Homeland Security revokes Harvard’s ability to enroll international students

[Failzero]

nazis were fascist, but they let the socialists in the party at the beginning. Then in the early 30's, Hitler ousted the strassers.

They did Socialism Right ( they killed off the Marxists & Communists so they could keep the Socialism pure ) ?

 

[dudmuck]

Socialists can be fascist. Italy was also Socialist and fascist. Nazi stands for "National Socialist" That pretty much describes the democrat party.

While Mussolini initially held socialist views and was a member of the Italian Socialist Party, he later abandoned socialism and founded the Fascist Party, which was ideologically opposed to socialism. Fascism, as represented by Mussolini, advocated for a centralized, authoritarian state that opposed both communism and liberalism.

For nazis, the name of the party was established early before they had power. They had to attract the working class, so the let the socialists in. They were under the Strasser brothers, so it was called Strasserism. Then in 1933, Hilter ousted all of that from the party. There was never anything left-wing about Hitler, he just tolerated it early on to gain power.

 

[Failzero]

While Mussolini initially held socialist views and was a member of the Italian Socialist Party, he later abandoned socialism and founded the Fascist Party, which was ideologically opposed to socialism. Fascism, as represented by Mussolini, advocated for a centralized, authoritarian state that opposed both communism and liberalism.

For nazis, the name of the party was established early before they had power. They had to attract the working class, so the let the socialists in. They were under the Strasser brothers, so it was called Strasserism. Then in 1933, Hilter ousted all of that from the party. There was never anything left-wing about Hitler, he just tolerated it early on to gain power.

They embraced the Socialism part and eschewed the usual natural progression to communism / Marxism

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The international students at Harvard can transfer to another college....

Does that sound like these students were the ones that are foreign terrorists? Why would Trump allow them to stay?




This is illegal, unadulterated, retribution and revenge via big government abusing their power.

So if the students can transfer to another college then that demonstrates his beef is with Harvard and not with the students as they keep claiming.

 

[Failzero]

So if the students can transfer to another college then that demonstrates his beef is with Harvard and not with the students as they keep claiming.

If they have their Student Visa revoked they can’t just transfer to William & Mary or Chico State

 

[BS Filter]

While Mussolini initially held socialist views and was a member of the Italian Socialist Party, he later abandoned socialism and founded the Fascist Party, which was ideologically opposed to socialism. Fascism, as represented by Mussolini, advocated for a centralized, authoritarian state that opposed both communism and liberalism.

For nazis, the name of the party was established early before they had power. They had to attract the working class, so the let the socialists in. They were under the Strasser brothers, so it was called Strasserism. Then in 1933, Hilter ousted all of that from the party. There was never anything left-wing about Hitler, he just tolerated it early on to gain power.

If that's true, why didn't Hitler change the name of the party?

 

[Failzero]

If that's true, why didn't Hitler change the name of the party?

Because he had a vision for Socialism & Nationalism gettin Germany on a War footing in a short time .

 

[dudmuck]

If that's true, why didn't Hitler change the name of the party?

In 1933, when Adolf Hitler assumed power in the German government, the usage of "Nazi" diminished in Germany. They had full power, so the name was irrelevant since it wasnt used much inside Germany.

Typically, parties only change name when they need to rebrand. This happens elsewhere, such as France.

 

[BS Filter]

In 1933, when Adolf Hitler assumed power in the German government, the usage of "Nazi" diminished in Germany. They had full power, so the name was irrelevant since it wasnt used much inside Germany.

Typically, parties only change name when they need to rebrand. This happens elsewhere, such as France.

Why did the Nazis keep the swastika?

 

[Lesh]

Why did the Nazis keep the swastika?

Why would they not? It was their brand

 

[BS Filter]

So if the students can transfer to another college then that demonstrates his beef is with Harvard and not with the students as they keep claiming.

Correct. The President is punishing Harvard. They've been kicked off the foreign student visa program.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Then it appears you didn't review the link in the OP.

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Thank you for posting this - so now our government is claiming that diversity, equity & inclusion policies are not only "illegal and immoral" but racist as well?

So what does that make Kristi Noem who is clearly unqualified to hold the position she does? She's a diversity hire but unlike us, she's NOT qualified for the position since DHS covers a lot more than Immigration. She was being questioned about their plans on securing everything from a cybersecurity perspective and she indicated that they were relying on the governor's partners in the private industry. She couldn't summarize anything that they were doing.

 

[scruffy]

Why is Harvard International Chinese students, being punished for how Harvard handled the Palestinian protests?

National security.

This is an abuse of power, fascism and the judge overseeing the case just put a halt on this action from Trump, a few hours ago...

Judges can ***** all they want, but they can't force the Executive Branch to shell out a dollar, or a visa.

 

[scruffy]

Nazis were Socialists not Communists

Nazis were monsters. Straight out of an HP Lovecraft story. Authoritarian socialists who insisted on capitalist participation and fantasized themselves to be racially pure and superior.

 

[Care4all]

National security.



Judges can ***** all they want, but they can't force the Executive Branch to shell out a dollar, or a visa.

The Chinese students are transferring to other US universities... No one revoked their student visas, no one kicked them out of the USA....

