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Pretty much everything you were taught about history and "pre-history" is total bullshit
You're spot on about the astronomical capabilities of prior civilizations
Antikythera mechanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No one ever talks about the engineering capabilities either. They still cant figure out how these people built these pyramids with 20 ton slabs of stone cut and fitted together where you can't even stick a human hair into the cracks. There is a tower in Luxor Egypt that has 4 sides and identical precision carvings on each side. Looks like a computer did the cutting. Same thing with the faces on some of the Egyptian artifacts. The symmetry is impossible to achieve with the naked eye and by hand. They made a computer generated clear image of one of the statues and superimposed it on the original. The computer generated clear image disappeared it was so perfectly balanced.
It's as if prior civilizations had a disregard for gravity
Yeah I can do that with some stone tools too!
That's from Baalbek, Lebanon. The stones on top are Roman and were built on orders from Augustus. The platform the sit upon, the Trilithlon are inconceivably large and look far more weathered than the Roman stones, locals say they date back to the time of Adam and Eve.
What prior civilization build that platform?
I think it was Sunshine that had it right. There had to be an advanced civilization prior to the Ice Age. I dont buy the alien theory just because you cant figure out how they did it.
The science and math developed from 1400 to 1800 brought on the industrial revolution.
Not only did we get machines but also a flood of science based on "rigid rules" that helped advance our world at a faster rate the all of human history combined.
Who did most of that?
Looks to me that scholars in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries have messed up on a number of occasions. The latest I have discovered is their miss in the importance of astronomy in the building of pyramids in Egypt (Giza) and Mexico (Teotihuacan). Both sites mimic the Orion constellation and are built based on mathematical computations using the circumference of the earth. The pyramid of the sun god in Mexico is exactly half the height of the one in Egypt. There is also a site in South Africa known as Adams Calendar that is a still functioning as a calendar and astrological observatory. People believe this site is at least 75K - 100K years old which would replace the Sumerian culture as the oldest example of civilization. How did they miss it out in the open after being alerted of its presence years before they finally got around to acknowledging it? Do we need to start questioning everything we have been taught?
I'm not so sure there is even a modest amount of agreement about Adam's Calendar or the significance thereof... The dates are impressive, but I can't find a single ACADEMIC study that proves that anything "was missed"..
I'm starting to not put much stock in standard academia which is the premise of this thread. i'm not even an astronomer and I can see from the layout it looks like Stonehenge. Whats worse is the Sumerian civilization had a myth that said they came from that area. I would at least be looking at it seriously now that they found it. I think human pride gets in the way too much. They should preface all their discoveries with "at this point we believe". That way they don't look so bad when they miss stuff. They should have learned from the discovery of Sumer itself. For the longest they said it was a mythical city until someone found it.
Looks to me that scholars in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries have messed up on a number of occasions. The latest I have discovered is their miss in the importance of astronomy in the building of pyramids in Egypt (Giza) and Mexico (Teotihuacan). Both sites mimic the Orion constellation and are built based on mathematical computations using the circumference of the earth. The pyramid of the sun god in Mexico is exactly half the height of the one in Egypt. There is also a site in South Africa known as Adams Calendar that is a still functioning as a calendar and astrological observatory. People believe this site is at least 75K - 100K years old which would replace the Sumerian culture as the oldest example of civilization. How did they miss it out in the open after being alerted of its presence years before they finally got around to acknowledging it? Do we need to start questioning everything we have been taught?
I'm not so sure there is even a modest amount of agreement about Adam's Calendar or the significance thereof... The dates are impressive, but I can't find a single ACADEMIC study that proves that anything "was missed"..
I'm starting to not put much stock in standard academia which is the premise of this thread. i'm not even an astronomer and I can see from the layout it looks like Stonehenge. Whats worse is the Sumerian civilization had a myth that said they came from that area. I would at least be looking at it seriously now that they found it. I think human pride gets in the way too much. They should preface all their discoveries with "at this point we believe". That way they don't look so bad when they miss stuff. They should have learned from the discovery of Sumer itself. For the longest they said it was a mythical city until someone found it.
Looks to me that scholars in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries have messed up on a number of occasions. The latest I have discovered is their miss in the importance of astronomy in the building of pyramids in Egypt (Giza) and Mexico (Teotihuacan). Both sites mimic the Orion constellation and are built based on mathematical computations using the circumference of the earth. The pyramid of the sun god in Mexico is exactly half the height of the one in Egypt. There is also a site in South Africa known as Adams Calendar that is a still functioning as a calendar and astrological observatory. People believe this site is at least 75K - 100K years old which would replace the Sumerian culture as the oldest example of civilization. How did they miss it out in the open after being alerted of its presence years before they finally got around to acknowledging it? Do we need to start questioning everything we have been taught?
