Home of family shot up in likely mistaken identity, drive by shooting...in gun free Australia...

[2aguy]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Aussies have guns.

 

[miketx]

Aussies have guns.

Evidently, but like non-liars always say, gun bans only affect the law-abiding, not the criminals.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

Agreed. The author of the OP has a fetish for guns. He's one very sick puppy.

 

[idb]

When did Australia become gun-free?

 

[2aguy]

When did Australia become gun-free?

The democrats tell us Australia is gun free....that their ban and confiscation of guns stopped shootings like this....not that they happened that often before they banned and confiscated guns...which is another thing the democrats don't want people to understand...they had guns, they had few shootings......guns are not driving gun crime.......the culture of the criminals drives gun crime.

In the U.S. ....our gangs and criminals shoot each other over insults, drug turf, girl friends, fights at parties...........

Meanwhile, 600 million guns in the hands of normal people with over 19.4 million Americans who can legally carry guns in public....do not use their guns for any gun crime....at all.......

How do we know?

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

1) the democrat party keeps releasing violent gun offenders...they have created a revolving door for criminals who use guns, and will release even the most serious gun offenders over and over again....why? Probably because they realise that normal people don't use their guns for crime, so if they want to push gun control, they need criminals to shoot people.....so they keep releasing them....

2) The democrat party keeps attacking the police.....driving the officers into not doing pro-active policing, cutting detective forces so that murders go unsolved..........

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

Agreed. The author of the OP has a fetish for guns. He's one very sick puppy.

No, I have no fetish for guns.....I care deeply about the lives of innocent Americans who will be the victims of rape, robbery, stabbings, beatings and murder when idiots like you ban and confiscate guns.....

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year, according to the Centers for Disease Control, to stop those crimes.....without guns, those victims would be victims, not survivors......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

Australians can't stop illegal guns from entering their country...even though it is surrounded by water....

Gun violence grips Victoria as deadly shootings double

More than 14 hardened criminals are being found in possession of firearms each week as the state grapples with a rising gun culture that has led to twice as many Victorians shot dead in 2019.
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Anti-gangs division Detective Superintendent Peter Brigham said illegal firearms were routinely unearthed at the homes of drug traffickers and in the possession of “gangster types” chasing image and status.
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In September, a 35-year-old Docklands man was sentenced to at least eight years' jail for heroin trafficking. As part of his plea deal, the former Iraqi national led police to a cache of weapons wrapped in plastic and hidden in a Melbourne drain. They included an SKS assault rifle and grenades.
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And while handguns were proving to be the gun of choice among young men, high powered military-grade firearms were in demand from the city’s outlaw motorcycle gangs
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Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

• There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
• Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
• The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
• Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
• Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts

In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.

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The second part of the series....

Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.

And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

Agreed. The author of the OP has a fetish for guns. He's one very sick puppy.

No, I have no fetish for guns.....I care deeply about the lives of innocent Americans who will be the victims of rape, robbery, stabbings, beatings and murder when idiots like you ban and confiscate guns.....

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year, according to the Centers for Disease Control, to stop those crimes.....without guns, those victims would be victims, not survivors......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

Your OP title suggested that gun control doesn't work..example being that supposedly gun free Australia had a drive bye shooting. Another way to look at it is...how many mass shootings has Australia had since the Port Arthur mass shooting.. compared to how many we have had in the U.S during the same time period.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

Agreed. The author of the OP has a fetish for guns. He's one very sick puppy.

No, I have no fetish for guns.....I care deeply about the lives of innocent Americans who will be the victims of rape, robbery, stabbings, beatings and murder when idiots like you ban and confiscate guns.....

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year, according to the Centers for Disease Control, to stop those crimes.....without guns, those victims would be victims, not survivors......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

Your OP title suggested that gun control doesn't work..example being that supposedly gun free Australia had a drive bye shooting. Another way to look at it is...how many mass shootings has Australia had since the Port Arthur mass shooting.. compared to how many we have had in the U.S during the same time period.

No, that isn't the way to look at it......

Australia had few if any mass public shootings before they banned guns. After the ban, they still had mass public shootings, but because the shooters failed to kill at least 3 people, they get to claim they haven't had any mass public shootings.......

The following all occurred after the ban and confiscation......the only reason that Australia can claim they have had no mass public shootings is the shooters did not kill 3 people.....

They were in a public location.

They had guns.

They were shooting at people.

They did not kill 3 people......

The claim that Australia has not had mass public shootings since the ban is just silly.........and the claim that banning and confiscating guns achieved this is even more stupid. Australia rarely had mass public shootings before the ban, and if the shooters in these incidents had killed 3 people, they would have had the same number of mass public shootings as before the ban.....

