How can we do what's fair if we can't agree on what fair means?

[Hafar1014]

SBGFY

If anyone goes to a trans march wear a hazmat suit.

 

[rightwinger]

Who are “THE RICH” and what is their “FAIR SHARE”?

Easy Peasy

Anyone making over a million dollars a year should be taxed at 50 percent on anything over a million
That worked before and our country prospered.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If anyone goes to a trans march wear a hazmat suit.

It is fascinating that all of these marches are really just commie marches disguised as special interest group marches.

 

[sealybobo]

The free market sets the prices

When we cut taxes on corporations, did they lower prices?

And when Trump slaps them all with an unconstitutional tariff and then cut off 20% of the worlds oil supplies did prices go up or down? Republicans insist trump's actions have not caused prices to go up. Only when they come down does his actions get any credit.

It is funny how corporations are eating a lot of trump's blunders. How come we aren't hearing more about corporate profits being down? Or is it just consumers who are being screwed in the end? Nah. Sales have to be down.

Also, I hear we are headed for another crash after a bubble, major recession. Trump's actions have foreign investors investing less in the USA. That's gonna lead to higher interest rates, yada yada. Point is they love to brag about the stock market but you know what happens to the stock market when it's gone up for 4 years every day? Eventually a crash has to come right? In my opinion, it's planned out. Just like Bush's 2008 crash. I should move all my stock to safe investments before the 2028 election.

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• Solid Fundamentals: Despite high valuations, mega-cap companies are generating record cash flows and operating on very strong balance sheets compared to past speculative bubbles
• How to adjust your portfolio risk for volatility

 

[sealybobo]

Easy Peasy

Anyone making over a million dollars a year should be taxed at 50 percent on anything over a million
That worked before and our country prospered.

You'll catch him in another thread saying "I've asked a million times and liberals will never answer what's fair......"

It's his Charlie Kirk question. What is a woman? It's meant to derail the conversation

Well you and I have just answered him. Will he be satisfied and never ask that question again?

It it time for him to admit he thinks what you are proposing is unfair? Isn't that where we are going with this? He thinks what you just suggested is UNFAIR. Wahh. Either he's rich or a house slave who won't leave the plantation?

 

[rightwinger]

You'll catch him in another thread saying "I've asked a million times and liberals will never answer what's fair......"

It's his Charlie Kirk question. What is a woman? It's meant to derail the conversation

Well you and I have just answered him. Will he be satisfied and never ask that question again?

It it time for him to admit he thinks what you are proposing is unfair? Isn't that where we are going with this? He thinks what you just suggested is UNFAIR. Wahh. Either he's rich or a house slave who won't leave the plantation?

We have bought into the myth that if we charge the wealthy and corporations lower taxes they will use it to provide more jobs and lower prices to consumers.

They just keep it

 

[MisterBeale]

The free market sets the prices

When we cut taxes on corporations, did they lower prices?

. . . and now you know the problem.

Neither the DNC, nor the GOP, nor the courts have any will to regulate the markets to ensure in fairness to the population. That was one of the main reasons our forefathers established the republic as a replacement to the articles of confederation.

The last meaningful market oversight was the breaking up of ma-bell in the 80s. But even that was not done for the American public, they did that b/c ATT was throttling competitors like MCI and Sprint who were working on the technocracy agenda.

 

[sealybobo]

Most of us did well. The economy is very strong. Under Biden it was a disaster for the middle class

Who's most of us? Be more specific. Farmers? My company? And define well. I'm in manufacturing. Trump's actions are holding back the broader economy. You and Trump may be doing well in this climate of uncertainty. Have you been LUCKY on your investments? Most of us have done well but that day will end right? Maybe if Trump stops being so unpredictable we will MAGA

Major companies are increasingly pausing new capital expenditures and scaling back U.S. exposure to avoid the economic uncertainty of Trump's unpredictable tariff regime and the threat of federal intervention in private markets.

