House passes Big, Beautiful Bill

[justoffal]

If you don't want lower taxes, you're more then welcome to donate more of your income to the government.

Nobody's stopping you.

No you don't get it. He wants more of your paycheck. When we start talking about his wallet it all changes

 

[leftwinger]

There IS a reason.

We cannot afford it.

Stop the $1T-$2T in waste & theft. Shrink existing GOVT costs. Then see what needs tweaking. Private do it every 12 months if things are going down or sideways.

Send out import criminals. Freeloading scam artist…goodbye too. Then see whats left? Easy w/o communist D embedded into our courts & GOVT.

 

[Marener]

What other things?

We cannot afford a meat pie from a flea market.

The word broke means that we have zero money.

What happens when you have zero money? In government, that means they print more of it.

When that happens, the value for EVERY FUCKING THING goes down.

The young generation cannot buy homes, food, rent, education.

It affects every thing we do.

GOVERNMENT MUST BE CUT. The printing of MONEY must stop.

The bill increases the deficit by about $3 trillion.

We can afford tax deductions for ATVs but not healthcare for poor Americans.

Just stop pretending like you guys care about the debt. You obviously dont.

Just say the truth.

 

[Oddball]

There are no “TaxCuts” correct? Simply keeping 2017 numbers? But for fringe improvements like no tax on tips? I am certain that was unrnforcable tpe nightmare for IRS with likes of AOC cheating while being a cocktail waitress.

Exactly....The status quo was maintained, and the fanboys are acting like they hit a lotto jackpot.

Makes me sick.l

 

[Moonglow]

So Trump does nothing different; he puts on a show when he does it.

 

[Darkwind]

The bill increases the deficit by about $3 trillion.

We can afford tax deductions for ATVs but not healthcare for poor Americans.

Just stop pretending like you guys care about the debt. You obviously dont.

Just say the truth.

How does the bill increase a deficit if it is cutting spending?

Or are you people just screaming that in order to scare people?

There should be zero tax cuts. But ALSO, there should be 75% cuts in spending across the entire board.

 

[leftwinger]

Again, is this simply to run out Obiden 2.0 obligated spending on the final “budget” the crooks put into place?

ALL the USAID, SS, Pentagon & medical fraud & waste is baked in?

After this? In OCT we get real cuts from the dirty deep state? Is that what they primise again?

 

[Lesh]

If something is big and beautiful, you don't bring it up for a vote, after midnight!

So what does this bill do?

Tax cuts for the rich

Takes away healthcare for millions

Jumps the debt up Bigly

Wonderful

 

[Marener]

How does the bill increase a deficit if it is cutting spending?

Or are you people just screaming that in order to scare people?

There should be zero tax cuts. But ALSO, there should be 75% cuts in spending across the entire board.

It would help if you had any knowledge of the topic before engaging in a thread about it.

 

[justoffal]

Exactly....The status quo was maintained, and the fanboys are acting like they hit a lotto jackpot.

Makes me sick.l

Yep

 

[Oddball]

If you don't want lower taxes, you're more then welcome to donate more of your income to the government.

Nobody's stopping you.

Except for overtime and tips, there are no lower taxes for anyone...Even the Social Security tax elimination got abandoned.

All this 1000+ page shit heap did was maintain the status quo, and you MAGA fanboys act like you scored the winning Super Bowl touchdown.

You got rolled again, pal.

 

[leftwinger]

People just post willy-nilly numbers like $3T debt increase! $500B medicaid cut from the poor! Huh? Unlikely both are true you dumb Oxyen.

$3T over what time frame? Wheres the before -after facts with links.

 

[jc456]

Oh, so you got the status quo....You didn't move the metaphorical football ONE FUCKING INCH in the direction of fiscal sanity.

Gawd, are you MAGAfolk fucking cheap dates.

Again, what are you willing to lose? I'm not ready to lose everything. you? It's called negotiating. no one gets everything. No one. Start voting for congressional people that fits you. Oh wait, you and I only get to vote for one rep and senators. So when can we vote for everyone in the congress? Again, you're sounding like a demofk. wow. You???????

 

[SweetTea]

But we can afford all the other bullshit Republicans want?

It’s not a reason.

You mean like no tax on tips or overtime? That is taking less money from people who earned it not giving more free stuff to people who didn't. Therein lies the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

 

[leftwinger]

So what does this bill do?

Tax cuts for the rich

Takes away healthcare for millions

Jumps the debt up Bigly

Wonderful

Nice words you brown-backed sweat hog. Get off the boards with your MSLSD nonsense.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

13 million people lose their healthcare in this bill as is....while those making more than $500,000 A year get their beloved tax cuts.

The Medicaid cuts are making able-bodied people work. What a concept! The alleged cuts to taxes of those making over 500K had to be included or it wouldn't pass and involve higher deductions for state taxes paid in blue states.

 

[Winston]

It’s a big help to the working and middle class, who will see a big tax increase averted. It’s a help to the lower-income since they won’t pay tax on tips or overtime. And it’s a help to ALL Americans by keeping the border secure and deporting illegals.

Those big tax increases being adverted was just a damn accounting gimmick used to pass Trump's first tax cuts. As Oddball has pointed out, extending them is not a cut, it is a continuation of the status quo. Funny how Republican use the CBO baseline when it suits their messaging, ignores it when it doesn't.

No taxes on tips or overtime? Boy howdy, that one is going to come back and bite you Trumpnuts in the ass. First, who pays federal income taxes on tips now? I mean you got to be on the high end of the server pay scale to even pay taxes. I would venture less than one in ten. But, those claimed tips, they are FICA taxed, and they are what your future retirement is based on. Does that go away too?

And overtime. Well Trump gets his way, make over thirty grand a year, well you don't get overtime. You become "exempt". Or you can be forced to work 60 hours this week and 20 next, no overtime.

 

[jc456]

Except for overtime and tips, there are no lower taxes for anyone...Even the Social Security tax elimination got abandoned.

the entire campaign was to make the 2017 taxes permanent. There was never a point to decrease taxes. None.

All this 1000+ shit heap did was maintain the status quo, ant you MAGA fanboys act like you scored the winning Super Bowl touchdown.

No it didn't, it helps tips and SS from taxes. Why is that nothing to you?

You got rolled again, pal.

nope, doing nothing reverted taxes back to before 2017 taxes. I didn't lose there. Again, the party I know picks their battles.

 

[Darkwind]

It would help if you had any knowledge of the topic before engaging in a thread about it.

It would help if you trusted information other than the propaganda being fed to you by the left.

 

[Oddball]

Again, what are you willing to lose? I'm not ready to lose everything. you? It's called negotiating. no one gets everything. No one. Start voting for congressional people that fits you. Oh wait, you and I only get to vote for one rep and senators. So when can we vote for everyone in the congress? Again, you're sounding like a demofk. wow. You???????

You "negotiated" and didn't move the football ONE FUCKING INCH!

You're the cheapest fucking date in town.