How can you vote for Obama when he supports anti-American platforms....?

[LilOlLady]

I have often wondered why nutters profess to hate Muslims so much. They are very much alike.

Muslims would back the libtards faster. They come from the same gutter.

Both Republicans and MOOSLIMS are run by religious fundamentalists... Birds of a feather

 

[regent]

The biggie wasn't mentioned. What do commies breathe, they breathe air, and what do lefties breathe, same thing, air. So what more evidence is needed that air-breathing lefties are commies? Marx worked for an American newspaper does that make people that work for American newspapers, commies? And what about Marx sending a Republican president congradulations on his election, does that make the Republican president a commie? Marx would do away with all taxes, does that make those that want to get rid of taxes commies? I wonder if the Republican party puts out a manual on SIMPLE STUFF for SIMPLE MINDS?

 

[LilOlLady]

WHAT IS SOCIALISM.

Socialism is an economic system where the means of production, such as money and other forms of capital, are owned by the state or public. Under a socialist system, everyone works for wealth that is, in turn, distributed to everyone. Under capitalism, you work for your own wealth. A socialist economic system operates on the premise that what is good for one is good for all. Everyone works for their own good and the good of everyone else. The government decides how wealth is distributed among the people.Capitalism vs. Socialism

If any of you have a brain so small that you belive Obama is a socialist need to be foreced to live in a truely socialist country. This country is only socialis in that it takes care of the elderly, poor, disabled and sometimes the mentally ill. You can kiss your asses and your belongings good by if this ever changes. Socialism in this form protect your behinds.

 

[AmericanFirst]

WHAT IS SOCIALISM.

Socialism is an economic system where the means of production, such as money and other forms of capital, are owned by the state or public. Under a socialist system, everyone works for wealth that is, in turn, distributed to everyone. Under capitalism, you work for your own wealth. A socialist economic system operates on the premise that what is good for one is good for all. Everyone works for their own good and the good of everyone else. The government decides how wealth is distributed among the people.Capitalism vs. Socialism

If any of you have a brain so small that you belive Obama is a socialist need to be foreced to live in a truely socialist country. This country is only socialis in that it takes care of the elderly, poor, disabled and sometimes the mentally ill. You can kiss your asses and your belongings good by if this ever changes. Socialism in this form protect your behinds.

By the definition, I will take Capitalism any day. Socialism is un-American and wrong. You trying to justify socialism is just comical and proves you to be un-American.

 

[georgephillip]

From the OP:

"Maybe that would be a question we could ask John Stewart: Where do Obama and the socialists disagree? Hmmm. That would be an interesting answer. But it would prove to be a very short TV segment – and not very funny."

Socialists would have prosecuted Tim Geithner instead of appointing him Treasury Secretary.
Socialists would have removed three words from the Original Medicare Act:
"Citizens over sixty five" would have become "citizens."
Socialists wouldn't waste spit on Obama.

Why I turned down spot on ‘The Daily Show’

isn't that a bit harsh.....? afterall Obama raided the "Citizens over sixty five" Medicare fund to the tune of 3/4 TRILLION dollars....and he's set up the "death panels"......give him his due....

A (partial) Socialist wish list for Wall Street "B":

"I wish Obama had pressed for single-payer national health care.

"I wish Obama had nationalized Citicorp and Bank of America, rather than bail them out.

"I wish he would have favored breaking up the rest of the big banks so they couldn't destroy our economy.

"I wish he would have forced any banks taking federal bailout money to freeze foreclosures for at least a year and freeze interest rates on mortgages and credit cards.

"I wish Obama would have proposed redistributing income from the wealthy to those who really need it by raising the marginal income tax, and the capital gains tax, and the estate tax.

"I wish Obama would have proposed a transaction tax on every stock sale so as to curb speculation.

"I wish Obama would have proposed raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour, as Ralph Nader has proposed.

"I wish Obama would have replaced Ben Bernanke at the Fed with Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.

"I wish Obama would have come out for democratizing the Fed, as Dennis Kucinich has recommended.

"I wish Obama would have proposed a public works program to put every American who needs a job to work."

