How about a simple solution - Part 2

[pbel]

pbel, you seem to forget that the indians tried the same thing fighting the americans for over two hundred years, thinking that they would wipe them out. They finally decided to cut their losses and call for peace so that they could keep what little was left to them.

Shouldn't the Palestinians learn from that?

They could learn what the Indians realized that you can't defeat a people with a 1000 to 1 odds numerically against you, a hopeless cause in the long-run...The Palestinians are a tiny number of the Arabs and Islamists who are out to destroy Israel...Only peace might save her in the long-run...If my numbers are correct, Islam outnumbers Israelis somewhere around 2,000 to 1...The Horde is big, give it time.

 

[Phoenall]

In few years the Palestinians would regret they didn't..
Like an addicted gambler they take the all-in time and again and surprised they lose(And for you smartypants like pbel that believe any time it would be different or so - ''the house always wins'').

The house will fall in time like it always has for European invaders...The hundreds of millions will regroup, time will whittle US support and your decedents will flee...That's the story of this area.

Unless they are offered something in return the muslims will remain fragmented and each will have their own agenda. The two biggest groups in islam cant even agree on what aspects of religion to follow, so what chance do they have of fighting the same battle.

When are you going to reply to your LIE about Carnegie's, and JP Morgan's bankers who made America prosper, were of the Jewish Faith, otherwise GO F your-self!

Have done, did you miss it

re-post it.

Why don't you look for it

 

[Phoenall]

pbel, you seem to forget that the indians tried the same thing fighting the americans for over two hundred years, thinking that they would wipe them out. They finally decided to cut their losses and call for peace so that they could keep what little was left to them.

Shouldn't the Palestinians learn from that?

They could learn what the Indians realized that you can't defeat a people with a 1000 to 1 odds numerically against you, a hopeless cause in the long-run...The Palestinians are a tiny number of the Arabs and Islamists who are out to destroy Israel...Only peace might save her in the long-run...If my numbers are correct, Islam outnumbers Israelis somewhere around 2,000 to 1...The Horde is big, give it time.

So it can fail again and be let with another nakba

 

[pbel]

The house will fall in time like it always has for European invaders...The hundreds of millions will regroup, time will whittle US support and your decedents will flee...That's the story of this area.

Unless they are offered something in return the muslims will remain fragmented and each will have their own agenda. The two biggest groups in islam cant even agree on what aspects of religion to follow, so what chance do they have of fighting the same battle.

When are you going to reply to your LIE about Carnegie's, and JP Morgan's bankers who made America prosper, were of the Jewish Faith, otherwise GO F your-self!

Have done, did you miss it

re-post it.

Why don't you look for it

Phoney you have a solid reputation for lying...Post it!

 

[teddyearp]

pbel, you seem to forget that the indians tried the same thing fighting the americans for over two hundred years, thinking that they would wipe them out. They finally decided to cut their losses and call for peace so that they could keep what little was left to them.

Shouldn't the Palestinians learn from that?

They could learn what the Indians realized that you can't defeat a people with a 1000 to 1 odds numerically against you, a hopeless cause in the long-run...The Palestinians are a tiny number of the Arabs and Islamists who are out to destroy Israel...Only peace might save her in the long-run...If my numbers are correct, Islam outnumbers Israelis somewhere around 2,000 to 1...The Horde is big, give it time.

Yeah, give it time. Ha! It has been over 40 years since any of the other Arab nations decided they wanted to help back the Palestinians in actual war. They'll give them money and weapons, but they got tired of getting their ass handed to them 40+ years ago and will never again commit troops to help them. Hell, they're not even in any condition now to commit troops, they have too much troubles of their own.

You had better quit living in your dream world, bud.

 

[pbel]

pbel, you seem to forget that the indians tried the same thing fighting the americans for over two hundred years, thinking that they would wipe them out. They finally decided to cut their losses and call for peace so that they could keep what little was left to them.

Shouldn't the Palestinians learn from that?

