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I charge for my service. That was the deal and I kept my end of it even though the government didn't keep their's.Does anyone want a refund?
You're asking if people want to keep more of their money?
Do you seriously not know, friend?
Are you saying I didn't earn this?
But that isn't reality.
It's always hard for people to consider that maybe their actions will have consequences, I guess.From the link;
Conservatives Remember What Can Happen When You Lose - Orthodox Reflections
A republic depends on all sides feeling secure enough in their rights to accept a political loss. Winners must follow the rules.orthodoxreflections.com
Conservatives Remember What Can Happen When You Lose
DECEMBER 22, 2020
American Life, Corona Virus / CoVID-19, Protests
Right after chow one morning, we had a lecture that I dimly recall was on the topic of “Urban Warfare.” I remember the major teaching the class had a last name resembling a line on an eye chart. I was only 19 back then. Officers and NCO’s in those days always used some kind of “hook” at the beginning of their lectures to engage the audience. Jokes were common. Some used film clips. Others read book passages or newspaper articles.
This major read us a story written by an eyewitness to the Sack of Constantinople. For a few minutes that morning, we listened as blood ran in the streets and children were slaughtered in front of their parents. Shrieking mothers were gang raped alongside their daughters before all of them were brutally decapitated. Old men were drug down the streets by their white beards for sport. Books representing thousands of years of accumulated knowledge were burned. Some of the greatest art in the world was despoiled in a frenzy of hate and violence.
When he finished reading, the major asked us what the moral of the story was. Marines in the audience ventured various guesses. The major seemed increasingly annoyed by their efforts. Finally, he closed the book sharply and said, “The moral of the story is – don’t f**king lose.”
Over thirty years later, I still remember the moral of that story. In the meantime, I’ve learned a lot, gotten old, and become Orthodox. Now I recognize that many of those Greeks died as martyrs for Christ. They are in a place of peace as they await the resurrection and their everlasting reward. But as a father and husband, I also recognize that if they had had a choice, few of them would have voluntarily watched helplessly as their loved-ones suffered such horrible deaths.
So yeah. Don’t f**cking lose. Once you do, whatever happens next is completely out of your control. And historically speaking, what comes next can be really, really bad if the winners hate your guts.
Tens of millions of us are looking out over the landscape of contemporary America and feeling besieged. This year, we’ve watched BLM / Antifa rioters allowed to pillage and burn with impunity. Police stood down in the face of violent disorder, and refused to protect innocent civilians. Citizens who tried to protect themselves and their property were vilified and some have even been charged with crimes. Not even senior public officials such as senators and congressmen were safe from the fury of the mobs. The riots have destroyed thousands of homes and businesses causing billions in damages. Churches have not been spared, some even being attacked while worshippers prayed inside. Statues of Jesus, the saints, and American heroes have been pulled down and desecrated.
The media and the politicians have made excuses for all this or intentionally downplayed it. The words “mostly peaceful” have entered our lexicon now, along with “flatten the curve” and the “new normal.”
The mobs were also active on social media. As a result of pressure campaigns, historical place names are being changed. Books are being banned. Beloved authors are being consigned to the memory hole because they were the wrong color or because they wrote about the wrong topics. As the old American culture is erased bit-by-bit, a new one arises that none of us can even recognize.
Truly the barbarians have breached the gates. Only this time, the rulers invited them in.
But it’s not just the violence in the streets and the pressure of woke Twitter mobs that are changing our nation. We’ve watched with concern for decades as executive power has grown unchecked, only to discover in 2020 that the situation is even worse than we could have possibly imagined. Mayors, health officials, and governors can lock us in our homes, shut down our businesses, close our churches, close our schools, and even change the rules for how we vote. Police around the country enforce these clearly unconstitutional orders as if they were the law of the land. City councils, state legislatures, Congress and courts have all proven ineffectual in reigning in executive overreach. On the off chance a court declares one arbitrary rule or another unconstitutional, the executives seem to always find a way to keep their boots on our necks.
If the fear of a virus with a 99.7% survival rate can be leveraged to transform our entire society, are there any limits on what government can do in a “crisis”?
Throughout this nightmare of a year, we consoled ourselves with one thought – at least we can vote the bastards out. Or, maybe not…
According to the official narrative, COVID-19 is going to kill millions any day now and Joe Biden campaigning from his basement, after 47 lackluster years in politics including two failed presidential bids, was able to win 81 million votes. There is so much evidence of fraud in this election that a blind squirrel could find it. And that leaves Red State voters asking each other, “If they can steal an election this brazenly, does it matter if we vote ever again?”