Pretty much everything you were taught about history and "pre-history" is total bullshit
You're spot on about the astronomical capabilities of prior civilizations
Antikythera mechanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No one ever talks about the engineering capabilities either. They still cant figure out how these people built these pyramids with 20 ton slabs of stone cut and fitted together where you can't even stick a human hair into the cracks. There is a tower in Luxor Egypt that has 4 sides and identical precision carvings on each side. Looks like a computer did the cutting. Same thing with the faces on some of the Egyptian artifacts. The symmetry is impossible to achieve with the naked eye and by hand. They made a computer generated clear image of one of the statues and superimposed it on the original. The computer generated clear image disappeared it was so perfectly balanced.
The science and math developed from 1400 to 1800 brought on the industrial revolution.
Not only did we get machines but also a flood of science based on "rigid rules" that helped advance our world at a faster rate the all of human history combined.
Who did most of that?
The Moors
Conversion to Islam proceeded at a steadily increasing pace. The muladíes (Muslims of ethnic Iberian origin) are believed to have comprised the majority of the population of Al-Andalus by the end of the 10th century.[20][21]
The Muslim community in the Iberian peninsula was itself diverse and beset by social tensions. The Berber people of North Africa, who had provided the bulk of the invading armies, clashed with the Arab leadership from the Middle East.[f] Over time, large Moorish populations became established, especially in the Guadalquivir River valley, the coastal plain of Valencia, the Ebro River valley and (towards the end of this period) in the mountainous region of Granada.[21]
Córdoba, the capital of the caliphate, was the largest, richest and most sophisticated city in western Europe. Mediterranean trade and cultural exchange flourished. Muslims imported a rich intellectual tradition from the Middle East and North Africa. Muslim and Jewish scholars played an important part in reviving and expanding classical Greek learning in Western Europe. The Romanised cultures of the Iberian peninsula interacted with Muslim and Jewish cultures in complex ways, thus giving the region a distinctive culture.[21] Outside the cities, where the vast majority lived, the land ownership system from Roman times remained largely intact as Muslim leaders rarely dispossessed landowners, and the introduction of new crops and techniques led to an expansion of agriculture.[citation needed]
In the 11th century, the Muslim holdings fractured into rival Taifa kingdoms, allowing the small Christian states the opportunity to greatly enlarge their territories.[21] The arrival from North Africa of the Islamic ruling sects of the Almoravids and the Almohads restored unity upon the Muslim holdings, with a stricter, less tolerant application of Islam, and saw a revival in Muslim fortunes. This re-united Islamic state experienced more than a century of successes that partially reversed Christian gains.
Probably as much as the greeks and the holy roman empire. Science in the medieval Islamic world, also known as Islamic science or Arabic science, is the science developed and practised in the Islamic world during the Islamic Golden Age (c.750 CE – c.1258 CE). During this time, Indian, Asyriac, Iranian and especially Greek knowledge was translated into Arabic. These translations became a wellspring for scientific advances, by scientists from the Islamic civilization, during the Middle Ages.[1
(ca. 8th – 9th centuries) was an alchemist who used extensive experimentation and produced many works on science and alchemy which have survived to the present day. Jabir described the laboratory techniques and experimental methods of chemistry. He identified many substances including sulfuric and nitric acid. He described processes including sublimation, reduction and distillation. He utilized equipment such as the alembic and the retort. There is considerable uncertainty as to the actual provenance of many works that are ascribed to him.[23][24]
(ca. early 9th century) were three Persian sons of a colorful astronomer and astrologer. They were scholars close to the court of caliph al-Ma’mun, and contributed greatly to the translation of ancient works into Arabic. They elaborated the mathematics of cones and ellipses, and performed astronomic calculations. Most notably, they contributed to the field of automation with the creations of automated devices such as the ones described in their Book of Ingenious Devices.[25][26][27]
Ibn Ishaq al-Kindi (801–873) was a philosopher and polymath scientist heavily involved in the translation of Greek classics into Arabic. He worked to reconcile the conflicts between his Islamic faith and his affinity for reason; a conflict that would eventually lead to problems with his rulers. He criticized the basis of alchemy and astrology, and contributed to a wide range of scientific subjects in his writings. He worked on cryptography for the caliphate, and even wrote a piece on the subject of time, space and relative movement.[28]
(809–873) was one of the most important translators of the ancient Greek works into Arabic. He was also a physician and a writer on medical subjects. His translations interpreted, corrected and extended the ancient works. Some of his translations of medical works were used in Europe for centuries. He also wrote on medical subjects, particularly on the human eye. His book Ten Treatises on the Eye was influential in the West until the 17th century.[29]
...was an Andalusian scientist, musician and inventor. He developed a clear glass used in drinking vessels, and lenses used for magnification and the improvement of vision. He had a room in his house where the sky was simulated, including the motion of planets, stars and weather complete with clouds, thunder and lightning. He is most well known for reportedly surviving an attempt at controlled flight.[30]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon1][a] Kt., QC (22 January 1561 – 9 April 1626) was an English philosopher, statesman, scientist, jurist, orator and author. He served both as Attorney General and Lord Chancellor of England. After his death, he remained extremely influential through his works, especially as philosophical advocate and practitioner of the scientific method during the scientific revolution.
