Hospitals in England are on the brink of collapse, warn NHS chiefs

[Freewill]

Yeppers, we all in the US ought to be jealous of heath care in other countries.

Hospitals in England are on the brink of collapse, warn NHS chiefs

The body that represents hospitals across England has issued a startling warning that the NHS is close to breaking point because of its escalating cash crisis.

Years of underfunding have left the service facing such “impossible” demands that without urgent extra investment in November’s autumn statement it will have to cut staff, bring in charges or introduce “draconian rationing” of treatment – all options that will provoke public disquiet, it says.

In an unprecedentedly bleak assessment of the NHS’s own health, NHS Providers, which speaks for hospital trust chairs and chief executives, tells ministers that widespread breaches of performance targets, chronic understaffing and huge overspends by hospitals mean that it is heading back to the visible decline it last experienced in the 1990s.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You won't convince any lib on this forum. Socialism works fine for a certain period of time. Then the money runs out and everybody gives each other stupid looks.

You don't need to go overseas to see the problems they have. We have them right here in our social program world. The hospitals and clinics that closed down in the country were usually in lower income areas where the main income was government checks. Our Veterans hospitals still have their share of problems. Medicaid is the largest expenditure of most states and driving them in debt. Medicare is headed for a dirt road and going broke. Obamacare? I won't even get started with that, and the program just came out a few years ago.

 

[Freewill]

You won't convince any lib on this forum. Socialism works fine for a certain period of time. Then the money runs out and everybody gives each other stupid looks.

You don't need to go overseas to see the problems they have. We have them right here in our social program world. The hospitals and clinics that closed down in the country were usually in lower income areas where the main income was government checks. Our Veterans hospitals still have their share of problems. Medicaid is the largest expenditure of most states and driving them in debt. Medicare is headed for a dirt road and going broke. Obamacare? I won't even get started with that, and the program just came out a few years ago.

The US has been on this road for a good number of years. Really since health care insurance became common and the federal government got involved with medicare and medicaid. The government just keeps adding unfunded programs adding to the debt.

Problem is, I see not ready solution.

 

[whoisit]

Isn't socialism wonderful. Soon they run out of other peoples money and doctors tire of working for nothing.

 

[Penelope]

Isn't socialism wonderful. Soon they run out of other peoples money and doctors tire of working for nothing.

Yes it's so much better for the top 10%'s to work the rest of us to death so they can afford the best.

 

[owebo]

Yeppers, we all in the US ought to be jealous of heath care in other countries.

Hospitals in England are on the brink of collapse, warn NHS chiefs

The body that represents hospitals across England has issued a startling warning that the NHS is close to breaking point because of its escalating cash crisis.

Years of underfunding have left the service facing such “impossible” demands that without urgent extra investment in November’s autumn statement it will have to cut staff, bring in charges or introduce “draconian rationing” of treatment – all options that will provoke public disquiet, it says.

In an unprecedentedly bleak assessment of the NHS’s own health, NHS Providers, which speaks for hospital trust chairs and chief executives, tells ministers that widespread breaches of performance targets, chronic understaffing and huge overspends by hospitals mean that it is heading back to the visible decline it last experienced in the 1990s.

They should switch to free market health care....it's the only system that works....

 

[whoisit]

Isn't socialism wonderful. Soon they run out of other peoples money and doctors tire of working for nothing.

Yes it's so much better for the top 10%'s to work the rest of us to death so they can afford the best.

Get off your ass and put some effort into your future.

These doctos work their ass off for 12 yr.s in school then 10 years in med school, so why in the hell should they live like lazy ass ghetto rats who never did anything to improve theri lives?

I like my doctors rich and happy like my pilots. Don't won't no damn loser with a knife nowhere near me.

 

[Freewill]

Yeppers, we all in the US ought to be jealous of heath care in other countries.

Hospitals in England are on the brink of collapse, warn NHS chiefs

The body that represents hospitals across England has issued a startling warning that the NHS is close to breaking point because of its escalating cash crisis.

Years of underfunding have left the service facing such “impossible” demands that without urgent extra investment in November’s autumn statement it will have to cut staff, bring in charges or introduce “draconian rationing” of treatment – all options that will provoke public disquiet, it says.

In an unprecedentedly bleak assessment of the NHS’s own health, NHS Providers, which speaks for hospital trust chairs and chief executives, tells ministers that widespread breaches of performance targets, chronic understaffing and huge overspends by hospitals mean that it is heading back to the visible decline it last experienced in the 1990s.

They should switch to free market health care....it's the only system that works....

How does that do that? Before Obamacare buy health care insurance was very expensive. After Obamacare it was still expensive but at least people could get insurance. That all said, administration only adds about 5 percent to the total cost. How is the 95 percent going to be dropped?

