House passes Big, Beautiful Bill

[Oddball]

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MSNBC’s Morning Joe: The House’s Big Budget Bill | Steve Rattner

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Another stone lie.

From a zero baseline, there is no tax cut....The 2017 cuts are being maintained.

 

[Care4all]

We're celebrating today!

Oh, shud up!

 

[Oddball]

ACA was another "big beautiful bill", passed on a party-line vote. Same shit, different party.

In the dead of night on Christmas Eve, no less.

The Party Men are shameless.

 

[jc456]

How many lies are you going to fall for?

what don't you like here?

Key Provisions of the Legislation:

• Tax reforms: The bill seeks to make permanent the tax cuts introduced in 2017 and introduces new exemptions for tips and overtime pay. It also increases the standard and child tax deductions temporarily and raises the cap on state and local tax (SALT) deductions.
• Defense and border security: Allocates nearly $150 billion to defense, including funding for a missile defense shield and naval expansion. Additionally, it provides $46.5 billion for border security measures, such as constructing barriers and enhancing surveillance.
• Social program adjustments: Implements stricter work requirements for food aid and Medicaid, potentially reducing coverage for millions. The bill also cuts Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood and introduces $1,000 "Trump" savings accounts for children born between 2024 and 2028.
• Education and energy policies: Revamps student loan programs, imposes taxes on large university endowments, and facilitates increased fossil fuel extraction on public lands. It also eliminates clean energy tax credits established under previous administrations.
• Seniors: The bill provides a $4,000 deduction for people aged 65 and older, applicable to both standard and itemized deductions. The deduction is available to single filers with a modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) of $75,000 or less, and to married couples filing jointly with a MAGI of $150,000 or less.

 

[Rawley]

Oh, shud up!

It's a great day for everyone. Your cult was voting for the biggest tax increase in history.

 

[Oddball]

what don't you like here?

Key Provisions of the Legislation:

• Tax reforms: The bill seeks to make permanent the tax cuts introduced in 2017 and introduces new exemptions for tips and overtime pay. It also increases the standard and child tax deductions temporarily and raises the cap on state and local tax (SALT) deductions.
• Defense and border security: Allocates nearly $150 billion to defense, including funding for a missile defense shield and naval expansion. Additionally, it provides $46.5 billion for border security measures, such as constructing barriers and enhancing surveillance.
• Social program adjustments: Implements stricter work requirements for food aid and Medicaid, potentially reducing coverage for millions. The bill also cuts Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood and introduces $1,000 "Trump" savings accounts for children born between 2024 and 2028.
• Education and energy policies: Revamps student loan programs, imposes taxes on large university endowments, and facilitates increased fossil fuel extraction on public lands. It also eliminates clean energy tax credits established under previous administrations.
• Seniors: The bill provides a $4,000 deduction for people aged 65 and older, applicable to both standard and itemized deductions. The deduction is available to single filers with a modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) of $75,000 or less, and to married couples filing jointly with a MAGI of $150,000 or less.

It took over 1000 pages to get that?

Fucking cheap date.

 

[Winston]

Illegals can not get MEDICAID.

There are not many able bodied not working....many states eliminated welfare for the able bodied already....my state did years ago.

This is MEDICAID and food assistance for AMERICANS....children, seniors who need help paying the Medicare fees and deductibles and monthly premiums who are our poorest, the disabled get health assistance through MEDICAID, and the working poor whose employers do not offer health care benefits, who earn too little to qualify for Obamacare...which has a minimum amount that you have to earn...while making too much to qualify for MEDICAID healthcare....

To do this to them, and make their taxes go up with tariff taxes on purchases all for the taxable earnings over $500,000 people to hold on to their expiring tax cuts over that amount,

Is avarice beyond comprehension, to me....

The biggest thing Medicaid spends money on, nursing homes. That is how sad we are as a country. I mean the percentages are through the roof. Medicaid spends money warehousing people waiting to die because we, as a society, can't allow them to die with dignity.

We need change. Pretty obvious where we need to start.