I think you are lying about how well you did under Biden. If Trump was in charge things would have gotten worse. Biden got us through the pandemic Trump mismanaged and hid from us making it worse. He didn't encourage social distancing and masks and vaccines. Thank God he lost 2020

Household wealth swelled at a record pace during the pandemic. From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Your home and stocks didn't go up under Biden? You Fuching loser! LOL. You didn't invest wisely. If you purchased green technology you did well but I hope you sold your green tech stocks like Tesler before Trump got back in. But that's okay Elon. You can rip us off through Space X just make sure Don gets his cut. Mkay? And don't tell anyone any more dirt on Trump like he's in the Epstein files.

 

[Hafar1014]

Who's most of us? Be more specific. Farmers? My company? And define well. I'm in manufacturing. Trump's actions are holding back the broader economy. You and Trump may be doing well in this climate of uncertainty. Have you been LUCKY on your investments? Most of us have done well but that day will end right? Maybe if Trump stops being so unpredictable we will MAGA

Major companies are increasingly pausing new capital expenditures and scaling back U.S. exposure to avoid the economic uncertainty of Trump's unpredictable tariff regime and the threat of federal intervention in private markets.

I think you are lying about how well you did under Biden. If Trump was in charge things would have gotten worse. Biden got us through the pandemic Trump mismanaged and hid from us making it worse. He didn't encourage social distancing and masks and vaccines. Thank God he lost 2020

Household wealth swelled at a record pace during the pandemic. From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Your home and stocks didn't go up under Biden? You Fuching loser! LOL. You didn't invest wisely. If you purchased green technology you did well but I hope you sold your green tech stocks like Tesler before Trump got back in. But that's okay Elon. You can rip us off through Space X just make sure Don gets his cut. Mkay? And don't tell anyone any more dirt on Trump like he's in the Epstein files.

You have no idea which explains why your struggling. You look for problems and focus on the negative even creating the illusion of failure.

Social distancing had no science to support it and had no effect on an airborne virus. It did harm the economy. Masks also had no effect on transmission. Covid death increased under BIden who brought in over 200000 infected illegals. Fauci who Biden pardoned was the biggest problem we had regarding the virus he helped cretae

Bidens inflation cost families over 7000 dollars a year gas was 5.00 a gallon.

Trump gave us the vaccine. Today the economy is thriving after Biden wrecked it. You dont know what success is thats why you cant find it. You fail and need to blame someone else. Look in the mirror

 

[sealybobo]

We have bought into the myth that if we charge the wealthy and corporations lower taxes they will use it to provide more jobs and lower prices to consumers.

They just keep it

And they do help the economy. My brother is evidence of that. Condo in Florida, place in Greece, 2 kids he buys everything for and in college, hunting property up north, etc. It's very expensive to be rich and you do spend a lot of money. I can see how they feel like victims when they see how much they are taxed. We should be thanking them just for the money they spend. I'm thinking about the home builder who built his home up north. It's amazing. Guys like my brother keep builders like that employed. But I saw my brother go from making $500K a year to $1 million. Why??????? We should ask dumbass why my brother deserved a half million dollar raise and we got bumpkis.

What they don't realize is that is how this ISM works best. We figured it out a long time ago and for awhile we created the greatest middle class the world had never seen before. But the rich didn't like that. So they started hiring illegals, sending factories to other countries, they broke unions, they purchased from China rather than American factories. AND they bribed the politicians to give them tax breaks. Usually Republican politicians.

Another thing that would benefit the middle class would be to allow people to join medicare at age 62. Many of us would like to retire but can't afford health insurance our employers provide us.

 

[sealybobo]

You have no idea which explains why your struggling. You look for problems and focus on the negative even creating the illusion of failure.

Social distancing had no science to support it and had no effect on an airborne virus. It did harm the economy. Masks also had no effect on transmission. Covid death increased under BIden who brought in over 200000 infected illegals. Fauci who Biden pardoned was the biggest problem we had regarding the virus he helped cretae

Bidens inflation cost families over 7000 dollars a year gas was 5.00 a gallon.

Trump gave us the vaccine. Today the economy is thriving after Biden wrecked it. You dont know what success is thats why you cant find it. You fail and need to blame someone else. Look in the mirror

Only I'm not struggling.

You struggled through the Biden era when I showed you this?

