii said he was born there.

If it wasn't because of race- why did Trump lie?

Right, her campaign did it, not her. Her hands are clean, although she most likely personally requested it to exploit the possibility.

Her campaign did it. She did it. Once caught, she fired "those responsible". Someone always takes a virtual or real bullet for Hillary. One for the team.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

So when the 2008 clinton campaign decided to subtly paint obama as "his roots to basic American and values and culture are at best limited", and pushed his "lack of American roots", her supporters circulating an email implying that he wasn't born in Hawaii, Bob Kerrey using obama's full name (hussein), talking about him being muslim, saying that "people are acting as if he's an islamic Manchurian candidate" -- that was because he's black. Right?

Apparently they were so subtle about it that there is no evidence they actually did it.

Now, how does that in any way absolve Trump from building his political fortunes on the birther nonsense for five years after the release of the long form?

Evidence posted, you choose to ignore it.

Where did I say that it did?

 

[Zoom-boing]

Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

So when the 2008 clinton campaign decided to subtly paint obama as "his roots to basic American and values and culture are at best limited", and pushed his "lack of American roots", her supporters circulating an email implying that he wasn't born in Hawaii, Bob Kerrey using obama's full name (hussein), talking about him being muslim, saying that "people are acting as if he's an islamic Manchurian candidate" -- that was because he's black. Right?

Huh? What email did the Hillary campaign send that implied Obama was not born in Hawaii?

You know, I've lost count of how many times I've told you to READ WHAT I ACTUALLY POSTED. ******* moron.

Scuse me.... Hillary's supporters....

Still no answer.... what email did Hillary supporters send to imply Obama was not born in Hawaii? The only such email I saw were sent anonymously with no way of identifying the sender.

You know, it would do you well to actually read what I've already posted instead of constantly asking, because I've already provided this answer.

"The idea that Obama was born elsewhere, specifically Kenya, was first floated in April 2008, according to a 22 April 2011 Politico article by Ben Smith and Byron Tau on the origins of birtherism:

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous e-mail questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.

That Hillary Clinton supporters circulated such an e-mail isn't in question, but the claim that that's the moment the birther theory "first emerged" simply isn't true. The likeliest point of origin we've been able to find was a post on conservative message board FreeRepublic.com dated 1 March 2008 (which, according to a report in The Telegraph, was at least a month before Clinton supporters got on the e-mail bandwagon)."

Did Clinton Supporters Start the 'Birther' Movement?

 

[Faun]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

It wasn't racism when Hillary's camp did it. Once others picked it up, everyone but Hillary turns into racist.

Still not once did Hillary clinton question President Obama's place of birth.

Donald TRump questioned Obama place of birth for 5 years- even after he saw his birth certificate AND even after Hawaii said he was born there.

If it wasn't because of race- why did Trump lie?

Right, her campaign did it, not her. Her hands are clean, although she most likely personally requested it to exploit the possibility.

Her campaign did it. She did it. Once caught, she fired "those responsible". Someone always takes a virtual or real bullet for Hillary. One for the team.

No, her campaign never said Obama was born in Kenya.

 

[Zoom-boing]

And by 'special treatment' Spare means he graduated law school while being black.

Both Barack Obama and George Bush went to Harvard- Obama for law, Bush for his masters.

Guess what- neither decided to show you his transcripts.

Of course now one expected that Bush got special treatment in Harvard........the son of a wealthy family would never get special treatment.......

No, getting in because he's black. That's special treatment.

So getting special treatment because your family is wealthy is wrong but getting special treatment because of your skin color isn't.

Smells like hypocrisy.

The difference is that no one accused Bush of getting special treatment because his family was wealthy.

But lots of people accused Obama of getting special treatment- because Barack Obama is black.

Think this through- If Obama was not black- these people would not be accusing him of getting special treatment because of his skin color- their accusations are about his race- not because there is ANY evidence he got any special treatment.

They just assume that a black man must have gotten special treatment to get into Harvard Law.

His grades from Occidental were crap yet he got into Harvard. But no special treatment. Uh huh.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And by 'special treatment' Spare means he graduated law school while being black.

Both Barack Obama and George Bush went to Harvard- Obama for law, Bush for his masters.

Guess what- neither decided to show you his transcripts.

Of course now one expected that Bush got special treatment in Harvard........the son of a wealthy family would never get special treatment.......

No, getting in because he's black. That's special treatment.

So getting special treatment because your family is wealthy is wrong but getting special treatment because of your skin color isn't.

Smells like hypocrisy.

The difference is that no one accused Bush of getting special treatment because his family was wealthy.

But lots of people accused Obama of getting special treatment- because Barack Obama is black.

Think this through- If Obama was not black- these people would not be accusing him of getting special treatment because of his skin color- their accusations are about his race- not because there is ANY evidence he got any special treatment.

They just assume that a black man must have gotten special treatment to get into Harvard Law.

Name and complexion. It's that simple.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

PC Magic

The race card is a Joker. It can be used to make a weak hand look strong.

It can be used equally well by a fool.
Well played sir.

 

[Faun]

So when the 2008 clinton campaign decided to subtly paint obama as "his roots to basic American and values and culture are at best limited", and pushed his "lack of American roots", her supporters circulating an email implying that he wasn't born in Hawaii, Bob Kerrey using obama's full name (hussein), talking about him being muslim, saying that "people are acting as if he's an islamic Manchurian candidate" -- that was because he's black. Right?

Huh? What email did the Hillary campaign send that implied Obama was not born in Hawaii?

You know, I've lost count of how many times I've told you to READ WHAT I ACTUALLY POSTED. ******* moron.

Scuse me.... Hillary's supporters....

Still no answer.... what email did Hillary supporters send to imply Obama was not born in Hawaii? The only such email I saw were sent anonymously with no way of identifying the sender.

You know, it would do you well to actually read what I've already posted instead of constantly asking, because I've already provided this answer.

"The idea that Obama was born elsewhere, specifically Kenya, was first floated in April 2008, according to a 22 April 2011 Politico article by Ben Smith and Byron Tau on the origins of birtherism:

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous e-mail questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.

That Hillary Clinton supporters circulated such an e-mail isn't in question, but the claim that that's the moment the birther theory "first emerged" simply isn't true. The likeliest point of origin we've been able to find was a post on conservative message board FreeRepublic.com dated 1 March 2008 (which, according to a report in The Telegraph, was at least a month before Clinton supporters got on the e-mail bandwagon)."

Did Clinton Supporters Start the 'Birther' Movement?

Right, that's the article I saw which idiotically identifies "anonymous" folks as Hillary supporters and erroneously claims that was when birtherism began.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

It wasn't racism when Hillary's camp did it. Once others picked it up, everyone but Hillary turns into racist.

Still not once did Hillary clinton question President Obama's place of birth.

Donald TRump questioned Obama place of birth for 5 years- even after he saw his birth certificate AND even after Hawaii said he was born there.

If it wasn't because of race- why did Trump lie?

Right, her campaign did it, not her. Her hands are clean, although she most likely personally requested it to exploit the possibility.

Her campaign did it. She did it. Once caught, she fired "those responsible". Someone always takes a virtual or real bullet for Hillary. One for the team.

The campaign did not. She did not.
Try again fool.