Obama a 'Socialist'? I Wish | Common Dreams

 

[regent]

The first thing the government did under the new Constitution was pass laws helping America's infant industries. Was that socialism, capitalistm or just good old American government helps business tactics?

 

[georgephillip]

The first thing the government did under the new Constitution was pass laws helping America's infant industries. Was that socialism, capitalistm or just good old American government helps business tactics?

Sounds like Protectionism, to me.
The British did the same thing during their rise to global superpower.
Free markets are for the poor people.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

From the OP:

"Maybe that would be a question we could ask John Stewart: Where do Obama and the socialists disagree? Hmmm. That would be an interesting answer. But it would prove to be a very short TV segment – and not very funny."

Socialists would have prosecuted Tim Geithner instead of appointing him Treasury Secretary.
Socialists would have removed three words from the Original Medicare Act:
"Citizens over sixty five" would have become "citizens."
Socialists wouldn't waste spit on Obama.

Why I turned down spot on ‘The Daily Show’

isn't that a bit harsh.....? afterall Obama raided the "Citizens over sixty five" Medicare fund to the tune of 3/4 TRILLION dollars....and he's set up the "death panels"......give him his due....

A (partial) Socialist wish list for Wall Street "B":

"I wish Obama had pressed for single-payer national health care.

"I wish Obama had nationalized Citicorp and Bank of America, rather than bail them out.

"I wish he would have favored breaking up the rest of the big banks so they couldn't destroy our economy.

"I wish he would have forced any banks taking federal bailout money to freeze foreclosures for at least a year and freeze interest rates on mortgages and credit cards.

"I wish Obama would have proposed redistributing income from the wealthy to those who really need it by raising the marginal income tax, and the capital gains tax, and the estate tax.

"I wish Obama would have proposed a transaction tax on every stock sale so as to curb speculation.

"I wish Obama would have proposed raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour, as Ralph Nader has proposed.

"I wish Obama would have replaced Ben Bernanke at the Fed with Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.

"I wish Obama would have come out for democratizing the Fed, as Dennis Kucinich has recommended.

"I wish Obama would have proposed a public works program to put every American who needs a job to work."

Obama a 'Socialist'? I Wish | Common Dreams

America has fallen to a great degree under the blight of socialism.....as a result we are ruining our country and losing our freedoms and our prosperity unless we reverse course...unless we want to go down the drain just like Europe is....

Obama's policies are almost identical to Hollande of France....Hollande is a Socialist....

Is Obama a socialist? Obama falls within the mainstream of contemporary socialism as represented by Germany's Social Democrats, the French Socialists, or Spain's socialist-workers party. By this criterion, yes! Obama is a socialist. He is clearly a socialist in the European sense of the term.

France has just elected François Hollande president. Hollande is a proud socialist. How are Obama's and Hollande's policies similar?

•Reject austerity and embrace "growth." Hollande said that he will end the current austerity efforts. Obama has accused House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) and his House-passed budget of "social Darwinism," apparently meaning to say that the plan is so austere that it would leave millions of helpless Americans to fend for themselves, or what we used to call taking "personal responsibility."

•Raise taxes on the "rich." Hollande proposes a two-tiered tax structure. He wants to impose a 45-percent tax on incomes over €150,000, up from 41 percent, as well as a 75-percent tax on incomes above €1 million. Obama has proposed lots of new taxes for families making more than $250,000 a year.

•Raise the dividends tax. Hollande has also proposed increasing the dividends tax. Obama proposed raising the dividend tax rate from 15 percent to the highest personal income tax rate, 39.6 percent, next year.

•Crack down on the financial industry. Hollande wants to separate retail and investment banking, and he wants a financial transactions tax. Obama has already pushed through the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill and made a lot of headlines attacking the "fat cats" on Wall Street.

•Promote renewable energy projects. Hollande prefers clean energy ideas that don't work. He wants to reduce nuclear from 75 percent to 50 percent of France's energy and replace it with other green energy sources. Citizens Against Government Waste says that in America, there are about 20 green companies with federal grants or loan guarantees that could be in financial trouble. But Obama is campaigning on funding even more green jobs.

