House Democrats unveil health care reform plan

[Gunny]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- House Democrats unveiled their revised version of health care reform Tuesday, offering a proposal that includes a government-funded health insurance option, requires both individuals and employers to participate, and taxes the wealthy to help cover costs.

Democratic House leaders said the measure, titled "America's Affordable Health Choices Act," met the requirements set by President Obama for health care reform by lowering costs to consumers and businesses, letting people keep their current plan if desired, and preventing denial of coverage due to pre-existing medical conditions.

House Democrats unveil health care reform plan - CNN.com

What a joke. "... requires both individuals and employers to participate," and "America's Affordable Choices Act" seem to contradict one another.

Screw this. This IS still the United States of America, isn't it? NOTHING about this crap belongs HERE.

 

[alan1]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- House Democrats unveiled their revised version of health care reform Tuesday, offering a proposal that includes a government-funded health insurance option, requires both individuals and employers to participate, and taxes the wealthy to help cover costs.

Democratic House leaders said the measure, titled "America's Affordable Health Choices Act," met the requirements set by President Obama for health care reform by lowering costs to consumers and businesses, letting people keep their current plan if desired, and preventing denial of coverage due to pre-existing medical conditions.

House Democrats unveil health care reform plan - CNN.com

What a joke. "... requires both individuals and employers to participate," and "America's Affordable Choices Act" seem to contradict one another.

Screw this. This IS still the United States of America, isn't it? NOTHING about this crap belongs HERE.

Fuck you.
You will participate in this health care plan whether you want to not. The government says so.

 

[Terry]

when they pass this bill every fucking American will have their first enema via congress

 

[Gunny]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- House Democrats unveiled their revised version of health care reform Tuesday, offering a proposal that includes a government-funded health insurance option, requires both individuals and employers to participate, and taxes the wealthy to help cover costs.

Democratic House leaders said the measure, titled "America's Affordable Health Choices Act," met the requirements set by President Obama for health care reform by lowering costs to consumers and businesses, letting people keep their current plan if desired, and preventing denial of coverage due to pre-existing medical conditions.

House Democrats unveil health care reform plan - CNN.com

What a joke. "... requires both individuals and employers to participate," and "America's Affordable Choices Act" seem to contradict one another.

Screw this. This IS still the United States of America, isn't it? NOTHING about this crap belongs HERE.

Fuck you.
You will participate in this health care plan whether you want to not. The government says so.

We'll see .

Just another retarded Democrat idea.

 

[alan1]

when they pass this bill every fucking American will have their first enema via congress

I want a reach around, dammit.

 

[Gunny]

when they pass this bill every fucking American will have their first enema via congress

I've actually been eyeballing some land in Costa Rica.

 

[alan1]

What a joke. "... requires both individuals and employers to participate," and "America's Affordable Choices Act" seem to contradict one another.

Screw this. This IS still the United States of America, isn't it? NOTHING about this crap belongs HERE.

Fuck you.
You will participate in this health care plan whether you want to not. The government says so.

We'll see .

Just another retarded Democrat idea.

So was Social Security.

 

[Dr.House]

Next week's bill sponsored by House Democratics will require all Americans to wear gray jumpsuits with the Ossiah's logo...

Resistance will be dealt with severely...

 

[Gunny]

Amazing. Is healthcare guaranteed in the US Constitution?

Didn't think so.

Congress once again steps outside its bounds.

 

[Terry]

when they pass this bill every fucking American will have their first enema via congress

I've actually been eyeballing some land in Costa Rica.

OMG someone has a big mouth...uh huh...someone like...never mind...

 

[alan1]

Amazing. Is healthcare guaranteed in the US Constitution?

Didn't think so.

Congress once again steps outside its bounds.

Some asshole will claim "general welfare" in 4....3.....2.....1

 

[Dr.House]

Amazing. Is healthcare guaranteed in the US Constitution?

Didn't think so.

Congress once again steps outside its bounds.

Yes, it's in the Sotomayor version...

You know, the "Living/Breathing" version....

 

[Gunny]

Amazing. Is healthcare guaranteed in the US Constitution?

Didn't think so.

Congress once again steps outside its bounds.

Yes, it's in the Sotomayor version...

You know, the "Living/Breathing" version....

There is no living breathing any-damned-thing. That's just progressive bullshit attempting to justify their misinterpreting it any way they get the urge to.

 

[Meister]

Looks like the pot holes have really increased in size on this bumpy road. It really seems Obama is more interested in his timetable than to really get it right. Looks like there will be severe penalities for non compliance to his demands. Sounds like it will be a complete takeover in the next few years with the demands that will be put on the employer.

-- Required participation by individuals, with a penalty of 2.5 percent of adjusted gross income for non-compliance.

House Republican Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia argued that the current economic conditions mean Congress should take its time on a major overhaul of the health care system.

"There's no need for us to be rushing into passing legislation before the end of this month at the potential cost of, really, millions of jobs," Cantor said Tuesday.

