House conservatives prep plans to impeach Biden

[bodecea]

Neither party wants to act like adults anymore, shameful-OG

Republicans hoping to seize control of the House in November are already setting their sights on what is, for many of them, a top priority next year: impeaching President Biden.

A number of rank-and-file conservatives have already introduced impeachment articles in the current Congress against the president. They accuse Biden of committing “high crimes” in his approach to a range of issues touching on border enforcement, the coronavirus pandemic and the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

Those resolutions never had a chance of seeing the light of day, with Democrats holding a narrow control of the lower chamber. But with Republicans widely expected to win the House majority in the midterms, many of those same conservatives want to tap their new potential powers to oust a president they deem unfit. Some would like to make it a first order of business.

“I have consistently said President Biden should be impeached for intentionally opening our border and making Americans less safe,” said Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.). “Congress has a duty to hold the President accountable for this and any other failures of his Constitutional responsibilities, so a new Republican majority must be prepared to aggressively conduct oversight on day one.”

The conservative impeachment drive is reminiscent of that orchestrated by liberals four years ago, as Democrats took control of the House in 2019 under then-President Trump. At the time, a small handful of vocal progressives wanted to impeach Trump, largely over accusations that he’d obstructed a Justice Department probe into Russian ties to his 2016 campaign. The idea was repeatedly rejected by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), not least out of fear that it would alienate voters in tough battleground districts.

The tide turned when a whistleblower accused Trump of pressuring a foreign power to find dirt on his political opponent — a charge that brought centrist Democrats onto the impeachment train. With moderates on board, Pelosi launched a formal impeachment inquiry in September of 2019, eight months after taking the Speaker’s gavel. Three months later, the House impeached Trump on two counts related to abusing power.

The difference between then and now is that liberals, in early 2019, were fighting a lonely battle with scant support. This year, heading into the midterms, dozens of conservatives have either endorsed Biden’s impeachment formally, or have suggested they’re ready to support it.

At least eight resolutions to impeach Biden have been offered since he took office: Three related to his handling of the migrant surge at the southern border; three targeting his management of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan last year; one denouncing the eviction moratorium designed to help renters during the pandemic; and still another connected to the overseas business dealings of his son, Hunter Biden.

Those proposals will expire with the end of this Congress. But some of the sponsors are already vowing to revisit them quickly next year. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), the lead sponsor of four of the impeachment resolutions, is among them.

“She believes Joe Biden should have been impeached as soon as he was sworn in, so of course she wants it to happen as soon as possible,” Nick Dyer, a Greene spokesman, said Monday in an email.

A noisy impeachment push from the GOP’s right flank could create headaches for Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), the Republican leader in line to be Speaker, and other party brass just as the 2024 presidential cycle heats up.

On the one hand, impeaching Biden could alienate moderate voters and hurt the GOP at the polls, as was the case in 1998 following the impeachment of President Clinton. Already, GOP leaders like Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) are throwing cold water on the impeachment talk, suggesting it could damage Republicans politically in the midterms.

On the other hand, ignoring the conservatives’ impeachment entreaties might spark a revolt from a Republican base keen to avenge the Democrats’ two impeachments of Trump, who remains the most popular national figure in the GOP. McCarthy knows well the perils of angering the far right: The Freedom Caucus had nudged Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) into an early retirement in 2015, deeming him insufficiently conservative, then prevented McCarthy from replacing him.

McCarthy’s office did not respond Monday to a request for comment.

The challenge facing Republican leaders in a GOP-controlled House will be to demonstrate an aggressive posture toward the administration, to appease conservatives, without alienating moderate voters in the process.

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) appears to be walking that line. Last summer, she called Biden “unfit to serve as president,” but stopped short of endorsing his impeachment.

Stefanik’s office did not respond to requests for comment.

Another strategy GOP leaders may adopt is to impeach a high-ranking member of the administration, but not the president himself. Several resolutions have been introduced to do just that, separately targeting Vice President Harris, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and Attorney General Merrick Garland.

McCarthy, during a visit to the southern border earlier in the year, had floated the idea of impeaching Mayorkas if he is found to be “derelict” in his job of securing the border. And the concept has plenty of support among conservatives.