Household wealth swelled at a record pace during the pandemic. From 2019 to 2022, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Would you have called it Trump inflation if he was president? No you wouldn't so I'm not going to allow that bs here. Today we are experiencing Trumpflation. Oh, and now Trump is talking like Kamala saying the oil companies are gouging us. They did that too under Biden only you wouldn't back Kamala and Biden up when they said it. You argued. Now you agree with Trump? You little *****.

 

[MisterBeale]

. . . and now you know the problem.

Neither the DNC, nor the GOP, nor the courts have any will to regulate the markets to ensure in fairness to the population. That was one of the main reasons our forefathers established the republic as a replacement to the articles of confederation.

The last meaningful market oversight was the breaking up of ma-bell in the 80s. But even that was not done for the American public, they did that b/c ATT was throttling competitors like MCI and Sprint who were working on the technocracy agenda.

And this does not even address the wealth transfer caused by devaluation of the dollar by the FED to fund the priorities of the ruling class.

Why didn't the DNC join Ron Paul in his attempts to end the fed if they really cared?

Devaluation Of The Dollar - History And Theory

The dollar lost 96% of its value since the Federal Reserve was created in 1913. Learn how that happened and what you can do to preserve your savings.

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[Hafar1014]

And they do help the economy. My brother is evidence of that. Condo in Florida, place in Greece, 2 kids he buys everything for and in college, hunting property up north, etc. It's very expensive to be rich and you do spend a lot of money. I can see how they feel like victims when they see how much they are taxed. We should be thanking them just for the money they spend. I'm thinking about the home builder who built his home up north. It's amazing. Guys like my brother keep builders like that employed. But I saw my brother go from making $500K a year to $1 million. Why??????? We should ask dumbass why my brother deserved a half million dollar raise and we got bumpkis.

What they don't realize is that is how this ISM works best. We figured it out a long time ago and for awhile we created the greatest middle class the world had never seen before. But the rich didn't like that. So they started hiring illegals, sending factories to other countries, they broke unions, they purchased from China rather than American factories. AND they bribed the politicians to give them tax breaks. Usually Republican politicians.

Another thing that would benefit the middle class would be to allow people to join medicare at age 62. Many of us would like to retire but can't afford health insurance our employers provide us.

Unions broke themselves. You dont understand Medicare. If we expand it taxes will have to go up and wipe out any advantage. You also need private supplement because Medicare only covers 50%.

Trump put 10 billion dollars into the middle class with his tax cuts. Increased the deduction fir the elderly and child deduction was increased. Not 1 democrat voted for it

 

[my2¢]

The way I see it, the problem is over the understanding of "No."
Some folks just don't get it.

 

[sealybobo]

Unions broke themselves. You dont understand Medicare. If we expand it taxes will have to go up and wipe out any advantage. You also need private supplement because Medicare only covers 50%.

Trump put 10 billion dollars into the middle class with his tax cuts. Increased the deduction fir the elderly and child deduction was increased. Not 1 democrat voted for it

Yea because those tax cuts went heavily to the rich and we can't afford that. If Trump or Bush's tax breaks went to the middle class only that would have been a win for everyone. It's like Republicans can't wait for the country to go bankrupt again in the next great depression.

Trump put 10 billion dollars into the middle class with his tax cuts

Any savings got eaten up when I purchased some new furniture and when I filled my gas tank. Oh is that going to improve? How much? Are you going to get us to 6% more inflation than Biden left us? Then that's not a win.

You don't get to jack up the economy then get credit for fixing it. You just cost us a fortune are we supposed to forget that?

 

[August West]

PTA

www.thepromisetoamerica.com

Dem is now the party of the FRINGE MINORITIES.

FAR LEFT WEINER IS REJECTED BY HIS CONSTITUENTS!

BE BUBBLEHEAD PARROTS!

The GOP has been the party of the Klan and gunaholics for decades. Your point?

 

[dudmuck]

Who are “THE RICH” and what is their “FAIR SHARE”?

INCOMES AND TAX BRACKETS.
WEALTH ACCUMULATION AND TAX BRACKETS.

LIST YOUR IDEAL FAIRNESS FOR THE RICH.