Shots fired in Launceston siege
A siege in the Tasmanian city of Launceston has ended with police arresting a 24-year-old man and a woman, 40, after 33 shots were fired at police.
Police had brought in negotiators, a heavily armoured Bearcat truck and evacuated residents from the street during the 18 hour stand-off which began on Friday afternoon.

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.
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• 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
• 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
• 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]
• 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
• • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
  • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
  • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
  • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]
• 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
• 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]
• 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
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• 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]
• 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
• 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
• 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
• 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
• 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]
• 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
• 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]
• 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]
• 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]
• 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
• 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
• 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
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• 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

Agreed. The author of the OP has a fetish for guns. He's one very sick puppy.

No, I have no fetish for guns.....I care deeply about the lives of innocent Americans who will be the victims of rape, robbery, stabbings, beatings and murder when idiots like you ban and confiscate guns.....

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year, according to the Centers for Disease Control, to stop those crimes.....without guns, those victims would be victims, not survivors......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

Your OP title suggested that gun control doesn't work..example being that supposedly gun free Australia had a drive bye shooting. Another way to look at it is...how many mass shootings has Australia had since the Port Arthur mass shooting.. compared to how many we have had in the U.S during the same time period.

Some perspective on mass public shootings in America.....

First.......deer kill more people each and every year than mass public shooters do each year.

Lawn mowers kill more people each year in America than mass public shooters do.

Ladders kill more people each year in America than mass public shooters do........

Knives kill more people each year than mass public shooters do....

Clubs kill more people each year than mass public shooters do....

Bare hands kill more people each year than mass public shooters do...

Deer....200 a year.

Lawnmowers....between 90-100 people killed each year.

Ladders.....300 people a year.

Knives....over 1,500 people a year.

Clubs....over 400 people a year.

bare hands, over 400 people a year.

knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

Americans own 600 million guns and over 19.4 million Americans legally carry guns in public for self defense.......in a country of over 320 million people....

Mass public shootings in this country are the rarest of rare events.....so you have no argument.

Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 90

Lawnmowers kill more people than bears or sharks or alligators each year

This article says 90 people died a year...it verys......but it also points out Deer kill 200 people a year....more than mass public shooters do...

found that, on average, lawnmower accidents were responsible for the deaths of an average of 90 Americans annually
----
deer attacks, responsible for an annual average of 200 people;

Falling off ladder deaths...300...


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2020....1

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 90

Lawnmowers kill more people than bears or sharks or alligators each year

This article says 90 people died a year...it verys......but it also points out Deer kill 200 people a year....more than mass public shooters do...

found that, on average, lawnmower accidents were responsible for the deaths of an average of 90 Americans annually
----
deer attacks, responsible for an annual average of 200 people;

Falling off ladder deaths...300...



Ladder Safety.


Bathtub deaths...

an average of 335 a year. Infants, very young children and the elderly are at risk, but more than half of all tub deaths are among able-bodied people between the ages of 5 and 64.
Someone drowns in a tub nearly every day in America

2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[idb]

When did Australia become gun-free?

The democrats tell us Australia is gun free....that their ban and confiscation of guns stopped shootings like this....not that they happened that often before they banned and confiscated guns...which is another thing the democrats don't want people to understand...they had guns, they had few shootings......guns are not driving gun crime.......the culture of the criminals drives gun crime.

In the U.S. ....our gangs and criminals shoot each other over insults, drug turf, girl friends, fights at parties...........

Meanwhile, 600 million guns in the hands of normal people with over 19.4 million Americans who can legally carry guns in public....do not use their guns for any gun crime....at all.......

How do we know?

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

1) the democrat party keeps releasing violent gun offenders...they have created a revolving door for criminals who use guns, and will release even the most serious gun offenders over and over again....why? Probably because they realise that normal people don't use their guns for crime, so if they want to push gun control, they need criminals to shoot people.....so they keep releasing them....

2) The democrat party keeps attacking the police.....driving the officers into not doing pro-active policing, cutting detective forces so that murders go unsolved..........

"The democrats tell us Australia is gun free..."
Are you a Democrat, because you seem to be the only one on here banging away about Australia being gun free?

 

[Turtlesoup]

Hmmm.....this family home was shot up by drive by shooters......

A Melbourne mother says she is shaken and confused as to why her young family was targeted in an alleged drive-by shooting.
She told 9News the family has no enemies and believe shots were fired at their house in a case of mistaken identity.
A silver Mercedes sedan was stolen during an alleged aggravated carjacking in Maidstone about 9pm on Wednesday before the alleged drive-by shooting unfolded in Cranbourne West.

Young Melbourne family targeted in brazen drive-by shooting

www.9news.com.au

Ya, something like that happens rarely in Australia while drive byes happen almost every damn day somewhere in America.

LOL...and how many people does Austrialia have? About as many as FLORIDA just spread out a lot further?