“Mayorkas and Garland have purposefully made our country less safe, politicized their departments, and violated the rule of law. In some instances, they have instructed their subordinates to disobey our laws. That is unacceptable,” Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), who has endorsed a number of impeachment resolutions this year, said in an email.

“Next January I expect the House to pursue my impeachment articles against Mayorkas as well as Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene’s impeachment articles that I co-sponsored against Attorney General Merrick Garland,” Biggs added.

Still, conservatives like Biggs, the former head of the Freedom Caucus, also want to go straight to the top by impeaching Biden. And it remains unclear if anything less than that will appease the GOP’s restive right flank — one that’s expected to grow next year with the arrival of a number of pro-Trump conservatives vowing to take on anyone they consider to be part of Washington’s political establishment.

Some Republicans said the decision whether to endorse impeachment next year will simply hinge on events. Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), for instance, has endorsed two impeachment resolutions this cycle related to the Afghanistan withdrawal, but “has made no decisions yet on supporting impeachment articles next year with Republicans in the majority,” according to spokesman Austin Livingston.

“He will wait to see what those efforts look like, specifically how they align with Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution,” Livingston said, referring to the section outlining Congress’s impeachment powers.

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But others are eager to use a GOP majority to hold Biden’s feet to the fire. And that energy doesn’t appear to be fleeting, particularly when it comes to the border crisis, which could very well remain a hot topic six months from now.

Rep. Mary Miller (R), a strong Trump supporter who recently won an Illinois primary over the more moderate Rep. Rodney Davis (R), said Biden should be removed “for purposely ignoring our immigration laws.”

“Biden and Harris have failed their most basic duty,” Miller said, “which is ensuring the safety of the American people through the security of our borders.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...impeach-biden/

So much for tackling inflation and gas prices, eh?

 

[bodecea]

The only fascists here are you Nazi democrats.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The red wave is the next step before Biden is impeached.

We underestimated the blue cheat.

 

[lennypartiv]

We underestimated the blue cheat.

Looks like Democrats were busy trying to steal another election, this time in Arizona. I wonder where else evidence will pop up.

 

[MagicMike]

Its absolutely shocking how depraved fascist democrats, such as the op, genuinely are, Biden is literally the head of a crime family, it has corrupted every vestige of the federal machine and politicized them, and still the fascist base suckle at its feet, this is why we are on the verge of an annihilating civil dispute, we cannot tolerate these evil bastards another year, they must be eliminated from the food chain, and if these soft baby killers act up, it will be a pleasure to cull their numbers by the millions!

Not very smart.
After all we've been through with the Jan. 6th Committee hearings and the impending indictments of Donald Trump and the convictions of the last gaggle of misinformed misfits who thought they'd try their hand at a little "civil war" insurgency on the U.S. Capitol, idiots like YOU are still out here advocating for the violent overthrow of their government....

Online
In a PUBLIC forum.

Are you a slow learner or something?

 

[whitehall]

Nobody wants to end up with Harris.

 

[scruffy]

We underestimated the blue cheat.

Why did you do that?

I've been preaching about this for MONTHS.

You should hire me. Best money you ever spent. If you care about secure elections.

For instance - the Katie Hobbs tabulator thing - if you know about the technology, how do we get into a situation where one of two tabulators works? The printer works good enough to satisfy one tabulator but not the other? Doesn't that indicate a problem with the tabulator rather than the printer?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Looks like Democrats were busy trying to steal another election, this time in Arizona. I wonder where else evidence will pop up.

The fraud in Maricopa country is outrageous and MUST be answered,

 

[lennypartiv]

The fraud in Maricopa country is outrageous and MUST be answered,

Looks like another election is being stolen.

 

[busybee01]

Neither party wants to act like adults anymore, shameful-OG

Republicans hoping to seize control of the House in November are already setting their sights on what is, for many of them, a top priority next year: impeaching President Biden.

A number of rank-and-file conservatives have already introduced impeachment articles in the current Congress against the president. They accuse Biden of committing “high crimes” in his approach to a range of issues touching on border enforcement, the coronavirus pandemic and the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

Those resolutions never had a chance of seeing the light of day, with Democrats holding a narrow control of the lower chamber. But with Republicans widely expected to win the House majority in the midterms, many of those same conservatives want to tap their new potential powers to oust a president they deem unfit. Some would like to make it a first order of business.