Despite all the evidence, the courts are not interested in even hearing the cases brought before them. The state legislatures appear uninterested in exercising their constitutional duty to oversee the selection of electors in a fair manner. The old guard of the Republican Party can’t seem to surrender fast enough.
But Trump is refusing to concede. In court challenges and through other Constitutional means, Trump is not giving up. And in his fight to stay in office against the powerful forces of tech, media, academia, religion, and the Deep State, his supporters are largely there with him. They are willing to fight for Trump, to turn out at rallies a month after the election, because they feel Trump is willing to fight for them. For decades, the Republican Party’s only use was to negotiate slightly better terms of surrender. The old joke was, “The Democrats propose burning down the country. The Republicans want to phase it in over 5 years!” Trump is by no means perfect, but at least he has shown the courage to withstand vicious attacks that would have cowed most any other Republican into submission. His intestinal fortitude has seeped into the Republican Party as a whole, and the post-Trump party is stronger as a result.
Conservatives are angry at what they perceive as having their votes stolen. And they do love The Fighting Orange Man. But there is another, extremely important reason that conservatives refuse to accept the results of this election. They are terrified that the last year has only been a dress-rehearsal for what comes next.
Conservative Americans realize they are facing the very real threat of being governed by politicians that absolutely hate us and who have no meaningful restraints on their power.
We started out as “deplorables” and have now progressed to “f**kers.” We are even being dehumanized by some writers and cartoonists as “rats.” In the current storm of insults, Trump supporters are even being cast as traitors. At least one Democratic congressman has called for attorneys representing the president in legal challenges to be disbarred and to strip House members who supported Texas v. Pennsylvania in the Supreme Court of their seats in Congress. One of the defendants in that case described it as a “seditious abuse of the judicial process.” Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) went on CNN with this accusation, “These senators and members of Congress who have refused to acknowledge that we had a free and fair election in which Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by over 7 million votes, are bordering on sedition and treason.” Not only can we not get our day in court, even asking for one is tantamount to treason.
These are not necessarily just empty words. In 1918, at a time when our constitutional order was much more robust than today, the Democrats gave us the Sedition Act which made it a felony to criticize the government. More than 2,000 American citizens were arrested and prosecuted pursuant to the Sedition Act before Republicans, victorious in both houses of Congress in the mid-terms, could repeal it. That is just one example of criminalizing dissent. There are many more marring our 240+ year experiment in self-rule. Not only can such things happen in America, they have happened in America.
To cement their power, the Democrats openly discuss transforming our system of government by abolishing the Electoral College, admitting new states to the union to gain permanent control of the Senate, and packing the Supreme Court with reliably liberal votes to rubber stamp everything. Conservatives also hear calls for retribution from progressives that include “re-education,” “truth and reconciliation commissions,” and nationalizing the lockdowns and mask mandates (see ya’ free state of Florida). Those proposals are just for starters, as the in-coming Biden Administration also keeps discussing executive orders to “deal” with gun violence, forgive student loans, and further “reform” the criminal justice system. And the granddaddy of them all – climate change, of course.
Climate activists are chomping at the bit to use the “COVID” model of economic lock downs by executive fiat to combat “climate change.” Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Oregon) in a Washington Post op-ed wrote, “The climate crisis is an emergency, and President-elect Joe Biden needs to treat it that way. That means using every tool available to him, including declaring a national climate emergency and using emergency powers to take unilateral executive action.”
Combatting climate change is central to the The Great Reset, the latest project by very intelligent people to remake the world into a centrally-planned Utopia. The plan started with COVID, but will be completed during the next crisis. The slogan of the project appears to be “Build Back Better,” a line parroted by politicians around the globe. The goal of “building back better” appears to be herding regular people into urban techno-prisons, while the world reverts to an idyllic greenspace for billionaires and their minions to enjoy. Sort of Disney’s Animal Kingdom theme park on a global scale, but without the annoying lines as the average people will all be locked up at home.
Whatever is left of our economy after fighting COVID will surely be finished off fighting climate change.
Conservatives fear they are facing a string of emergency orders that will destroy our economy and rob us of our freedoms. These orders will be issued by politicians with unchecked power, supported by rampaging street mobs, who hate conservatives passionately and consider them sub-humans with no rights. The politicians will be protected from electoral accountability by an intricate system of election rigging hidden in plain sight. This is a nightmare scenario conservatives will be powerless to resist by any legal or constitutional means.
