Honest discussion about Abortion. Be prepared for FACTS

[lafayette]

So a human life has no intrinsic rights in your opinion? Isn't life the ultimate right? Why are people like you somehow in charge of another being's right to life?

The woman is in charge, not you, not me.

 

[Leo123]

The woman is in charge, not you, not me.

I actually agree, the woman getting an abortion for convenience is killing her own offspring. What kind of woman does that? What kind of person supports that?

 

[Couchpotato]

It is in many states. That's what it will be in Nevada after election. It is not your business.

Just because a bunch of people vote for something doesnt make it moral or right. People voted for slavery. If Nevada voted that it was ok for you to own another human being would you be ok with that? What if they voted that it was ok to murder someone so long as they were under 15 or had blue eyes?

 

[Couchpotato]

The woman is in charge, not you, not me.

Again not a legal standard of when the fetus gains rights.

 

[lafayette]

I actually agree, the woman getting an abortion for convenience is killing her own offspring. What kind of woman does that? What kind of person supports that?

You do not know anything about motives.

 

[Leo123]

You do not know anything about motives.

What motive do you think necessitates the killing of a developing human being aside from, rape, existential circumstances for the mother or a fetus (before abortion attempts) so malformed it could not live outside the womb even with medical assistance?

 

[Crepitus]

I have no reason to doubt what she’s saying. The woman says she worked at an abortion clinic. Do you have some evidence that the procedure as she’s described it is different?

I was referring to this:

"Planned parenthood loves doing abortions. "

If the OP started with a blatant lie like that how accurate can the rest be?

 

[Couchpotato]

I was referring to this:

"Planned parenthood loves doing abortions. "

If the OP started with a blatant lie like that how accurate can the rest be?

1. That’s just an opinion. They certainly don’t hate doing them.

2. You just want to focus on that so you don’t have to deal with any of the actual substantive parts of the argument

 

[Crepitus]

1. That’s just an opinion. They certainly don’t hate doing them.

2. You just want to focus on that so you don’t have to deal with any of the actual substantive parts of the argument

Nope. I just stop when I encounter the first lie.

You want your OP to be taken seriously?

Don't lie in the first sentence at least.

 

[Couchpotato]

Nope. I just stop when I encounter the first lie.

You want your OP to be taken seriously?

Don't lie in the first sentence at least.

It’s an opinion. But your retreat from the issue is noted.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do women scare you, buddy? Awww

Pace yourself. Be prepared for a Black/Brown...wait for it...WOMAN in the WH!!

Thoughts & prayers.

We have already had that. Her name was Obama.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" With Cause Abortion Ignored By Weirdos "

* 6reak 6armer 6anatics Demand More Opportunity For Circus Side Shows And Miserable Quality Of Life For Others *

One of the biggest lies about abortion is that it’s all about a “woman’s choice”. If you actually talk to women you’d see that doctors pressure women all the time to get abortions, especially if the baby is disabled in some way, like with Downs Syndrome.

There it is , blubbering that +90% of individual choose not to carry down syndrome to term .

The down syndrome does not satisfy the definition of progeny or human species because by and large they are sterile and incapable of progeneration / reproduction .

The meaning of an after life is genetic continuance and , flippantly - so much for the extenuated meaning of life guaranteed in us constitution .

Sometimes practitioners withhold congenital deformities from the mother to satiate their own self interests .

The reasons for termination of pregnancy in the third trimester - PubMed

One-third of late terminations of pregnancy could have been avoided by more efficient screening in the second trimester. However, because fetal prognosis is not always clear when a malformation is diagnosed, postponing the decision until fetal development allows more thorough evaluation and may...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

PIP: The processes associated with late terminations of pregnancies with a fetal abnormality were assessed in a retrospective study of 956 consecutive second- and third-trimester abortions performed at the Maternite Port Royal University Hospital in Paris, France, in 1986-94. 651 of these terminations were performed in the second trimester and 305 in the third trimester. The main indications for third-trimester abortion were neurologic anomalies, multiple malformations with a normal karyotype, and chromosomal anomalies diagnosed after an abnormal routine ultrasound scan. In 55 cases (18%) of third-trimester induced abortion, the anomaly could not have been diagnosed before the third-trimester. This group included cases of autoimmune hydrops occurring in the third trimester, Down's syndrome revealed by sonographic anomalies, and structural chromosomal anomalies revealed by intrauterine growth restriction or caused by cytomegalovirus infection. In an additional 122 (40%) of the third-trimester abortions, the prognosis of the anomaly could not have been established firmly until the third trimester, even though prenatal diagnosis was feasible earlier. The majority of these cases involved cerebral ventriculomegalies. In another 15 cases (5%), the poor prognosis of the fetus was established in the second trimester, but the termination was postponed, either by the physician or because the couple required more time to reach a decision. In the final 113 cases (37%), the condition for which pregnancy termination was performed in the third trimester could have been identified earlier in pregnancy, but screenings during the second trimester resulted in false-negative findings. Myelomeningocele, trisomy 18 and 13, and lethal dwarfism accounted for the majority of these potentially avoidable third-trimester terminations.