 

[Dragonlady]

They should switch to free market health care....it's the only system that works....

Free market health care is what got you into this mess

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Probably because of the Muslim invasion.

 

[nat4900]

One of the many,many future aftershocks of Brexit.....

 

[Manonthestreet]

One of the many,many future aftershocks of Brexit.....

LLMMAAOOOO yeah it just happened overnite

 

[NYcarbineer]

You won't convince any lib on this forum. Socialism works fine for a certain period of time. Then the money runs out and everybody gives each other stupid looks.

You don't need to go overseas to see the problems they have. We have them right here in our social program world. The hospitals and clinics that closed down in the country were usually in lower income areas where the main income was government checks. Our Veterans hospitals still have their share of problems. Medicaid is the largest expenditure of most states and driving them in debt. Medicare is headed for a dirt road and going broke. Obamacare? I won't even get started with that, and the program just came out a few years ago.

Universal healthcare is working well in most advanced countries.

Your alternative, to let poor people die, is no longer viable in the modern world.

 

[nat4900]

LLMMAAOOOO yeah it just happened overnite

If you read the European press (I know, I know you have enough problems just reading comic books in English)....but had you read any of what the European press is stating, you'd know that part of the problem with the hospitals is that many,many foreign doctors in England are leaving the country BECAUSE of Brexit.....

 

[Manonthestreet]

LLMMAAOOOO yeah it just happened overnite

If you read the European press (I know, I know you have enough problems just reading comic books in English)....but had you read any of what the European press is stating, you'd know that part of the problem with the hospitals is that many,many foreign doctors in England are leaving the country BECAUSE of Brexit.....

Which of course has nothing to do with them being out of money

 

[nat4900]

Which of course has nothing to do with them being out of money

Wrong, if you did bother to read the press releases you'd learn that, as foreign doctors leave, the system hires for every vacant doctor slot, 3 to 5 para professionals, which exceeds the cost of the original doctor's salary....and the domino effect plays itself out.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The US has been on this road for a good number of years. Really since health care insurance became common and the federal government got involved with medicare and medicaid. The government just keeps adding unfunded programs adding to the debt.

Problem is, I see not ready solution.

The problem with government healthcare is that we have to fund it if we want it.

I can't recall the last time we workers had to contribute more towards Medicare. While costs go up, the working people contribute the same. No insurance company can work that way, that's why premiums go up every single year.

One of the reasons they never raised employee contributions is because people would get upset and start thinking of getting out of Medicare and go to something else. That would be a Democrat nightmare.

The problem with Commie Care is it never addressed the high cost of medical care. They just shifted the cost from one entity to another. That's like paying off one of your credit cards with another. Nothing was accomplished.

Hopefully if Trump gets in and addresses this problem, look to lower the cost of care first, then figure out how we are going to pay for it.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

You won't convince any lib on this forum. Socialism works fine for a certain period of time. Then the money runs out and everybody gives each other stupid looks.

You don't need to go overseas to see the problems they have. We have them right here in our social program world. The hospitals and clinics that closed down in the country were usually in lower income areas where the main income was government checks. Our Veterans hospitals still have their share of problems. Medicaid is the largest expenditure of most states and driving them in debt. Medicare is headed for a dirt road and going broke. Obamacare? I won't even get started with that, and the program just came out a few years ago.

Universal healthcare is working well in most advanced countries.

Your alternative, to let poor people die, is no longer viable in the modern world.

how about the alternative where poor people start to take pride in themselves, get an education, get a job and pay their own damn way.
think that might work?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Universal healthcare is working well in most advanced countries.

Your alternative, to let poor people die, is no longer viable in the modern world.

So the solution is to save the poor people and let the working people die instead?

I've had medical coverage my entire adult life until this big-eared clown invaded the White House. Now I don't have any. When I finally can get on Commie Care (because I have no other choice) I will have to pay for it with after-tax money. The cost of care will be about the cost of an expensive SUV payment or even a mortgage on a small house. Tell me, how am I supposed to contribute anything into our economy when I will have no money to spend, payoff bills, or even save?

What a disaster this is, and there are millions more just like me. Life was so much better before this idiot got into power, and I can't wait until he leaves. But hey, look at the bright side! I don't have coverage anymore, but the guy that makes my french fries at McDonald's does. And wouldn't you know it, he's likely to vote Democrat. Go figure........

 

[Manonthestreet]

Which of course has nothing to do with them being out of money

Wrong, if you did bother to read the press releases you'd learn that, as foreign doctors leave, the system hires for every vacant doctor slot, 3 to 5 para professionals, which exceeds the cost of the original doctor's salary....and the domino effect plays itself out.

LLMMAAOOoo you get more lame and desperate by the post.......