Such fears tend to bring out fanatical tendencies in even the most even-tempered of people."
More at the link.....
Thoughts?WTF?Thoughts?
That is some convoluted, paranoid thinking.
You shriek as if the US has never had a summer of protest and rioting before. As if there has never been widespread civil discontent before. As if this would actually lead to a scene you described from Constantinople.
You are deranged.
You picked a side, and that side hates freedom, and it hates what America is about. You lie to yourselves about that, but it's true. Those of us left who value freedom, who care about the principles our Constitution are based on, well..... we're going to stop you. And we're going to do whatever it takes to do so.
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All you had to do was be honest and play fair; you refuse to. So now, whatever happens is on you.
WTF?It's always hard for people to consider that maybe their actions will have consequences, I guess.
You picked a side, and that side hates freedom, and it hates what America is about. You lie to yourselves about that, but it's true. Those of us left who value freedom, who care about the principles our Constitution are based on, well..... we're going to stop you. And we're going to do whatever it takes to do so.
Whatever the hell that means.All you had to do was be honest and play fair; you refuse to. So now, whatever happens is on you
You’re obviously among the dishonest who are OK with the undermining of the American system. Those numbers alone should warrant investigation for honest people. Add to that the conspicuousness of swing states flipping after midnight and PA violating the US constitution by changing election rules without legislation.No incumbent ever increased his vote total by that much and lost.
And that's your argument?
That's not evidence of anything. A fun fact, maybe, if true. But nothing more.
Go present your fun little trivia to the courts and see if they find it convincing. My guess is they won't, because it's not.
You’re corrupt.
Only uninformed dopes weren’t aware that the absentee and mail in votes could not be counted until the polls closed. Everyone else knew this for months.You’re obviously among the dishonest who are OK with the undermining of the American system. Those numbers alone should warrant investigation for honest people. Add to that the conspicuousness of swing states flipping after midnight and PA violating the US constitution by changing election rules without legislation.
You’re corrupt
I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.I don't care what other people make because I'm not a fucking parasite demanding a cut of it.
Yet it seems like you're quite happy that you bring in more than you pay to our government.
Where do you think that money comes from, friend?
It seems like you enjoy the way our government operates and you're reaping the rewards of it. That's great! I'm happy for you.
Hmm....I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
Me? You want me to stop doing what? Voting for somebody other than Trump? Expressing my thoughtful opinions on USMB ... as is my Constitutional right? Paying my taxes and obeying the law? Your presumption is absurd.Then stop doing things that will make it inevitable.Peter Grant (the blogger and author in question) is a former soldier from South Africa who has seen a lot of civil wars and terrorism in Africa, and he was a federal prison chaplain here in the States.Why do people who have been telling liberals, Democrats, “RINO”s, independents and progressives for four years “Fuck your feelings!” suddenly feel the urge to make threads telling us all how they are ...“feeling”?
Apparently, they are not really “feeling” anything but anger and frustration. They are hyperventilating and fantasizing. Like the “bayourenaissanceman” articles that freyasman provides, they fantasize about terrorism. These are not normal “feelings.” They remind me of the “Fight Club” movie protagonist’s psychotic ravings.
I'm a retired paratrooper and security contractor who has seen a hell of a lot as well, in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, and the aftermath of it in Central America.
bigrebnc1775 is a veteran and former LEO.
There are literally millions of men (and some women too) with similar experiences and backgrounds in this country who have seen this sort of thing play out before, in multiple places around the world, and we know exactly what a shit show this is going to be.
We are the professionals and the subject matter experts here and you are of course dismissing us out of hand....... because you're just fucking stupid. Suicidally so, possibly. You don't know shit and you're behavior is that of a retarded child who is about to find out how hot that stove really is.
Now, we're all very pissed off at the crimes that have been perpetrated against us, and at the folks like you who seem to think it's funny to taunt us about it. So enjoy what's coming to you...... you deserve it all.
I’m not taunting anyone. Just telling it like it is. But I was describing the many ordinary folks who are struggling and yet still losers in this country. I wasn’t talking about people like you — professional cops and soldiers fighting unnecessary wars abroad.
You may have started out a patriot, just trying to make a living and serve your country at the same time. I can understand that. But you’ve become something else. I haven’t much sympathy for you after listening to your rants — unless you’ve been wounded or fucked over especially. I suppose your pension isn’t adequate after all that mercenary service overseas, but you chose your profession — you weren’t drafted.
You talk about civil wars overseas being horrible, but it is you folks who are calling for disregarding a legal electoral process and suggesting civil war here!