So this is Trump.... abuse of power, retribution he singled out personally, for Harvard, a private institution to receive.

 

[scruffy]

The Chinese students are transferring to other US universities... No one revoked their student visas, no one kicked them out of the USA....

So this is Trump.... abuse of power, retribution he singled out personally, for Harvard, a private institution to receive.

Deterrence and an example. A proven formula. Works every time. He's hitting Harvard in the pocketbook where it counts, and he's putting an end to Chinese theft of our technology.

Can't see anything bad about any of this.

 

[Care4all]

National security.



Judges can ***** all they want, but they can't force the Executive Branch to shell out a dollar, or a visa.

Cutting off ones nose to spite ones face, is stupid.

Harvard medical research and development has given many benefits to the American people.... The govt giving them grants for medical research has saved millions of lives...hundreds of millions or billions of lives, worldwide.

Post in thread 'Another Whack Against Harvard' Another Whack Against Harvard

Deterrence and an example. A proven formula. Works every time. He's hitting Harvard in the pocketbook where it counts, and he's putting an end to Chinese theft of our technology.

Can't see anything bad about any of this.

Our govt can not legally seek revenge as this against Harvard. This is not a Trump Business.

Our govt has to show a crime and convicted them, or prove they broke a policy that states would revoke research and development grants if they broke it....or revoke their international students from attending there. The govt can't just revoke Harvard international students graduating this month, from getting their Harvard degree...

This BULLYING is illegal for our federal govt.

We also have to treat everyone the same, with rules and order...equal justice under the law...strong arming who you don't like or who didn't bow down does not give govt the permission or power to do this type of shit....

That is why courts are stopping Trump, left and right.

He's a man of chaos and lawlessness, (and likely The Man of Lawlessness referred to in the bible in my opinion...but set that aside, for now.)

 

[scruffy]

Cutting off ones nose to spite ones face, is stupid.

Harvard medical research and development has given many benefits to the American people.... The govt giving them grants for medical research has saved millions of lives...hundreds of millions or billions of lives, worldwide.

Post in thread 'Another Whack Against Harvard' Another Whack Against Harvard

Our govt can not legally seek revenge as this against Harvard. This is not a Trump Business.

Our govt has to show a crime and convicted them, or prove they broke a policy that states would revoke research and development grants if they broke it....or revoke their international students from attending there. The govt can't just revoke Harvard international students graduating this month, from getting their Harvard degree...

This BULLYING is illegal for our federal govt.

We also have to treat everyone the same, with rules and order...equal justice under the law...strong arming who you don't like or who didn't bow down does not give govt the permission or power to do this type of shit....

That is why courts are stopping Trump, left and right.

He's a man of chaos and lawlessness, (and likely The Man of Lawlessness referred to in the bible in my opinion...but set that aside, for now.)

You don't treat everyone the same, doofus.

Criminals don't get treated the same as philanthropists.

Many of those Chinese students are THIEVES, plain and simple.

Stupid libtards need to learn to DISCERN, and treat people according to their actions.

 

[Care4all]

You don't treat everyone the same, doofus.

Criminals don't get treated the same as philanthropists.

Many of those Chinese students are THIEVES, plain and simple.

Stupid libtards need to learn to DISCERN, and treat people according to their actions.

You treat criminals the same, you treat non criminals the same.

There are other universities that had unruly protests...but only Harvard was singled out and the student visa program was not cancelled for the others...why not?

Other universities had Palestine protests and intimidation occurring towards Jewish students, but they were not stripped of their research and development grants.

There is a process for a school to get a grant for research that all schools are eligible for, Trump cutting off Harvard from that process when they meet the criteria for the grants as all the other universities getting grants, is illegal... It is bullying, an abuse of federal power to single someone out for no legit reason...while others who have done the same, have not been...

 

[scruffy]

You treat criminals the same, you treat non criminals the same.

YOU do.

I discern.

There are other universities that had unruly protests...but only Harvard was singled out and the student visa program was not cancelled for the others...why not?

Because it's expensive and it's a pain in the ass.

But one high profile example was needed. Hopefully it's sufficient.

Other universities had Palestine protests and intimidation occurring towards Jewish students, but they were not stripped of their research and development grants.

Columbia got dinged pretty hard.

There is a process for a school to get a grant for research that all schools are eligible for, Trump cutting off Harvard from that process when they meet the criteria for the grants as all the other universities getting grants, is illegal... It is bullying, an abuse of federal power to single someone out for no legit reason...while others who have done the same, have not been...

lol

It offends the leftard idea of "fairness".

lmao

No child, the reality is there is evil in this world. It's very dangerous to treat it the same as good. Could be deadly.

My parents were racially prejudiced. I rebelled against that, I grew up treating people as "just people". Then I met my first psychopath. I learned that people are not all the same. We're not blank slates. And neither are institutions, and neither are policies.

Politics is the art of using power. We can talk about that if you wish. It's difficult trying to move a mountain all at once, sometimes you have to nudge one grain of sand at a time. But people have difficulty perceiving entire mountains and little tiny grains of sand. You have to present things to them in a way they can understand. I learned a lot about this in my days as a corporate change specialist. It's hard to get the result without politics, without exercising power, without discerning which moves give you the result you want