 

[dblack]

While collecting revenue is the primary reason behind taxes, controlling behavior comes in a close second.

No, no. A thousand times no. That's not why we grant the power of taxation to our government. Using tax policy as a backdoor means of controlling people is an abuse of the taxation power. Taxes are levied to fund the legitimate operation of the government, not to reward your friends and punish your enemies. Not to "incentivize" people to do what want and penalize them when they don't.

 

[Lesh]

If the Dems succeed in blocking this bill, then taxes WILL ago up on the majority of Americans.

Nope.

 

[jc456]

It took over 1000 pages to get that?

Fucking cheap date.

so you don't support what I posted? that had no interest for you? Do you have the pages?

 

[Lesh]

Remember like 6 months ago when Republicans whined about bills being too big and having too many elements? They’re always so full of shit.

And being passed “In the dark of night “

 

[Oddball]

so you don't support what I posted? that had no interest for you? Do you have the pages?

If that's the bait you got in 1000+ pages, what's the switch?

You think I just fell out of the stoopit tree?

 

[jc456]

If that's the bait you got in 1000+ pages, what's the switch?

You think I just fell out of the stoopit tree?

I wanted to know if you looked at the 1000+ pages, did you?

well there's also this,

White House pledges executive action on Medicaid in the coming weeks, Rep. Chip Roy says

Rep. Chip Roy said Thursday he felt comfortable voting for President Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill,” in part, because the White House promised executive orders to address some of the lawmaker’s concerns about Medicaid spending.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[JGalt]

Except for overtime and tips, there are no lower taxes for anyone...Even the Social Security tax elimination got abandoned.

All this 1000+ page shit heap did was maintain the status quo, and you MAGA fanboys act like you scored the winning Super Bowl touchdown.

You got rolled again, pal.

Actually, the bill rolled back the $600 cap on receiving money from payment processors like Ebay and Venmo. Once the bill gets passed, old retired people can sell up to $20,000 without having to file a 1099-k.

 

[leftwinger]

So tax cuts for the wealthy are paid for by regressive sales taxes?

Thank Piglousy & Upchuck for that in 2017. Their phones lit up with Coastal elitist complaining about $q10K SALT cap. So they snuck it in last minute, last two weeks or “shut down the GOVT”. All problems are deep state created. Normal people sometimes forced to go along with it, to get big ticket items. Upper brackets fund all taxes anyways. Just 1.5% less at the $450K level. Not many file income tax at that level.

 

[g5000]

what don't you like here?

More than $3 trillion of additional debt, that's what.

As I have pointed out many, many, many times, you tards NEVER complain when a Republican adds to the debt.

Not even when they add more than their predecessor, which they always do.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Thank Piglousy & Upchuck for that in 2017. Their phones lit up with Coastal elitist complaining about $q10K SALT cap. So they snuck it in last minute, last two weeks or “shut down the GOVT”. All problems are deep state created. Normal people sometimes forced to go along with it, to get big ticket items. Upper brackets fund all taxes anyways. Just 1.5% less at the $450K level. Not many file income tax at that level.

That was eight years ago, and the BBB is not fixing that.

 

[leftwinger]

The biggest thing Medicaid spends money on, nursing homes. That is how sad we are as a country. I mean the percentages are through the roof. Medicaid spends money warehousing people waiting to die because we, as a society, can't allow them to die with dignity.

We need change. Pretty obvious where we need to start.

Fraud. Covering 10 million illegals. Pound sand. Winston kills.

 

[g5000]

7 million Americans will lose their Medicaid coverage and have no health insurance, just so Elon Musk can have a tax cut. That's Trump and his idea of cutting waste.

We are a plutocracy.

 

[leftwinger]

More than $3 trillion of additional debt, that's what.

As I have pointed out many, many, many times, you tards NEVER complain when a Republican adds to the debt.

Not even when they add more than their predecessor, which they always do.

Nothing is added yet. You just post your hopes and dreams. All this is is continuing 2017 Tax cuts and stop some funding for Obiden illegals gaming the system for all you know. GDP might pop and wash it out.