How come when there is a shooting, idiots say we need to ban guns and the NRA

[JoeB131]

Bush inherited a mess from Clinton(but didn't complain) and tried to fix the mini recession from MCI/WorldCom, Enron, DotCom bubble burst.

Yeah, Bush inherited 4% unemployment, 200 billion dollar surpluses, Peace, Prosperity........ what a fucking mess.

The 1%ers couldn't have that, so he fucked that up pretty quickly, bringing us wars, recessions, deficits and so on.

 

[JoeB131]

When Hitler took the guns away from his citizens 6,000,000 Jews paid for it.

Uh, I think you are a little confused. Hitler never too guns away from his citizens, who were more than happy to kill the Jews. You guys pretend that Germans didn't hate the Jews before 1933. Wrong. Anti-Semitism is pretty much hard-wired into the German culture.

When Stalin took away the guns from his citizens, 11,000,000 Ukrainians died.

So, um, the Ukranians needed their guns to farm? Actually, it was quite the opposite, the famine of the 1920's happened because the Ukrainians had plenty of guns and kept their part of the USSR at war from the end of WWI until about 1922. They just didn't get around to like, growing food.

When Mau Zedong took the guns away from his citizens, 22,000,000 Chinese ended up dead.

Not really. And it's "Mao Zedong". Again, need to turn off the hate radio and pick up a history book.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Bush inherited a mess from Clinton(but didn't complain) and tried to fix the mini recession from MCI/WorldCom, Enron, DotCom bubble burst.

Yeah, Bush inherited 4% unemployment, 200 billion dollar surpluses, Peace, Prosperity........ what a fucking mess.

The 1%ers couldn't have that, so he fucked that up pretty quickly, bringing us wars, recessions, deficits and so on.

CNN.com - Robert Novak: Clinton-cooked books? - August 9, 2002

WASHINGTON—The Commerce Department's painful report last week that the national economy is worse than anticipated obscured the document's startling revelation. Hidden in the morass of statistics, there is proof that the Clinton administration grossly overestimated the strength of the economy leading up to the 2000 election. Did the federal government join Enron and WorldCom in cooking the books?

You are a dipshit(I apologize to dipshits in comparing the intelligence of the liberal to you).

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

When Hitler took the guns away from his citizens 6,000,000 Jews paid for it.

Uh, I think you are a little confused. Hitler never too guns away from his citizens, who were more than happy to kill the Jews. You guys pretend that Germans didn't hate the Jews before 1933. Wrong. Anti-Semitism is pretty much hard-wired into the German culture.

When Stalin took away the guns from his citizens, 11,000,000 Ukrainians died.

So, um, the Ukranians needed their guns to farm? Actually, it was quite the opposite, the famine of the 1920's happened because the Ukrainians had plenty of guns and kept their part of the USSR at war from the end of WWI until about 1922. They just didn't get around to like, growing food.

When Mau Zedong took the guns away from his citizens, 22,000,000 Chinese ended up dead.

Not really. And it's "Mao Zedong". Again, need to turn off the hate radio and pick up a history book.

How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review

In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.

Reminder: Stalin's Firearms Confiscation Was a Tremendous Success for Socialist State (Video) - The Gateway Pundit

Joseph Stalin’s firearms confiscation was a tremendous success for the Socialist state.
This is a shocking reminder on how Stalin was able to control, starve, punish and imprison a defenseless people.

Is there any evidence Chairman Mao restricted or confiscated guns?

as the party penetrated various rural communities, technically only those registered in an "armed unit" (武裝部队) or "armed cadres" (武裝幹部) should be armed. In the postwar period, these would either retain their weapons and become part of the army, or surrender them when their units were dissolved.

You fuckers have been trying to change history since Woodrow Wilson took office. Try to make liberalism look appealing, and when you fuckers overstep your bounds, then the people cant stand you and move more to the right, in the hope someone can save the country from disaster. Now go play in a busy intersection and remove your CO2 footprint and save the world.

 

[JoeB131]

You are a dipshit(I apologize to dipshits in comparing the intelligence of the liberal to you).

So Novak, a conservative creep, tried to claim the first recession that happened on Bush's watch wasn't Bush's fault a year later?.

This is your argument ?

you just aren't very smart, are you?

 

[JoeB131]

You fuckers have been trying to change history since Woodrow Wilson took office. Try to make liberalism look appealing, and when you fuckers overstep your bounds, then the people cant stand you and move more to the right, in the hope someone can save the country from disaster. Now go play in a busy intersection and remove your CO2 footprint and save the world.

Naw, we are saving plenty of CO2 by having a million glorious abortions every year.

People aren't moving to the right, guy. When it comes to the social issues, you are losing on all of them- abortion, gay marriage, etc.