No, I have no sympathy at all for anybody who would bring civil war to our country.
I think it was a fraud from the democrat , Biden did said it in a video .
If trump ever said anything like that the Democrat controlled media would run that 24/7 until the end of time
The Art of The Deal.I charge for my service. That was the deal and I kept my end of it even though the government didn't keep their's.Does anyone want a refund?
You're asking if people want to keep more of their money?
Do you seriously not know, friend?
Are you saying I didn't earn this?
Of course not. I think you earned every penny that you worked for.
I'm saying that you're being supported by the government you don't like, which directs funds to you from other patriots like yourself.
Sounds like you got a pretty sweet deal huh? Don't you just love the way our government operates? No wonder you choose to be part of it.
The US Government...... duh.I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.I don't care what other people make because I'm not a fucking parasite demanding a cut of it.
Yet it seems like you're quite happy that you bring in more than you pay to our government.
Where do you think that money comes from, friend?
It seems like you enjoy the way our government operates and you're reaping the rewards of it. That's great! I'm happy for you.Hmm....I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
So you spent a while beating and stabbing folks and getting chased by the cops.
You then became a paratrooper and presumably spent some years in the military.
Then became a security contractor sometime fairly recently as you said you spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When did you do your 20 with the international crime cartel and who is paying you a retirement?
You are supporting the side that believes they can vote themselves into authority over the rest of us; you can't. You wouldn't be able to even in a fair and honest election, you sure as hell aren't going to rig an election through massive fraud, and then declare your guy ruler of us all...... that is a no-go.Me? You want me to stop doing what? Voting for somebody other than Trump? Expressing my thoughtful opinions on USMB ... as is my Constitutional right? Paying my taxes and obeying the law? Your presumption is absurd.Then stop doing things that will make it inevitable.Peter Grant (the blogger and author in question) is a former soldier from South Africa who has seen a lot of civil wars and terrorism in Africa, and he was a federal prison chaplain here in the States.Why do people who have been telling liberals, Democrats, “RINO”s, independents and progressives for four years “Fuck your feelings!” suddenly feel the urge to make threads telling us all how they are ...“feeling”?
Apparently, they are not really “feeling” anything but anger and frustration. They are hyperventilating and fantasizing. Like the “bayourenaissanceman” articles that freyasman provides, they fantasize about terrorism. These are not normal “feelings.” They remind me of the “Fight Club” movie protagonist’s psychotic ravings.
I'm a retired paratrooper and security contractor who has seen a hell of a lot as well, in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, and the aftermath of it in Central America.
bigrebnc1775 is a veteran and former LEO.
There are literally millions of men (and some women too) with similar experiences and backgrounds in this country who have seen this sort of thing play out before, in multiple places around the world, and we know exactly what a shit show this is going to be.
We are the professionals and the subject matter experts here and you are of course dismissing us out of hand....... because you're just fucking stupid. Suicidally so, possibly. You don't know shit and you're behavior is that of a retarded child who is about to find out how hot that stove really is.
Now, we're all very pissed off at the crimes that have been perpetrated against us, and at the folks like you who seem to think it's funny to taunt us about it. So enjoy what's coming to you...... you deserve it all.
I’m not taunting anyone. Just telling it like it is. But I was describing the many ordinary folks who are struggling and yet still losers in this country. I wasn’t talking about people like you — professional cops and soldiers fighting unnecessary wars abroad.
You may have started out a patriot, just trying to make a living and serve your country at the same time. I can understand that. But you’ve become something else. I haven’t much sympathy for you after listening to your rants — unless you’ve been wounded or fucked over especially. I suppose your pension isn’t adequate after all that mercenary service overseas, but you chose your profession — you weren’t drafted.
You talk about civil wars overseas being horrible, but it is you folks who are calling for disregarding a legal electoral process and suggesting civil war here!
No, I have no sympathy at all for anybody who would bring civil war to our country.
Your are just a disgruntled rightwing nutter who served in the military. One of many, I agree. Andrew Carnegie once said he could hire 1/2 of the working class to kill the other half. I’m the other half. You yourself said you were a gunman for a big gangster syndicate of corporations (Uncle Sam). So where is your beef with me and people like me?
Your attitude toward fellow citizens, your absolute sense that you are right and I am wrong, is part and parcel of the bubble of fantasy and paranoia you live in. I accept that there are other real people with different opinions. When you said you and your friends are “professionals” — what did you really mean besides that you were cops and ex-soldiers and have lived in tough neighborhoods?