They could learn what the Indians realized that you can't defeat a people with a 1000 to 1 odds numerically against you, a hopeless cause in the long-run...The Palestinians are a tiny number of the Arabs and Islamists who are out to destroy Israel...Only peace might save her in the long-run...If my numbers are correct, Islam outnumbers Israelis somewhere around 2,000 to 1...The Horde is bi

pbel, you seem to forget that the indians tried the same thing fighting the americans for over two hundred years, thinking that they would wipe them out. They finally decided to cut their losses and call for peace so that they could keep what little was left to them.

Shouldn't the Palestinians learn from that?

They could learn what the Indians realized that you can't defeat a people with a 1000 to 1 odds numerically against you, a hopeless cause in the long-run...The Palestinians are a tiny number of the Arabs and Islamists who are out to destroy Israel...Only peace might save her in the long-run...If my numbers are correct, Islam outnumbers Israelis somewhere around 2,000 to 1...The Horde is big, give it time.

Yeah, give it time. Ha! It has been over 40 years since any of the other Arab nations decided they wanted to help back the Palestinians in actual war. They'll give them money and weapons, but they got tired of getting their ass handed to them 40+ years ago and will never again commit troops to help them. Hell, they're not even in any condition now to commit troops, they have too much troubles of their own.

You had better quit living in your dream world, bud.

My dream world? You better read the History of the ME and see how all invaders thus far have left after hundreds of years of attrition...You're really mistaken if you think this conflict is only between Israel and the Palestinians...Iran, Hezbollah, Isis, they will keep fighting for hundreds of years as new Islamists pop up as they are now with the Arab Spring...Why do you think Israel is always whining about defensible borders, not for the Pals!

Get a little education and read before you post...You had the American Indian story ass-backwards in logic.

 

[teddyearp]

I hope you realize that nothing you posted above makes any sense. I've been immersing myself in the history of the ME; much more so since joining this site. I have probably even learned something from any substantive links you posted, or have you?

But please, please explain to me how my indian story is backwards in logic.

 

[Humanity]

pbel, you seem to forget that the indians tried the same thing fighting the americans for over two hundred years, thinking that they would wipe them out. They finally decided to cut their losses and call for peace so that they could keep what little was left to them.

Shouldn't the Palestinians learn from that?

Happy New Year Teddy, and everyone!

It's late and I haven't read your OP Teddy, something for the morning...

Just two points with this comment Teddy...

The "Americans", the immigrants, 200 years ago, tried to commit genocide against the Native American Indians.... Today, with world news, internet, a little more humanity, this would not have been possible!

The "Americans", the immigrants, 200 years ago, tried to commit genocide against the Native American Indians.... That has a very familiar ring to it when looking at Israel and Palestine I think...

 

[pbel]

I hope you realize that nothing you posted above makes any sense. I've been immersing myself in the history of the ME; much more so since joining this site. I have probably even learned something from any substantive links you posted, or have you?

But please, please explain to me how my indian story is backwards in logic.

Simple: the Indians faced overwhelming odds in population, so does Israel 6 million Israelis have 1.2 billion population of Muslims and locally 600 million Arabs...Insurmountable odds that will eventually overwhelm them like so many previous invaders to this turf.

 

[teddyearp]

The "Americans", the immigrants, 200 years ago, tried to commit genocide against the Native American Indians.... That has a very familiar ring to it when looking at Israel and Palestine I think...

Happy new year back. However, the oft popular term 'genocide' is hard to apply since the population of the "Palestinians" has increased, not decreased.

 

[teddyearp]

However, they have had those overwhelming odds since 1948. The last time those 'overwhelming odds' were attempted to be used against them was in 1973, with Egypt and Syria leading the way. Before that in 1967 Jordan was part of the fray.

Now let's look. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel. Syria is in ruins, as is Lebanon. Iraq has enough problems of their own to worry about launching an attack on Israel, and Iran is pretty much in the same boat.

So where is your dream army going to come from? Step away from the bong, bud.

 

[aris2chat]

There is nothing simple about the middle east or it's people.

 

[teddyearp]

There is nothing simple about the middle east or it's people.

I know, I know. I too, am dreaming and wishing there could be a simple solution. But I am learning.