And people will get tired of you gun nuts as well. It's why you piss yourself every time there's a mass shooting.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You are a dipshit(I apologize to dipshits in comparing the intelligence of the liberal to you).

So Novak, a conservative creep, tried to claim the first recession that happened on Bush's watch wasn't Bush's fault a year later?.

This is your argument ?

you just aren't very smart, are you?

Smarter than you dumbass, you who voted for Hope and Change not once but twice, and the Rich are definitely richer and the poor , poorer. Why is it after 6 3/4 years of the ultimate liberal, there are more murders in the inner cities where blacks are killing blacks, you dipshits want gun control, but these cities have the most strictest gun laws on the books? Because you are "STUPID".

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You fuckers have been trying to change history since Woodrow Wilson took office. Try to make liberalism look appealing, and when you fuckers overstep your bounds, then the people cant stand you and move more to the right, in the hope someone can save the country from disaster. Now go play in a busy intersection and remove your CO2 footprint and save the world.

Naw, we are saving plenty of CO2 by having a million glorious abortions every year.

People aren't moving to the right, guy. When it comes to the social issues, you are losing on all of them- abortion, gay marriage, etc.

And people will get tired of you gun nuts as well. It's why you piss yourself every time there's a mass shooting.

Naw, we are saving plenty of CO2 by having a million glorious abortions every year.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Opening page - Dedication



“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

Joe, you just better hope that there is no HELL, for you surely are a candidate for eternity. Maybe you are right, but what if you are wrong?

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, you just better hope that there is no HELL, for you surely are a candidate for eternity. Maybe you are right, but what if you are wrong?

So my choices are burning in hell for all eternity or kissing God's ass for all eternity. (Seriously, the Bible God is like a needy girlfriend.) Those aren't great choices, guy.

Frankly, you are the one who seems angry all the time at people who disagree with you. Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Joe, you just better hope that there is no HELL, for you surely are a candidate for eternity. Maybe you are right, but what if you are wrong?

So my choices are burning in hell for all eternity or kissing God's ass for all eternity. (Seriously, the Bible God is like a needy girlfriend.) Those aren't great choices, guy.

Frankly, you are the one who seems angry all the time at people who disagree with you. Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

bigotry
[big-uh-tree] /ˈbɪg ə tri/

• Synonyms
• Examples
• Word Origin

noun, plural bigotries.
1.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2.
the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot

Ah yes, the liberal BIGOTRY, shows its ugly face once again.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Joe, you just better hope that there is no HELL, for you surely are a candidate for eternity. Maybe you are right, but what if you are wrong?

So my choices are burning in hell for all eternity or kissing God's ass for all eternity. (Seriously, the Bible God is like a needy girlfriend.) Those aren't great choices, guy.

Frankly, you are the one who seems angry all the time at people who disagree with you. Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

Why isn't shooting in Oregon a hate crime?

hy didn't President Obama call the Oregon shootings a hate crime, even though victims were asked if they were Christian before they were murdered? Is there a selective process to determine where the hate is different? Think Fort Hood vs. South Carolina. It feels like the war on Christians is gaining.

You know Joe(of course you do, assholes always know themselves) 9 people in Oregon, who were in their pursuit of happiness, had an ANGRY LIBERAL approached them and in a LIBERAL BIGOTS way, asked them if they were Christians, then shot them dead. I guess you could say those children were aborted outside the womb, and as the fucktard you are, you don't give a damn.

You Tell Em I'm Commin ,And Hell's Commin With Me

Japan woke the sleeping giant, you liberal keep up your WAR ON CHRISTIANTY and you might not like the results, that happened also to Japan.

 

[Richard-H]

Let's see....

Liberals want legislation that prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns.

Conservatives say that liberals want to take their guns away.

Think about it...

What does that say about conservatives?

It says they understand that liberals aren't content with adding laws to "prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns" and do not plan to stop there.

You sound very paranoid! Perhaps delusional. At best it's a whopping assumption that liberals do not plan to stop there...

I guess the whole conservative argument is based on paranoid delusions!

Please note too that it is not necessarily illegal for people with psychological illnesses from owning guns and so you cannot prevent those people for whom it is not from getting guns.

Well, yes, as I said liberals wanted to make it illegal for people with psychological illnesses from owning guns, not that it was illegal at this time...but I guess that I shouldn't expect someone who suffers from paranoid delusions to comprehend a simple statement.

 

[Richard-H]

Let's see....

Liberals want legislation that prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns.

Conservatives say that liberals want to take their guns away.

Think about it...

What does that say about conservatives?

That we are intelligent enough to realize legislation won't stop anybody from getting a gun if they really want one????

Another conservative suffering from paranoid delusions! By the same logic, we should not have any laws!

Does the fact that murder, arson, rape and robbery happen despite that fact that we have laws against them mean that we should not have those laws?