“I have consistently said President Biden should be impeached for intentionally opening our border and making Americans less safe,” said Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.). “Congress has a duty to hold the President accountable for this and any other failures of his Constitutional responsibilities, so a new Republican majority must be prepared to aggressively conduct oversight on day one.”

The conservative impeachment drive is reminiscent of that orchestrated by liberals four years ago, as Democrats took control of the House in 2019 under then-President Trump. At the time, a small handful of vocal progressives wanted to impeach Trump, largely over accusations that he’d obstructed a Justice Department probe into Russian ties to his 2016 campaign. The idea was repeatedly rejected by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), not least out of fear that it would alienate voters in tough battleground districts.

The tide turned when a whistleblower accused Trump of pressuring a foreign power to find dirt on his political opponent — a charge that brought centrist Democrats onto the impeachment train. With moderates on board, Pelosi launched a formal impeachment inquiry in September of 2019, eight months after taking the Speaker’s gavel. Three months later, the House impeached Trump on two counts related to abusing power.

The difference between then and now is that liberals, in early 2019, were fighting a lonely battle with scant support. This year, heading into the midterms, dozens of conservatives have either endorsed Biden’s impeachment formally, or have suggested they’re ready to support it.

At least eight resolutions to impeach Biden have been offered since he took office: Three related to his handling of the migrant surge at the southern border; three targeting his management of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan last year; one denouncing the eviction moratorium designed to help renters during the pandemic; and still another connected to the overseas business dealings of his son, Hunter Biden.

Those proposals will expire with the end of this Congress. But some of the sponsors are already vowing to revisit them quickly next year. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), the lead sponsor of four of the impeachment resolutions, is among them.

“She believes Joe Biden should have been impeached as soon as he was sworn in, so of course she wants it to happen as soon as possible,” Nick Dyer, a Greene spokesman, said Monday in an email.

A noisy impeachment push from the GOP’s right flank could create headaches for Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), the Republican leader in line to be Speaker, and other party brass just as the 2024 presidential cycle heats up.

On the one hand, impeaching Biden could alienate moderate voters and hurt the GOP at the polls, as was the case in 1998 following the impeachment of President Clinton. Already, GOP leaders like Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) are throwing cold water on the impeachment talk, suggesting it could damage Republicans politically in the midterms.

On the other hand, ignoring the conservatives’ impeachment entreaties might spark a revolt from a Republican base keen to avenge the Democrats’ two impeachments of Trump, who remains the most popular national figure in the GOP. McCarthy knows well the perils of angering the far right: The Freedom Caucus had nudged Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) into an early retirement in 2015, deeming him insufficiently conservative, then prevented McCarthy from replacing him.

McCarthy’s office did not respond Monday to a request for comment.

The challenge facing Republican leaders in a GOP-controlled House will be to demonstrate an aggressive posture toward the administration, to appease conservatives, without alienating moderate voters in the process.

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) appears to be walking that line. Last summer, she called Biden “unfit to serve as president,” but stopped short of endorsing his impeachment.

Stefanik’s office did not respond to requests for comment.

Another strategy GOP leaders may adopt is to impeach a high-ranking member of the administration, but not the president himself. Several resolutions have been introduced to do just that, separately targeting Vice President Harris, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and Attorney General Merrick Garland.

McCarthy, during a visit to the southern border earlier in the year, had floated the idea of impeaching Mayorkas if he is found to be “derelict” in his job of securing the border. And the concept has plenty of support among conservatives.

“Mayorkas and Garland have purposefully made our country less safe, politicized their departments, and violated the rule of law. In some instances, they have instructed their subordinates to disobey our laws. That is unacceptable,” Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), who has endorsed a number of impeachment resolutions this year, said in an email.

“Next January I expect the House to pursue my impeachment articles against Mayorkas as well as Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene’s impeachment articles that I co-sponsored against Attorney General Merrick Garland,” Biggs added.

Still, conservatives like Biggs, the former head of the Freedom Caucus, also want to go straight to the top by impeaching Biden. And it remains unclear if anything less than that will appease the GOP’s restive right flank — one that’s expected to grow next year with the arrival of a number of pro-Trump conservatives vowing to take on anyone they consider to be part of Washington’s political establishment.