When the Beast lost it was hard to find even those in your pussy-hat crowd to admit voting for her.I have integrity, and honor, and credibility. When Clinton lost, I accepted it and moved on.
You should do the same.
The US Government...... duh.I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.I don't care what other people make because I'm not a fucking parasite demanding a cut of it.
Yet it seems like you're quite happy that you bring in more than you pay to our government.
Where do you think that money comes from, friend?
It seems like you enjoy the way our government operates and you're reaping the rewards of it. That's great! I'm happy for you.Hmm....I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
So you spent a while beating and stabbing folks and getting chased by the cops.
You then became a paratrooper and presumably spent some years in the military.
Then became a security contractor sometime fairly recently as you said you spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When did you do your 20 with the international crime cartel and who is paying you a retirement?
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.
LOL...The US Government...... duh.
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.
You're pretty damn clueless, aren't you?The US Government...... duh.I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.I don't care what other people make because I'm not a fucking parasite demanding a cut of it.
Yet it seems like you're quite happy that you bring in more than you pay to our government.
Where do you think that money comes from, friend?
It seems like you enjoy the way our government operates and you're reaping the rewards of it. That's great! I'm happy for you.Hmm....I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
So you spent a while beating and stabbing folks and getting chased by the cops.
You then became a paratrooper and presumably spent some years in the military.
Then became a security contractor sometime fairly recently as you said you spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When did you do your 20 with the international crime cartel and who is paying you a retirement?
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.LOL...The US Government...... duh.
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.
You are truly delusional. Insecurity will do that to you. Your “skills” are no better than any other veteran. Get over yourself.
You're pretty damn clueless, aren't you?The US Government...... duh.I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.I don't care what other people make because I'm not a fucking parasite demanding a cut of it.
Yet it seems like you're quite happy that you bring in more than you pay to our government.
Where do you think that money comes from, friend?
It seems like you enjoy the way our government operates and you're reaping the rewards of it. That's great! I'm happy for you.Hmm....I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
So you spent a while beating and stabbing folks and getting chased by the cops.
You then became a paratrooper and presumably spent some years in the military.
Then became a security contractor sometime fairly recently as you said you spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When did you do your 20 with the international crime cartel and who is paying you a retirement?
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.LOL...The US Government...... duh.
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.
You are truly delusional. Insecurity will do that to you. Your “skills” are no better than any other veteran. Get over yourself.
I would say it is you who are clueless if you think anyone believes your nonsense. You do realize that all this posturing will leave you a laughing stock when things don’t pop off the way you describe. Don’t you?You're pretty damn clueless, aren't you?
I suppose a warning sign in front of a mine field would be regarded as "posturing" by you then.You're pretty damn clueless, aren't you?The US Government...... duh.I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.I don't care what other people make because I'm not a fucking parasite demanding a cut of it.
Yet it seems like you're quite happy that you bring in more than you pay to our government.
Where do you think that money comes from, friend?
It seems like you enjoy the way our government operates and you're reaping the rewards of it. That's great! I'm happy for you.Hmm....I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
So you spent a while beating and stabbing folks and getting chased by the cops.
You then became a paratrooper and presumably spent some years in the military.
Then became a security contractor sometime fairly recently as you said you spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When did you do your 20 with the international crime cartel and who is paying you a retirement?
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.LOL...The US Government...... duh.
Makes the Sinaloa Cartel look like a bunch of bumbling amateurs.
You are truly delusional. Insecurity will do that to you. Your “skills” are no better than any other veteran. Get over yourself.I would say it is you who are clueless if you think anyone believes your nonsense. You do realize that all this posturing will leave you a laughing stock when things don’t pop off the way you describe. Don’t you?You're pretty damn clueless, aren't you?
<Pulls on hip waders>I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
What else would you call career military?<Pulls on hip waders>I spent 20 years as muscle for an international crime cartel; I got paid for it.
Suckers and losers?What else would you call career military?
Career criminals is more accurate.Suckers and losers?What else would you call career military?
And here I am.Okay.Sounds to me like you enjoy taunting people from behind a keyboard.
I don't believe you would speak that way to me in person.
You wouldn't talk the way you do in person, so I wouldn't need to. That's the point.
People like you say ridiculous things in message boards, but we both know you wouldn't actually DO any of those things. You're all talk, no action. We call you keyboard warriors.
Sunday afternoon, I'll be at a place called West of the Brazos on 36, near Damon.
Bring your ass.