•Increase public subsidies to small businesses. Hollande wants to create a public investment bank to help small companies and home grown industries, funneling money to those companies that are least able to survive on their own. Obama has already tried to buy small business votes by providing a tax credit to offset the cost of health insurance.


Read more: Articles: Socialism, Obama, and America's Future

 

[Desperado]

You are being too harsh on Barrak. He has accomplish quite a bit since taking office.
Here is a short List Of Obama Accomplishments!

Quit Trashing President Obama's Accomplishments.

He has done more than any other President before him. He has an impressive list of accomplishments:

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.

First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.

First President to violate the War Powers Act.

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.

First President to terminate America's ability to put a man in space.

First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.

First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).

First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First President to go on multiple "global apology" tours and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First President to repeat the Holy Quran and tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences. Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.

First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).

List Of Obama Accomplishments!
How is this hope and change working out for you?

 

[LilOlLady]

One last thing you small brain village idiots. All these soicalist programs we have today was put in place long before Obama was even born. Most by Radical Right Wing Idiots.
Welfare,
Public Works, Military,
Unemployment Insurance,
Temporary Disability Insurance,Social Security,
SSI,
SSD,
Low Income Home Energy Assistance,
Medicare,
Medicaid,
HUD,
Section 8 Vouchers,
Public Housing
Food stamps,
government loans and grants.
Government Worker Programs
Civil Service Retirement Systems
Federal Employee Retirement Systems
Railroad Retirement System
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan
Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)
National School Lunch Program
School Breakfast Program
United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)

ObamaCare only socialist program owned by Obama patterened after daddy RomneyCare that provide free healthcare for half it citizensh by raping Medicaid.
How many of these socialist programs do you Radical Right Wing Idiots do you go to bed with every night and and would complain to the depths of hell if taken away from you. Even if if meant you paid not taxes as all.




A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
Proverbs 18:2

 

[rightwinger]

Crawl back into your delusions. Everything you just said is a lie.

Socialism has always worked for me. I got an education with the help of government grants. Got three government jobs that pay me a great retirement. Social Services and Special Education. Get a handsome check from the Chickasaw nation once in a while. Ipaid all the taxes asked of me. I paid into some that I did not agree on. I paid into uemployment insurance and never collected.
Thanks to Socialism.

WRONG!!! I get a retirement check from the federal government, I do not believe in socialism. If you do, you need to get out of my country.

Freeloader living off the government tit

 

[georgephillip]

"No decent socialist would have implemented policies that have left unemployment at over 9 percent and foreclosures at record heights.

"No decent socialist would have let the banks get off so easily.

"No decent socialist would have been caught dead praising the CEOs of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase and justifying their obscene salaries the way Obama did. ('I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen. I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.')

"No decent socialist would have left the health insurance industries in the driver's seat.

"No decent socialist would have empowered a panel to advocate the cutting of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

"No decent socialist would have expanded the war in Afghanistan, a hopeless war being fought by the sons and daughters of America's working class.

"So, no, Obama isn't a socialist. Not even close.

"But we'd be a lot better of in this country if he were."

Obama a 'Socialist'? I Wish | Common Dreams

 

[ScreamingEagle]

One last thing you small brain village idiots. All these soicalist programs we have today was put in place long before Obama was even born. Most by Radical Right Wing Idiots.
Welfare,
Public Works, Military,
Unemployment Insurance,
Temporary Disability Insurance,Social Security,
SSI,
SSD,
Low Income Home Energy Assistance,
Medicare,
Medicaid,
HUD,
Section 8 Vouchers,
Public Housing
Food stamps,
government loans and grants.
Government Worker Programs
Civil Service Retirement Systems
Federal Employee Retirement Systems
Railroad Retirement System
Medicare Prescription Drug Plan
Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)
National School Lunch Program
School Breakfast Program
United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)

ObamaCare only socialist program owned by Obama patterened after daddy RomneyCare that provide free healthcare for half it citizensh by raping Medicaid.
How many of these socialist programs do you Radical Right Wing Idiots do you go to bed with every night and and would complain to the depths of hell if taken away from you. Even if if meant you paid not taxes as all.