Species - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A species (pl.: species) is a population of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction.[1]

 

[Captain Caveman]

One of the biggest lies about abortion is that it’s all about a “woman’s choice”. If you actually talk to women you’d see that doctors pressure women all the time to get abortions, especially if the baby is disabled in some way, like with Downs Syndrome.
Let's Discuss Reasonably....Please. So a woman goes to the Doctor, and the Doctor suggests an abortion. What world is this.
Another lie is the abortion pill. It causes women to go into labor and they have to push the baby out into the toilet and flush it down.

Can you CONFIRM THIS......the abortion pill, as you describe, is used in WHICH MONTHS?
Are you suggesting the Abortion Pill works in the 7th + Month?

Why are women wanting abortions so utterly thick??

If you don't want a baby, why have a cock up ya ejaculating???? How retarded can you get????

My choice translates to choose to be stupid. Keep ya fucking legs shut, it's not rocket science.

 

[theHawk]

" With Cause Abortion Ignored By Weirdos "

* 6reak 6armer 6anatics Demand More Opportunity For Circus Side Shows And Miserable Quality Of Life For Others *

There it is , blubbering that +90% of individual choose not to carry down syndrome to term .

The down syndrome does not satisfy the definition of progeny or human species because by and large they are sterile and incapable of progeneration / reproduction .

The meaning of an after life is genetic continuance and , flippantly - so much for the extenuated meaning of life guaranteed in us constitution .

Sometimes practitioners withhold congenital deformities from the mother to satiate their own self interests .

The reasons for termination of pregnancy in the third trimester - PubMed

One-third of late terminations of pregnancy could have been avoided by more efficient screening in the second trimester. However, because fetal prognosis is not always clear when a malformation is diagnosed, postponing the decision until fetal development allows more thorough evaluation and may...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

PIP: The processes associated with late terminations of pregnancies with a fetal abnormality were assessed in a retrospective study of 956 consecutive second- and third-trimester abortions performed at the Maternite Port Royal University Hospital in Paris, France, in 1986-94. 651 of these terminations were performed in the second trimester and 305 in the third trimester. The main indications for third-trimester abortion were neurologic anomalies, multiple malformations with a normal karyotype, and chromosomal anomalies diagnosed after an abnormal routine ultrasound scan. In 55 cases (18%) of third-trimester induced abortion, the anomaly could not have been diagnosed before the third-trimester. This group included cases of autoimmune hydrops occurring in the third trimester, Down's syndrome revealed by sonographic anomalies, and structural chromosomal anomalies revealed by intrauterine growth restriction or caused by cytomegalovirus infection. In an additional 122 (40%) of the third-trimester abortions, the prognosis of the anomaly could not have been established firmly until the third trimester, even though prenatal diagnosis was feasible earlier. The majority of these cases involved cerebral ventriculomegalies. In another 15 cases (5%), the poor prognosis of the fetus was established in the second trimester, but the termination was postponed, either by the physician or because the couple required more time to reach a decision. In the final 113 cases (37%), the condition for which pregnancy termination was performed in the third trimester could have been identified earlier in pregnancy, but screenings during the second trimester resulted in false-negative findings. Myelomeningocele, trisomy 18 and 13, and lethal dwarfism accounted for the majority of these potentially avoidable third-trimester terminations.

Species - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A species (pl.: species) is a population of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction.[1]

Thanks for proving my point.

You Nazi eugenics psychos are in favor of killing people with Downs Syndrome.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Selflessness And Pity Rather Than Sanctimonious Outrage "

* Victimless Acts *

I actually agree, the woman getting an abortion for convenience is killing her own offspring. What kind of woman does that? What kind of person supports that?

One need only replace sanctimonious knee jerk selfish feelings of indignation and rage with pity and relinquish judgement about victimless acts that only affect the woman and not themselves .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Cannot Accept The Literal Meaning Of An Afterlife Invokes Godwin Argument "

* Hypocrites With A Veracity For Killing *

Thanks for proving my point.
You Nazi eugenics psychos are in favor of killing people with Downs Syndrome.

Allowing individuals to choose their own fate is an indifference about their decisions that are none of my concern .

And , so says an apex predator with indifference and self officiated license for killing anything and everything that is not a hue mammon ape .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Puritanism For The Cloistered "

* Primordial Envy Of Male Ego *

Why are women wanting abortions so utterly thick??
If you don't want a baby, why have a cock up ya ejaculating???? How retarded can you get????
My choice translates to choose to be stupid. Keep ya fucking legs shut, it's not rocket science.

While females are assured that their offspring satisfies the subjective altruism , because they know the offspring is their own , males are not assured of satisfying the subjective altruism , because they do not know emphatically that offspring are their own , and that anxiety is a source of their aggression and jealousy about conjugal acts of others .

An incessant focus on anthropocentric psychosis by conditional predators and obsession with ejaculating dicks and the sexual practices of others , all while ignoring the more compelling issue of with cause abortion , is stupid .

The consistent disregard for with cause abortion as a basis to outlaw all abortion seems to indicate that rocket science may beyond those wielding such arguments .

 

[surada]

Those states have the highest populations of blacks in cities.

Yes, Black and poor women have always suffered from lack of access to health care.

 

[JoeB131]

Does abortion end a life?

Nope. Fetuses aren't viable. Globby isn't a person.

 

[Couchpotato]

Nope. Fetuses aren't viable. Globby isn't a person.

So viability is the standard then? You support no abortions post 20ish weeks and that standard will move ever closer to conception as medical advancements are made?