(13 June 1831 – 5 November 1879) was a Scottish[1][2] mathematical physicist.[3] His most prominent achievement was to formulate a set of equations that describe electricity, magnetism, and optics as manifestations of the same phenomenon, namely the electromagnetic field.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi29 September 1901 – 28 November 1954) was an Italian physicist, best known for his work on Chicago Pile-1 (the first nuclear reactor), and for his contributions to the development of quantum theory, nuclear and particle physics, and statistical mechanics.
I'm not so sure there is even a modest amount of agreement about Adam's Calendar or the significance thereof... The dates are impressive, but I can't find a single ACADEMIC study that proves that anything "was missed"..
I'm starting to not put much stock in standard academia which is the premise of this thread. i'm not even an astronomer and I can see from the layout it looks like Stonehenge. Whats worse is the Sumerian civilization had a myth that said they came from that area. I would at least be looking at it seriously now that they found it. I think human pride gets in the way too much. They should preface all their discoveries with "at this point we believe". That way they don't look so bad when they miss stuff. They should have learned from the discovery of Sumer itself. For the longest they said it was a mythical city until someone found it.
Want to to know why I know you are off your rocker?
The original height of the Great Pyramid was 146.59 m (480.94 ft). The Height of the Pyramid of the Sun is 71.2 m (233.5 ft). That is not exactly half the height of anything, much less the Pyramid of Khufu.
I used to love Chariots of the Gods, and all that von Daniken shit, then I grew up.
i have the Pyramid of the Sun at 246 ft which is off by how many feet of being exactly half? Guess which measurement I'm going to believe? Why are both aligned with Orions belt? Try harder Quantum. I dont know what got a bug up your butt however you may want to let adults talk and sit this one out.
Pretty much everything you were taught about history and "pre-history" is total bullshit
You're spot on about the astronomical capabilities of prior civilizations
Antikythera mechanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No one ever talks about the engineering capabilities either. They still cant figure out how these people built these pyramids with 20 ton slabs of stone cut and fitted together where you can't even stick a human hair into the cracks. There is a tower in Luxor Egypt that has 4 sides and identical precision carvings on each side. Looks like a computer did the cutting. Same thing with the faces on some of the Egyptian artifacts. The symmetry is impossible to achieve with the naked eye and by hand. They made a computer generated clear image of one of the statues and superimposed it on the original. The computer generated clear image disappeared it was so perfectly balanced.
You really need to keep up with modern scholarship.
How Were The Egyptian Pyramids Built?
If they could do it why haven't they been able to duplicate it? The last time the Japanese tried they met with massive failure even while cheating and using modern transportation. Seems like they would have at least had the pic as evidence. Unless you have a link for someone duplicating the feat of building a pyramid exactly like the ancients did I will just laugh at you. You obviously have never seen the pyramids up close.
I'm starting to not put much stock in standard academia which is the premise of this thread. i'm not even an astronomer and I can see from the layout it looks like Stonehenge. Whats worse is the Sumerian civilization had a myth that said they came from that area. I would at least be looking at it seriously now that they found it. I think human pride gets in the way too much. They should preface all their discoveries with "at this point we believe". That way they don't look so bad when they miss stuff. They should have learned from the discovery of Sumer itself. For the longest they said it was a mythical city until someone found it.
Want to to know why I know you are off your rocker?
The original height of the Great Pyramid was 146.59 m (480.94 ft). The Height of the Pyramid of the Sun is 71.2 m (233.5 ft). That is not exactly half the height of anything, much less the Pyramid of Khufu.
I used to love Chariots of the Gods, and all that von Daniken shit, then I grew up.
Is that really all you have?