A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
Proverbs 18:2

the village idiots you refer to must be socialists.....since it takes a village......

Romney will be trimming these socialist programs in order to CUT SPENDING, balance the budget....and make government smaller.....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

"No decent socialist would have implemented policies that have left unemployment at over 9 percent and foreclosures at record heights.

"No decent socialist would have let the banks get off so easily.

"No decent socialist would have been caught dead praising the CEOs of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase and justifying their obscene salaries the way Obama did. ('I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen. I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.')

"No decent socialist would have left the health insurance industries in the driver's seat.

"No decent socialist would have empowered a panel to advocate the cutting of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

"No decent socialist would have expanded the war in Afghanistan, a hopeless war being fought by the sons and daughters of America's working class.

"So, no, Obama isn't a socialist. Not even close.

"But we'd be a lot better of in this country if he were."

Obama a 'Socialist'? I Wish | Common Dreams

in one way you may have a point.....Obama hasn't been very good at anything......

 

[georgephillip]

"No decent socialist would have implemented policies that have left unemployment at over 9 percent and foreclosures at record heights.

"No decent socialist would have let the banks get off so easily.

"No decent socialist would have been caught dead praising the CEOs of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase and justifying their obscene salaries the way Obama did. ('I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen. I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.')

"No decent socialist would have left the health insurance industries in the driver's seat.

"No decent socialist would have empowered a panel to advocate the cutting of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

"No decent socialist would have expanded the war in Afghanistan, a hopeless war being fought by the sons and daughters of America's working class.

"So, no, Obama isn't a socialist. Not even close.

"But we'd be a lot better of in this country if he were."

Obama a 'Socialist'? I Wish | Common Dreams

in one way you may have a point.....Obama hasn't been very good at anything......

He won't be getting my vote.

Neither major party candidate is likely to endorse public banking in the same way North Dakota did almost a century ago:

"North Dakota is also one of only two states expected to meet their budgets in 2010. (The other is Montana.) North Dakota is a sparsely populated state of less than 700,000 people, largely located in cold and isolated farming communities.

"Yet, since 2000, the state's GNP has grown 56 percent, personal income has grown 43 percent and wages have grown 34 percent. The state not only has no funding problems, but this year(2009) it has a budget surplus of $1.3 billion, the largest it has ever had.

"Why is North Dakota doing so well, when other states are suffering the ravages of a deepening credit crisis? Its secret may be that it has its own credit machine. North Dakota is the only state in the Union to own its own bank."

Cut Wall Street Out! How States Can Finance Their Own Economic Recovery

 

[ScreamingEagle]

"No decent socialist would have implemented policies that have left unemployment at over 9 percent and foreclosures at record heights.

"No decent socialist would have let the banks get off so easily.

"No decent socialist would have been caught dead praising the CEOs of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase and justifying their obscene salaries the way Obama did. ('I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen. I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.')

"No decent socialist would have left the health insurance industries in the driver's seat.

"No decent socialist would have empowered a panel to advocate the cutting of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

"No decent socialist would have expanded the war in Afghanistan, a hopeless war being fought by the sons and daughters of America's working class.

"So, no, Obama isn't a socialist. Not even close.

"But we'd be a lot better of in this country if he were."

Obama a 'Socialist'? I Wish | Common Dreams

in one way you may have a point.....Obama hasn't been very good at anything......

He won't be getting my vote.

Neither major party candidate is likely to endorse public banking in the same way North Dakota did almost a century ago:

"North Dakota is also one of only two states expected to meet their budgets in 2010. (The other is Montana.) North Dakota is a sparsely populated state of less than 700,000 people, largely located in cold and isolated farming communities.

"Yet, since 2000, the state's GNP has grown 56 percent, personal income has grown 43 percent and wages have grown 34 percent. The state not only has no funding problems, but this year(2009) it has a budget surplus of $1.3 billion, the largest it has ever had.

"Why is North Dakota doing so well, when other states are suffering the ravages of a deepening credit crisis? Its secret may be that it has its own credit machine. North Dakota is the only state in the Union to own its own bank."