The fact is that like those other crimes, having laws that prevent psychologically ill people from owning guns will severly reduce the instances of guns crimes being committed by those people.


Like those other laws, it would not make a perfect world, but using the perfect to undermine the good is no answer.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let's see....

Liberals want legislation that prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns.

Conservatives say that liberals want to take their guns away.

Think about it...

What does that say about conservatives?

That we are intelligent enough to realize legislation won't stop anybody from getting a gun if they really want one????

Another conservative suffering from paranoid delusions! By the same logic, we should not have any laws!

Does the fact that murder, arson, rape and robbery happen despite that fact that we have laws against them mean that we should not have those laws?

The fact is that like those other crimes, having laws that prevent psychologically ill people from owning guns will severly reduce the instances of guns crimes being committed by those people.


Like those other laws, it would not make a perfect world, but using the perfect to undermine the good is no answer.

Wrong. Those other crimes you speak of do have laws that deter many people from breaking those laws. But if you are a suicidal nut case, are you prepared to obey new gun laws in this country?

Or perhaps you have plans on knocking over a convenience store. Armed robbery with the possibility you may need to shoot and/or kill someone. Do you think the criminal will reconsider because we have a new law that says he's supposed to have a background check?

Very few guns are purchased by the criminal from a gun shop. Fewer (less than 1% ) are purchased from a gun show. But these are your targets for solving this problem?

 

[Richard-H]

Joe, you just better hope that there is no HELL, for you surely are a candidate for eternity. Maybe you are right, but what if you are wrong?

So my choices are burning in hell for all eternity or kissing God's ass for all eternity. (Seriously, the Bible God is like a needy girlfriend.) Those aren't great choices, guy.

Frankly, you are the one who seems angry all the time at people who disagree with you. Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

Why isn't shooting in Oregon a hate crime?

hy didn't President Obama call the Oregon shootings a hate crime, even though victims were asked if they were Christian before they were murdered? Is there a selective process to determine where the hate is different? Think Fort Hood vs. South Carolina. It feels like the war on Christians is gaining.

You know Joe(of course you do, assholes always know themselves) 9 people in Oregon, who were in their pursuit of happiness, had an ANGRY LIBERAL approached them and in a LIBERAL BIGOTS way, asked them if they were Christians, then shot them dead. I guess you could say those children were aborted outside the womb, and as the fucktard you are, you don't give a damn.

You Tell Em I'm Commin ,And Hell's Commin With Me

Japan woke the sleeping giant, you liberal keep up your WAR ON CHRISTIANTY and you might not like the results, that happened also to Japan.

What 'War on Christianity'? You are seriously suffering from paranoid delusions!

I'm both a liberal and a Christian! There is no 'War on Christianity' by liberals.

What there is, is a bunch of Satanic assholes, like yourself, that have done their best to pervert the message of the gospels to spread hate, persecution and support murder.

 

[Richard-H]

Let's see....

Liberals want legislation that prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns.

Conservatives say that liberals want to take their guns away.

Think about it...

What does that say about conservatives?

That we are intelligent enough to realize legislation won't stop anybody from getting a gun if they really want one????

Another conservative suffering from paranoid delusions! By the same logic, we should not have any laws!

Does the fact that murder, arson, rape and robbery happen despite that fact that we have laws against them mean that we should not have those laws?

The fact is that like those other crimes, having laws that prevent psychologically ill people from owning guns will severly reduce the instances of guns crimes being committed by those people.


Like those other laws, it would not make a perfect world, but using the perfect to undermine the good is no answer.

Wrong. Those other crimes you speak of do have laws that deter many people from breaking those laws. But if you are a suicidal nut case, are you prepared to obey new gun laws in this country?

Or perhaps you have plans on knocking over a convenience store. Armed robbery with the possibility you may need to shoot and/or kill someone. Do you think the criminal will reconsider because we have a new law that says he's supposed to have a background check?

Very few guns are purchased by the criminal from a gun shop. Fewer (less than 1% ) are purchased from a gun show. But these are your targets for solving this problem?

A very large percent of the mass murders that have been committed in the last few years are by people who have a documented history of psychological illness. Laws requiring a registry of these people and background checks for both commercial and private gun sales would severely reduce the incidence of both mass murders and single murders.

It's already been proven in numerous countries that gun laws do work!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let's see....

Liberals want legislation that prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns.

Conservatives say that liberals want to take their guns away.

Think about it...

What does that say about conservatives?

That we are intelligent enough to realize legislation won't stop anybody from getting a gun if they really want one????

Another conservative suffering from paranoid delusions! By the same logic, we should not have any laws!

Does the fact that murder, arson, rape and robbery happen despite that fact that we have laws against them mean that we should not have those laws?

The fact is that like those other crimes, having laws that prevent psychologically ill people from owning guns will severly reduce the instances of guns crimes being committed by those people.