A CNN-Opinion Research Corp. survey released July 1 found that a slim majority -- 51 percent -- support Obama's health care plans, but most worry that their costs would go up, and only one in five think their families would be better off.
House Democrats unveil health care reform plan - CNN.com

Personally, I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep my private insurance the way this is worded by the dems. Just sayin....

 

[Vel]

Specific provisions of the bill include:
-- A Health Insurance Exchange providing individuals and small business with choices for coverage, including a government-funded public option.
-- No more coverage exclusion for pre-existing conditions.
-- Affordability credits for low- and moderate-income individuals and families, available to those with incomes up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level, or $43,000 for individuals and $88,000 for a family of four.
-- Limits on annual out-of-pocket spending.
-- Expanded Medicaid coverage to individuals and families with incomes at or below 133 percent of the federal poverty level.
-- Required participation by individuals, with a penalty of 2.5 percent of adjusted gross income for non-compliance.
-- Requirement that businesses with payrolls exceeding $250,000 provide their employees with health coverage or contribute up to 8 percent of their payroll on their behalf.-- A series of measures intended to reduce costs of Medicaid, Medicare and other existing systems.



House Democrats unveil health care reform plan - CNN.com


Hmm.. Looks like good incentive to keep payroll BELOW $250,000

 

[Dr.House]

Amazing. Is healthcare guaranteed in the US Constitution?

Didn't think so.

Congress once again steps outside its bounds.

Yes, it's in the Sotomayor version...

You know, the "Living/Breathing" version....

There is no living breathing any-damned-thing. That's just progressive bullshit attempting to justify their misinterpreting it any way they get the urge to.

You mean we're NOT supposed to look towards the laws of other countries when deciding the Constitutional standing of cases brought in front of the 9 unelected justices of the United States Supreme Court?

You mean we're NOT supposed to search our feelings and political ideologies in deciding the Constitutionality of said cases?


Gasp!


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[Gunny]

Looks like the pot holes have really increased in size on this bumpy road. It really seems Obama is more interested in his timetable than to really get it right. Looks like there will be severe penalities for non compliance to his demands. Sounds like it will be a complete takeover in the next few years with the demands that will be put on the employer.

-- Required participation by individuals, with a penalty of 2.5 percent of adjusted gross income for non-compliance.

House Republican Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia argued that the current economic conditions mean Congress should take its time on a major overhaul of the health care system.

"There's no need for us to be rushing into passing legislation before the end of this month at the potential cost of, really, millions of jobs," Cantor said Tuesday.

A CNN-Opinion Research Corp. survey released July 1 found that a slim majority -- 51 percent -- support Obama's health care plans, but most worry that their costs would go up, and only one in five think their families would be better off.
House Democrats unveil health care reform plan - CNN.com

Personally, I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep my private insurance the way this is worded by the dems. Just sayin....

Employers will lay off employees to compensate for the loss. That's simple math. It could also be the impetus fo rmore corporations to move overseas.

But then, that seems to be the whole goal here .... a welfare state completely dependent on the government for everything. What a sick parody our government has become.

 

[Meister]

Amazing. Is healthcare guaranteed in the US Constitution?

Didn't think so.

Congress once again steps outside its bounds.

The Constitution is a document that was to be considered "etched in stone." So power mongers in couldn't distort what was written within its four borders.
The progressives seem to believe that it's a living document that was to morph as the times change. The stupidity of the American people in the last election to give the democrats the complete power over America is really coming back to haunt everyone, except the socialists, and communists. I really hope the "Blue Dog Democrats" rise above this, but I really have doubts.

 

[AVG-JOE]

What a joke. "... requires both individuals and employers to participate," and "America's Affordable Choices Act" seem to contradict one another.

Screw this. This IS still the United States of America, isn't it? NOTHING about this crap belongs HERE.

Fuck you.
You will participate in this health care plan whether you want to not. The government says so.

We'll see .

Just another retarded Democrat idea.

I don't know Gunny... We appear to have equal opportunity bullshit flowing freely from both sides of the aisle and the insurance lobby seems to be the only variable not affected negatively by the equation.

It isn't retarded Democrat -vs- retarded Republican anymore. The whole fucking congress needs to be relieved of duty for treason against the peoples treasury.

IMHO

-Joe

 

[Gunny]

Yes, it's in the Sotomayor version...

You know, the "Living/Breathing" version....

There is no living breathing any-damned-thing. That's just progressive bullshit attempting to justify their misinterpreting it any way they get the urge to.

You mean we're NOT supposed to look towards the laws of other countries when deciding the Constitutional standing of cases brought in front of the 9 unelected justices of the United States Supreme Court?

You mean we're NOT supposed to search our feelings and political ideologies in deciding the Constitutionality of said cases?


Gasp!


</end sarcasm>

Neither has a thing to do with interpreting written law. It says what it says. Simple as that. Reading into it to support a personal agenda is bullshit.