Cut Wall Street Out! How States Can Finance Their Own Economic Recovery

nothing like having an OIL BOOM to pay the bills....

...can't believe they voted against cancelling their property tax....

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism at this point is simply intelligent, fair capitalism and democracy, cold war dinosaur dupes. and has been at least 60 years. The rich have prospered too much under Voodoo, while the nonrich and the country have suffered. The Pub propaganda machine is a disgrace, and so are you ignorant dupes. Change the channel. see sig, munchkins.

 

[jasonnfree]

Also, countries like China subsidize industries which then take over the market by prices cheaper than could be realized under normal free market conditions. The
solar industry is just one example. Japan did the same on her way up. Of course, neither candidate will talk about this. (free trade, offshoring, etc) so they spend most of their time talking about issues like gay rights, guns rights, abortion, religion. On the campaign trail, Obama knocks trade deals with foreign countries as hurting our job base , just like he mentioned maybe changing nafta around in his first campaign. But he's passed several free trade deals himself, just like his predecessor.

The first thing the government did under the new Constitution was pass laws helping America's infant industries. Was that socialism, capitalistm or just good old American government helps business tactics?

 

[georgephillip]

in one way you may have a point.....Obama hasn't been very good at anything......

He won't be getting my vote.

Neither major party candidate is likely to endorse public banking in the same way North Dakota did almost a century ago:

"North Dakota is also one of only two states expected to meet their budgets in 2010. (The other is Montana.) North Dakota is a sparsely populated state of less than 700,000 people, largely located in cold and isolated farming communities.

"Yet, since 2000, the state's GNP has grown 56 percent, personal income has grown 43 percent and wages have grown 34 percent. The state not only has no funding problems, but this year(2009) it has a budget surplus of $1.3 billion, the largest it has ever had.

"Why is North Dakota doing so well, when other states are suffering the ravages of a deepening credit crisis? Its secret may be that it has its own credit machine. North Dakota is the only state in the Union to own its own bank."

Cut Wall Street Out! How States Can Finance Their Own Economic Recovery

nothing like having an OIL BOOM to pay the bills....

...can't believe they voted against cancelling their property tax....

Other states have oil, but only one does business as a State Bank.
Florida has taken notice:

"A State Bank of Florida?

"Could the sort of commercial model tested by Commonwealth Bank work today in the United States? Economist Farid Khavari thinks so. A Democratic candidate for governor of Florida, he proposes a Bank of the State of Florida (BSF) that would make loans to Floridians at much lower interest rates than they are getting now, using the magic of fractional reserve lending. He explains:

"'For $100 in deposits, a bank can create $900 in new money by making loans. So, the BSF can pay 6 percent for CDs, and make mortgage loans at 2 percent. For $6 per year in interest paid out, the BSF can earn $18 by lending $900 at 2 percent for mortgages.'"

"The state would earn $15,000 per $100,000 of mortgage, at a cost of about $1,700, while the homeowner would save $88,000 in interest and pay for the home 15 years sooner. 'Our bank will save people about seven years of their pay over the course of 30 years, just on interest costs,' says Dr. Khavari. He also proposes 6 percent credit cards and 6 percent certificates of deposit."

Cut Wall Street Out! How States Can Finance Their Own Economic Recovery

Dr. Khavari has also made the claim that, over time, a State Bank of Florida could eliminate the need for local property taxes.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Also, countries like China subsidize industries which then take over the market by prices cheaper than could be realized under normal free market conditions. The
solar industry is just one example. Japan did the same on her way up. Of course, neither candidate will talk about this. (free trade, offshoring, etc) so they spend most of their time talking about issues like gay rights, guns rights, abortion, religion. On the campaign trail, Obama knocks trade deals with foreign countries as hurting our job base , just like he mentioned maybe changing nafta around in his first campaign. But he's passed several free trade deals himself, just like his predecessor.

The first thing the government did under the new Constitution was pass laws helping America's infant industries. Was that socialism, capitalistm or just good old American government helps business tactics?

are you sure "the prices" are cheaper than could be done with a free market......? are their subsidizing costs included in "the prices"....? how come Obama's subsidized solar panels were so expensive by comparison....?