Like those other laws, it would not make a perfect world, but using the perfect to undermine the good is no answer.

Wrong. Those other crimes you speak of do have laws that deter many people from breaking those laws. But if you are a suicidal nut case, are you prepared to obey new gun laws in this country?

Or perhaps you have plans on knocking over a convenience store. Armed robbery with the possibility you may need to shoot and/or kill someone. Do you think the criminal will reconsider because we have a new law that says he's supposed to have a background check?

Very few guns are purchased by the criminal from a gun shop. Fewer (less than 1% ) are purchased from a gun show. But these are your targets for solving this problem?

A very large percent of the mass murders that have been committed in the last few years are by people who have a documented history of psychological illness. Laws requiring a registry of these people and background checks for both commercial and private gun sales would severely reduce the incidence of both mass murders and single murders.

It's already been proven in numerous countries that gun laws do work!

No, it hasn't. You get half-stories at best.

The killer in Oregon had guns that were purchased by his mother. She sounds like just as much of a flake as he was. In the church killing, that gun was purchased by his father. Sandy Hook, again, not his guns.

So kooks do get their hands on guns, and in many cases, are not labeled a kook in the first place. Perfectly legal to purchase firearms.

 

[Richard-H]

Let's see....

Liberals want legislation that prevents people with psychological illnesses from owning guns.

Conservatives say that liberals want to take their guns away.

Think about it...

What does that say about conservatives?

That we are intelligent enough to realize legislation won't stop anybody from getting a gun if they really want one????

Another conservative suffering from paranoid delusions! By the same logic, we should not have any laws!

Does the fact that murder, arson, rape and robbery happen despite that fact that we have laws against them mean that we should not have those laws?

The fact is that like those other crimes, having laws that prevent psychologically ill people from owning guns will severly reduce the instances of guns crimes being committed by those people.


Like those other laws, it would not make a perfect world, but using the perfect to undermine the good is no answer.

Wrong. Those other crimes you speak of do have laws that deter many people from breaking those laws. But if you are a suicidal nut case, are you prepared to obey new gun laws in this country?

Or perhaps you have plans on knocking over a convenience store. Armed robbery with the possibility you may need to shoot and/or kill someone. Do you think the criminal will reconsider because we have a new law that says he's supposed to have a background check?

Very few guns are purchased by the criminal from a gun shop. Fewer (less than 1% ) are purchased from a gun show. But these are your targets for solving this problem?

A very large percent of the mass murders that have been committed in the last few years are by people who have a documented history of psychological illness. Laws requiring a registry of these people and background checks for both commercial and private gun sales would severely reduce the incidence of both mass murders and single murders.

It's already been proven in numerous countries that gun laws do work!

No, it hasn't. You get half-stories at best.

The killer in Oregon had guns that were purchased by his mother. She sounds like just as much of a flake as he was. In the church killing, that gun was purchased by his father. Sandy Hook, again, not his guns.

So kooks do get their hands on guns, and in many cases, are not labeled a kook in the first place. Perfectly legal to purchase firearms.

So, if a law would only reduce the number of mass murders rather than absolutely eliminating all mass murders you are against it? By the same logic we should do away with all laws!

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, you just better hope that there is no HELL, for you surely are a candidate for eternity. Maybe you are right, but what if you are wrong?

So my choices are burning in hell for all eternity or kissing God's ass for all eternity. (Seriously, the Bible God is like a needy girlfriend.) Those aren't great choices, guy.

Frankly, you are the one who seems angry all the time at people who disagree with you. Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

Didn't your Bible-thumping friends tell you anger is a sin?

bigotry
[big-uh-tree] /ˈbɪg ə tri/

• Synonyms
• Examples
• Word Origin

noun, plural bigotries.
1.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2.
the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot

Ah yes, the liberal BIGOTRY, shows its ugly face once again.

So you aren't going to answer the question, then? Didn't your bible thumping, inbred pals tell you that Anger is a Sin?

Or are you one of these Christians who treats the Bible like a Software Agreement- you just click "I agree" without reading it.

 

[JoeB131]

You know Joe(of course you do, assholes always know themselves) 9 people in Oregon, who were in their pursuit of happiness, had an ANGRY LIBERAL approached them and in a LIBERAL BIGOTS way, asked them if they were Christians, then shot them dead. I guess you could say those children were aborted outside the womb, and as the fucktard you are, you don't give a damn.

I think you are a little confused. Mercer's Mom was a gun-toting Second Amendment nut who owned 14 guns and liked to take her boy to the range and talked about how the mean old gummit was looking to take her guns.

Now, while the gun nuts and the bible nuts wiping each other out does have a truly Darwinian flavor to it, that's the kind of thing you probably want to avoid.

Hey, I can kind of get the first person admitting they were a Christian and getting shot, but the second one was kind of a dope. If that's really what happened.