Household electricity bills have increased by 10% since Donald Trump re-entered the White House

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Op was lamenting the expense of running our power grids off of non renewable sources

And you replied with a useless non sequitur.

In case his post confused you.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

But Democrats are wrong and dishonest. I will be surprised that once his policies have a chance to work--his first budget won't begin until October--that he doesn't deliver on lowering energy prices. But like everything else these things take some time, especially when the policies because as screwed up as they were under Biden. All the horrors of the Biden Administration didn't happen all at once. Nobody can honorably expect Trump to fix it all, all at once.

The One Big Beautiful Bill, signed into law on July 4, is set to introduce a host of changes to everything from tax reform to government assistance programs to immigration and border policy. It introduces some brand-new policies and expands, restricts, or ends others.



A number of these changes took effect the moment President Trump’s pen struck the dotted line — your 2025 tax return could reflect some of them. Others will go into effect in the coming years, with some not scheduled to arrive until 2028.



This visualization explains what is happening — and when, piece by piece

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Be honest, its not just tariffs.
Clean energy tax credits would have ended sooner or later,
and there's been a much faster rapid expansion of electricity-hungry data centers to fuel a boom in artificial intelligence, than expected. Trump is not to blame for the latter two.

Trump, who promised Day 1 relief and lower prices, talks of a 'transition period'

The president told ABC News that Americans knew what they were signing up for, despite his campaign's pledge to bring down prices immediately.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Renewable Energy Is Now The Cheapest Option - Even Without Subsidies

Over recent years the march towards an energy industry ruled by renewables has been on the agenda of many countries and international bodies. Aside from their non-depleting and replenishing nature, renewable energy is poised to lessen the world's carbon footprint and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

www.forbes.com

Tell me how cheap solar is when you need to run your data center at midnight.

 

[ThisIsMe]

And you replied with a useless non sequitur.

In case his post confused you.

No, hes blaming not using more renewable energy for the rise in electricity costs, I was pointing out that, to use enough wind power to make an effective cost difference, you'd need to seriously increase the power output of wind turbines

 

[EMH]

Nutbag, nobody gives a crap about your stupid deflections.

This thread is about energy prices.

That's a big NO, you are a science invalid parrot of treasonous lies....

 

[EMH]

Just say it, mention trump, becomes fact.






**** you clowns.

Maybe your "superior intellect" on the subject can actually answer a few basic climate questions for us...

Thread 'Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?'

Feb 12, 2024

Apparently not.

Not on Faux

Not on RAV or OANN


What questions will the media never ask?


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



The Co2 Fraud is bilking America out of $200 billion per...

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[Winco]

That's a big NO, you are a science invalid parrot of treasonous lies....

As are you.

 

[berg80]

When Trump takes money away from clean energy, it means fewer wind turbines, solar panels, and energy-saving programs get built.

Trump says U.S. will not approve solar or wind power projects​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/20/trump-says-us-will-not-approve-solar-or-wind-power-projects.html

When I saw that headline I thought it must be a mistake. IMO, it's one of the most consequential things trump has done during 2.0. It goes without saying it's disastrous.

 

[berg80]

But the tech industry’s all-out artificial intelligence push is fueling soaring demand for electricity to run data centers that dot the landscape in Virginia, Ohio and other states. Large, rectangular buildings packed with servers consumed more than 4 percent of the nation’s electricity in 2023, and government analysts estimate that will increase to as much as 12 percent in just three years. That’s partly because computers training and running A.I. systems consume far more energy than machines that stream Netflix or TikTok.

Electricity is essential to their success. Andy Jassy, Amazon’s chief executive, recently told investors that the company could have had higher sales if it had more data centers. “The single biggest constraint,” he said, “is power.”

The rush to build power plants and transmission lines comes as big tech companies are richer than ever because of their pivot to A.I.; after announcing blowout financial results in late July, Microsoft became the second public company to surpass $4 trillion in value.

Even as some corporate customers have been underwhelmed by A.I.’s usefulness so far, tech companies plan to invest hundreds of billions of dollars on it.

At the same time, the boom threatens to drive up power bills for residents and small businesses. Nationally, the average electricity rate for residents has risen more than 30 percent since 2020, after years of relatively modest increases.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/14/business/energy-environment/ai-data-centers-electricity-costs.html

The development of AI technology is changing the world in more ways than one. Dotard's ban on renewable energy makes me think he is getting a kickback from legacy energy companies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But the tech industry’s all-out artificial intelligence push is fueling soaring demand for electricity to run data centers that dot the landscape in Virginia, Ohio and other states. Large, rectangular buildings packed with servers consumed more than 4 percent of the nation’s electricity in 2023, and government analysts estimate that will increase to as much as 12 percent in just three years. That’s partly because computers training and running A.I. systems consume far more energy than machines that stream Netflix or TikTok.