No one ever talks about the engineering capabilities either. They still cant figure out how these people built these pyramids with 20 ton slabs of stone cut and fitted together where you can't even stick a human hair into the cracks. There is a tower in Luxor Egypt that has 4 sides and identical precision carvings on each side. Looks like a computer did the cutting. Same thing with the faces on some of the Egyptian artifacts. The symmetry is impossible to achieve with the naked eye and by hand. They made a computer generated clear image of one of the statues and superimposed it on the original. The computer generated clear image disappeared it was so perfectly balanced.
You really need to keep up with modern scholarship.
How Were The Egyptian Pyramids Built?
So you have a link from the guys that cant figure out how it was done and I'm supposed to think its legit?
Want to to know why I know you are off your rocker?
The original height of the Great Pyramid was 146.59 m (480.94 ft). The Height of the Pyramid of the Sun is 71.2 m (233.5 ft). That is not exactly half the height of anything, much less the Pyramid of Khufu.
I used to love Chariots of the Gods, and all that von Daniken shit, then I grew up.
Is that really all you have?
You of course, are going to believe the numbers you pulled from a stupid book over the measurements obtained by actual people that are trained in surveying techniques.
By the way, even if we use your numbers you are off by 12 feet, which means it still isn't "exactly half" of the height, which makes your statement 100% wrong. If you don't like being wrong, don't say stupid things.
What makes you think they are aligned with Orion's belt? Does the orientation of Orion's belt change between Egypt and Mexico? I am just asking because the Pyramid of the sun is almost oriented to the northwest, and the Great Pyramid is oriented as close to north south as it was possible to get.
Some free advice, never try to defend idiotic theories with a person that has actually read the crap you are using, and compared it with reality.
So you have a link from the guys that cant figure out how it was done and I'm supposed to think its legit?
They explained how it was done, and even proved it was possible by dragging a block of stone themselves.
By the way, did you notice they pointed out that an actual ramp built at the time the pyramids were built still exists?
Is that really all you have?
You of course, are going to believe the numbers you pulled from a stupid book over the measurements obtained by actual people that are trained in surveying techniques.
By the way, even if we use your numbers you are off by 12 feet, which means it still isn't "exactly half" of the height, which makes your statement 100% wrong. If you don't like being wrong, don't say stupid things.
What makes you think they are aligned with Orion's belt? Does the orientation of Orion's belt change between Egypt and Mexico? I am just asking because the Pyramid of the sun is almost oriented to the northwest, and the Great Pyramid is oriented as close to north south as it was possible to get.
Some free advice, never try to defend idiotic theories with a person that has actually read the crap you are using, and compared it with reality.
Look at the layout then look at Orions belt. Same configuration as the stars and each other. When viewed from up above. Some free advice. Dont be a sheeple.
You of course, are going to believe the numbers you pulled from a stupid book over the measurements obtained by actual people that are trained in surveying techniques.
By the way, even if we use your numbers you are off by 12 feet, which means it still isn't "exactly half" of the height, which makes your statement 100% wrong. If you don't like being wrong, don't say stupid things.
What makes you think they are aligned with Orion's belt? Does the orientation of Orion's belt change between Egypt and Mexico? I am just asking because the Pyramid of the sun is almost oriented to the northwest, and the Great Pyramid is oriented as close to north south as it was possible to get.
Some free advice, never try to defend idiotic theories with a person that has actually read the crap you are using, and compared it with reality.
Look at the layout then look at Orions belt. Same configuration as the stars and each other. When viewed from up above. Some free advice. Dont be a sheeple.
The pyramids were built so that idiots would think that they looked like Orion's belt 4,500 years later? That was incredible, how did they know there would be idiots who would make that argument?
So you have a link from the guys that cant figure out how it was done and I'm supposed to think its legit?
They explained how it was done, and even proved it was possible by dragging a block of stone themselves.
By the way, did you notice they pointed out that an actual ramp built at the time the pyramids were built still exists?
They didnt prove anything except that they have a theory. So do the people that think aliens built it. Until they can build a pyramid to the tolerances that those were built without using machinery i have to call BS. Like I said you have to see the pyramids up close to appreciate how stupid and self serving their theories are.
They explained how it was done, and even proved it was possible by dragging a block of stone themselves.
By the way, did you notice they pointed out that an actual ramp built at the time the pyramids were built still exists?
They didnt prove anything except that they have a theory. So do the people that think aliens built it. Until they can build a pyramid to the tolerances that those were built without using machinery i have to call BS. Like I said you have to see the pyramids up close to appreciate how stupid and self serving their theories are.
I don't need to see Norte Dame up close to know that it took over 10 times as long to build, and was a much more difficult engineering feat than building the pyramids, but thanks for proving that you aren't interested in learning.
