House votes to REMOVE all Confederate statues from Congress

It's symbolic, and that's OK. Symbols can be important. See 'American Flag'. The Star of David. The Cross.

These statutes are symbols that those states that put 'em there thought were important at the time. Whether any northern or 'Yankee' views objected to 'em going up at the time, I dunno.
But times change. Dynamics change. And the Lost Cause myth has been debunked. If any of these men actively sought to tear apart the United States....out they go. Good riddance. Put 'em in a park for such traitors. (visiting Budapest a couple of years ago, our friend informed us that all of the Communist symbols...and the two cities were rife with 'em.....but the big well known statues and stars were all removed and set up in a park just for them. I dunno if it is a private park or a state park. )

True this, from poster 'bendog':

"Jefferson Davis and James George have no business being remembered in the capital."
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  • Interesting....... erase our country's history. Pretty sure that the Communists did similar.
  • "Erasing history changes nothing but your feelings."
  • "Maybe it is the fact that history is being cancelled"
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  • History can't be changed or cancelled; it is what it is. To think otherwise exposes the lack of education of the proponent.
  • When I was taught history we used stuff called books. Statues not so much.
Would Germany hold onto the swastika? Not many Germans found national socialism offensive even when the holocaust was clearly "doing its thing." Davis never repudiated slavery. George led what became Jim Crow. They may not have been any more evil than their fellow white citizens at the time, but it has to be offensive to many citizens for their statues to represent the state today.

I think I saw Missouri was taking out Thomas Hart Benton's statue for Truman. Benton was a primary mover of westward expansion in the 19th cent. I'm sure native americans don't revere him, but his life's work was not to directly dehumanize them.

When is the best time to remove statues of treasonous racists from the halls of government?

I would say now is the best time.

  • 'Let me state a simple fact. All the statues being removed by this bill are statues of Democrats,' House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said before the vote
Then Republicans should be in favor of it.
“When is the best time to remove statues of treasonous racists from the halls of government?”

Probably when you have a Kenyan President...no?
Question for you....Will all the senseless theatrics improve black behavior?

Can't speak to this changing anything, but I'm sure black Democrats will be happy to know that slaveholders are not standing watch over these halls any longer. Can't say how Tim Scott will feel.

I am not in favor of canceling history, nor am I in favor of exalting treasonous racists. I don't think you'll find statues of Rommel and Guderian in the Reichstag.
It's really interesting how the Trump Cult refers to "changing or cancelling history." History can't be changed or cancelled; it is what it is. To think otherwise exposes the lack of education of the proponent.
When I was taught history we used stuff called books. Statues not so much.
HaHaHa, you are ridiculous, Are you saying there are no statues in the UK? Get real.
Nope that isnt what I am saying. What I am saying is that statues arent history. History is history and cant be erased . Statues are for birds to shit on.
Nice try at backtracking, FAIL. From your post--Statues not so much.
 
When is the best time to remove statues of treasonous racists from the halls of government?

I would say now is the best time.

  • 'Let me state a simple fact. All the statues being removed by this bill are statues of Democrats,' House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said before the vote
Then Republicans should be in favor of it.
“When is the best time to remove statues of treasonous racists from the halls of government?”

Probably when you have a Kenyan President...no?
Question for you....Will all the senseless theatrics improve black behavior?

Can't speak to this changing anything, but I'm sure black Democrats will be happy to know that slaveholders are not standing watch over these halls any longer. Can't say how Tim Scott will feel.

I am not in favor of canceling history, nor am I in favor of exalting has been treasonous racists. I don't think you'll find statues of Rommel and Guderian in the Reichstag.
It's really interesting how the Trump Cult refers to "changing or cancelling history." History can't be changed or cancelled; it is what it is. To think otherwise exposes the lack of education of the proponent.
When I was taught history we used stuff called books. Statues not so much.
HaHaHa, you are ridiculous, Are you saying there are no statues in the UK? Get real.
Nope that isnt what I am saying. What I am saying is that statues arent history. History is history and cant be erased . Statues are for birds to shit on.

So that is where Nancy Pelosi has been going while in the House?
 
I guess now, slavery never happened and the Civil War was fought for nothing. Can Germany now raze the concentration camps? 'Never forget' is now changed to 'It never happened' I guess....:dunno: These monuments are not there for us to celebrate they are there to remind us of the evil humans are capable of so that we don't forget.
 
People who denigrate CRT do it every day.
No, CRT is trying to create a false reality. Most Americans are not racist. The ones pushing CRT are the racists. As usual you got it backwards.
Which bit shows that they are racist ?
Your view of history is moulded by white supremacist thinking. The truth was rather different.
 
Interesting that 120 Republicans voted against this campaign to tear down these statues of Democrats and erase our country's history.

Pretty sure that the Communists did similar.

House votes to REMOVE all Confederate statues from Congress and replace a bust of Chief Justice Roger Taney with Thurgood Marshall - despite opposition from 120 Republicans​

  • Bill will remove statues and busts of Confederacy supporters from Congress
  • It includes a bust of Roger Taney, the U.S. chief justice best known for his Dred Scott pro-slavery decision
  • The statue of the President of the Confederacy Jefferson Davis will also go
  • Democrats were unanimous in their support for the bill and were joined by 67 Republicans, with the bill passed by a vote of 285-120.
  • 'Let me state a simple fact. All the statues being removed by this bill are statues of Democrats,' House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said before the vote
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They are just redecorating Fort Pelosi in the Banana Republic on Capitol Hill.

The funny thing is that they will encourage you to fight with each other over it,
and pretend they are doing anything other than keeping you exactly where you are in the Establishment.

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Rebels wanted to burn down Washington DC?

I think you have the wrong war.

That was the British.
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The British did burn the White House in that War, but got their asses whipped when they tried that shit in New Orleans ...
Which is precisely why, aside from all efforts attempted otherwise, Andrew Jackson's Statue still stands in Jackson Square ... :thup:



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History is history and cant be erased .

SJWs do it every day at Wikipedia.
People who denigrate CRT do it every day.


Damned right. I will do it everyday from this point until it is abolished.
Because you only want your truth to be taught ? That is not really an American stTance.

but got their asses whipped when they tried that shit in New Orleans ..1814.
In 1814 we took a little trip along with Col. Jackson down the Mighty Mississip
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in a town near New Orleans
They ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
 
In 1814 we took a little trip along with Col. Jackson down the Mighty Mississip
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in a town near New Orleans
They ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
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We fired our guns till the barrels melted down
We grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
Stuffed his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind
When we set the powder off, the gator lost his mind ... :auiqs.jpg:

There might not be much truth in that Lost Verse.

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In 1814 we took a little trip along with Col. Jackson down the Mighty Mississip
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in a town near New Orleans
They ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where the rabbits couldn't go
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
.

We fired our cannons till the barrels melted down
Grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
Stuffed his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind
When we set the powder off, the gator lost his mind ... :auiqs.jpg:

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Welllll!
 
Pretty sure that the Communists did similar.
This is a lie.

The vote reflects the will of the people as conducted by their elected representatives.
Are you another one of those low-IQ people who, when they think someone is incorrect, call them a liar?

Do you not see that the sentence begins "Pretty sure?" That means it is my opinion.

Anyway, you are the one who is misinformed. Let me educate you, instead of calling you a liar...

In China's cultural revolution, Maoists went around the country eradicating the country's past.

Marxists like you (that's an assumption on my part; perhaps you are simply a clueless keyboard warrior who had too much soy today) are doing it today in America...

 

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