Electricity is essential to their success. Andy Jassy, Amazon’s chief executive, recently told investors that the company could have had higher sales if it had more data centers. “The single biggest constraint,” he said, “is power.”

The rush to build power plants and transmission lines comes as big tech companies are richer than ever because of their pivot to A.I.; after announcing blowout financial results in late July, Microsoft became the second public company to surpass $4 trillion in value.

Even as some corporate customers have been underwhelmed by A.I.’s usefulness so far, tech companies plan to invest hundreds of billions of dollars on it.

At the same time, the boom threatens to drive up power bills for residents and small businesses. Nationally, the average electricity rate for residents has risen more than 30 percent since 2020, after years of relatively modest increases.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/14/business/energy-environment/ai-data-centers-electricity-costs.html

The development of AI technology is changing the world in more ways than one. Dotard's ban on renewable energy makes me think he is getting a kickback from legacy energy companies.

Unreliable wind and solar won't be used for data centers, silly.

How many new nuclear plants should we build?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Tell me how cheap solar is when you need to run your data center at midnight.

Yes, fossil fuel power never fails....

Northeast blackout of 2003 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

By the way....this is a major reason why Trump should be exploring all alternative energy sources, instead of just helping his rich oil and gas buddies. Power consumption is growing in this country every year and electricity is only going to become more expensive without solar and wind.

 

[M14 Shooter]

How many new nuclear plants should we build?

Scores. Hundreds.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, fossil fuel power never fails....

Northeast blackout of 2003 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

By the way....this is a major reason why Trump should be exploring all alternative energy sources, instead of just helping his rich oil and gas buddies. Power consumption is growing in this country every year and electricity is only going to become more expensive without solar and wind.

Solar is never available at midnight, why would you want to run your data center on it?

How many new nuclear reactors should we build?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Solar is never available at midnight, why would you want to run your data center on it?

Who cares? This is stupid argument that only a ******* lightweight dolt would make.

Only a ******* fool doesn't think we should use solar energy during daylight hours. We need to use whatever alternative sources of energy are available, as long as they don't cause extra pollution and death.

How many new nuclear reactors should we build?

None, in my opinion. But you're welcome to put the nuclear in your backyard since you are such a big fan of it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who cares? This is stupid argument that only a ******* lightweight dolt would make.

Only a ******* fool doesn't think we should use solar energy during daylight hours. We need to use whatever alternative sources of energy are available, as long as they don't cause extra pollution and death.


None, in my opinion. But you're welcome to put the nuclear in your backyard since you are such a big fan of it.

Who cares that wind and solar are unreliable?
The people who need power for their data centers you stupid ****.

None, in my opinion.

We've seen how uninformed your opinion is.

But you're welcome to put the nuclear in your backyard since you are such a big fan of it.

We have nuclear power plants all over Illinois.
Never killed anyone.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Who cares that wind and solar are unreliable?
The people who need power for their data centers you stupid ****.

Same stupid gomer argument from the same stupid MAGA simp.

Fossil fuel energy is also unreliable, dolt.....as proven numerous times in this country during summer blackouts.

You don't care about reliability....if you did, then you can't argue against solar energy during daylight hours, imbecile.

But you're welcome to put the nuclear in your backyard since you are such a big fan of it.

We have nuclear power plants all over Illinois.
Never killed anyone.

Then put the nuclear waste in your backyard, imbecile.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Same stupid gomer argument from the same stupid MAGA simp.

Fossil fuel energy is also unreliable, dolt.....as proven numerous times in this country during summer blackouts.

You don't care about reliability....if you did, then you can't argue against solar energy during daylight hours, imbecile.


Then put the nuclear waste in your backyard, imbecile.

Fossil fuel energy is also unreliable, dolt.....as proven numerous times in this country during summer blackouts.

Much more reliable than solar.

You don't care about reliability....if you did, then you can't argue against solar energy during daylight hours, imbecile.

I do care about reliability, so do data centers.
That's why they won't depend on solar power.

Then put the nuclear waste in your backyard, imbecile.

All the waste is already stored on site you silly ****.

 

[drudge X]

Lol… my bill went from less than $100 or to $115 before Biden got in office. For years later, my bill shot up 100% but leftists are complaining about a 10% increase.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I do care about reliability, so do data centers.
That's why they won't depend on solar power.

No, you don't. If you did care about reliability, then you would favor anything that augments fossil fuels....like solar and wind power.

You're full of shit and you know it.....just a worthless little ******* troll as usual.