Some Republicans said the decision whether to endorse impeachment next year will simply hinge on events. Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), for instance, has endorsed two impeachment resolutions this cycle related to the Afghanistan withdrawal, but “has made no decisions yet on supporting impeachment articles next year with Republicans in the majority,” according to spokesman Austin Livingston.

“He will wait to see what those efforts look like, specifically how they align with Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution,” Livingston said, referring to the section outlining Congress’s impeachment powers.

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But others are eager to use a GOP majority to hold Biden’s feet to the fire. And that energy doesn’t appear to be fleeting, particularly when it comes to the border crisis, which could very well remain a hot topic six months from now.

Rep. Mary Miller (R), a strong Trump supporter who recently won an Illinois primary over the more moderate Rep. Rodney Davis (R), said Biden should be removed “for purposely ignoring our immigration laws.”

“Biden and Harris have failed their most basic duty,” Miller said, “which is ensuring the safety of the American people through the security of our borders.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...impeach-biden/

There is a huge difference. Both of Trump's impeachments were justified. Trump attempted to pressure a foreign government to investigate a political opponent, He then incited a attack on the capitol. The Republicans have no basis for impeaching anyone. It is only spite.

 

[Indeependent]

There is a huge difference. Both of Trump's impeachments were justified. Trump attempted to pressure a foreign government to investigate a political opponent, He then incited a attack on the capitol. The Republicans have no basis for impeaching anyone. It is only spite.

But Biden asking the Saudis to make him look good for the mid-terms is good.

 

[busybee01]

Don't forget 10% for the big guy aka Mr Potatohead

We know where the big guy gets his money as he has released his tax returns. Trump did not. What was he hiding?

 

[busybee01]

The fraud in Maricopa country is outrageous and MUST be answered,

There was no fraud. Apparently you think you will lose so you have to have a excuse.

 

[busybee01]

But Biden asking the Saudis to make him look good for the mid-terms is good.

The Saudis attempted to interfere in our elections.

 

[lennypartiv]

There was no fraud. Apparently you think you will lose so you have to have a excuse.

If Dems win another election in a red state like Arizona, obviously it's fraud.

 

[BluesLegend]

We are not going to impeach Biden, we are going to arrest him and toss him in the hoosgow where he belongs.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. I'm sick and tired of the endless committees and investigations. Fix the damn country Republicans will have a better chance of winning complete control of government if they do the job they were put into office for. The party ran on fixing the boarder and the economy, spend all of your time and energy on those and do your fucking job.

 

[busybee01]

The Democrats must realize that Joe Biden is suffering from dementia but refuse to act. They should have invoked the 25th Amendment to remove him from office by now.

Today we have a nutty dictator and possibly seriously ill dictator running Russia and threatening to use tactical nukes in his invasion of Ukraine. Now is not the time to have a President who can’t remember to exit stage left when he leave the podium. If Joe says something stupid we might end up in WWIII right in the middle of a full scale nuclear war. Where I am at I wouldn’t die in the initial attack but I would glow at night.

I actually feel sorry for Biden but I want a mentally fit President in the Oval Office.

If we have to impeach Joe Biden to get him out then so be it. I realize the next problem is Kamala Harris who Biden probably picked so people would not remove him from office. One problem at a time.

Then that disqualifies Trump who is in cahoots with Putin.

 

[busybee01]

It would be nice if the democrats didn’t have the liberal media on their side.

I blame ”liberal” journalists more than anyone for the fact that the Democratic Party is so powerful. They were granted the right to be a free press in the Bill of Rights but sold out to the Marist socialists in the Democratic Party. They were supposed to to be the watchdogs of our constitutional republic but instead of sniffing out corruption and malfeasance they bury like a bone all the bad doings by democrats and attack republicans like junk yard dogs.

If they ever get their way and we live in a Marxist socialist workers‘ paradise the press will be told what to say and how to say it. Then they will bitch and complain about their lost rights.

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The real propaganda comes from the right wing media.

 

[busybee01]

You have that ass-backwards. "You impeached Trump for fake reasons, so we're going to use real reasons to impeach you!"

Trump's impeachments were more than justified. A good chunk of his cabinet quit because they know Trump incited the attack on the Capitol.