Criminal on bail for illegal gun possession, shoots 15 year old with another illegal gun, Chicago...

[candycorn]

Amber Guyger was convicted of murder while using a gun. Should she be in jail for her “gun crime”?

Sure. Why shouldn't she?

For life?

Again:
Sure. Why shouldn't she?

I agree...
she should spend life in prison

Now 2aguy says her shooting and killing a man in his own house wasn’t even a crime. satrebil

 

[2aguy]

There is a direct link between the policies of the democrat party and our gun crime in democrat party controlled cities...

here we have more from the democrat party city of Chicago......

Prosecutors: Boy fatally shot by man who was on "affordable bail" for gun charge

An Englewood man is charged with fatally shooting a 15-year-old boy while free on a recognizance bond and electronic monitoring as he awaited trial for allegedly possessing a stolen handgun.

And police say he was carrying another handgun when they arrested him last week.

It’s the latest in a string of violent crimes identified by CWBChicago that were allegedly committed by people who were on affordable bail while awaiting trial for gun crimes and other serious felonies.

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Last July, prosecutors charged Coleman with felony unlawful use of a weapon after police allegedly found a loaded handgun near his seat during a traffic stop on the 1900 block of West 57th Street. The gun, which had an extended ammunition magazine, had been reported stolen in Lafayette, Indiana, police said.


Judge John Lyke released Coleman on a recognizance bond with electronic monitoring the next day, according to court records.

In October, police executed a search warrant at Coleman’s home and allegedly found suspected narcotics packaging, a digital scale, and a 9-millimeter bullet.

Prosecutors charged him with possessing ammunition without a valid Firearm Owner’s ID card and Judge Susana Ortiz ordered him held without bail for violating the terms of his July bail bond.

So.....if you are a witness......do you want to testify against this guy if the democrat party judge is going to let him out on cashless bond?

My solution to gun crime....in particular gun crime created by the policies of the democrat party?

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

A gun that you want on the street because nothing can be done to access without a bunch of people running in circles screaming " Second Amendment! Second Amendment!"

No......the gun was used by someone illegally....we already have laws to stop that....the problem is the democrat party keeps letting them out.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A gun that you want on the street because nothing can be done to access without a bunch of people running in circles screaming " Second Amendment! Second Amendment!"

If you don't like the constitution, amend it.
Until you do, it's there, it means something, and you don't get to ignore it.

 

[satrebil]

There is a direct link between the policies of the democrat party and our gun crime in democrat party controlled cities...

here we have more from the democrat party city of Chicago......

Prosecutors: Boy fatally shot by man who was on "affordable bail" for gun charge

An Englewood man is charged with fatally shooting a 15-year-old boy while free on a recognizance bond and electronic monitoring as he awaited trial for allegedly possessing a stolen handgun.

And police say he was carrying another handgun when they arrested him last week.

It’s the latest in a string of violent crimes identified by CWBChicago that were allegedly committed by people who were on affordable bail while awaiting trial for gun crimes and other serious felonies.

-----
Last July, prosecutors charged Coleman with felony unlawful use of a weapon after police allegedly found a loaded handgun near his seat during a traffic stop on the 1900 block of West 57th Street. The gun, which had an extended ammunition magazine, had been reported stolen in Lafayette, Indiana, police said.


Judge John Lyke released Coleman on a recognizance bond with electronic monitoring the next day, according to court records.

In October, police executed a search warrant at Coleman’s home and allegedly found suspected narcotics packaging, a digital scale, and a 9-millimeter bullet.

Prosecutors charged him with possessing ammunition without a valid Firearm Owner’s ID card and Judge Susana Ortiz ordered him held without bail for violating the terms of his July bail bond.

So.....if you are a witness......do you want to testify against this guy if the democrat party judge is going to let him out on cashless bond?

My solution to gun crime....in particular gun crime created by the policies of the democrat party?

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

A gun that you want on the street because nothing can be done to access without a bunch of people running in circles screaming " Second Amendment! Second Amendment!"

Why don't you dumb shits ever call for crime control instead of gun control?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why don't you dumb shits ever call for crime control instead of gun control?

Because they want the state to have a monopoly on force.

 

[Mac-7]

If America cleared the country of 425 million guns and 18 million AR-15's this wouldn't have happened. Wouldn't it?

We cant ahree about banning guns

but cant we at least agree that releasing criminals who are caught with illegal firearms is a bad idea?

 

[2aguy]

Amber Guyger was convicted of murder while using a gun. Should she be in jail for her “gun crime”?

Sure. Why shouldn't she?

For life?

Again:
Sure. Why shouldn't she?

I agree...
she should spend life in prison

Now 2aguy says her shooting and killing a man in his own house wasn’t even a crime. satrebil

How about you address these policies of the democrats in Baltimore.....?

If you lock up those 100 gang members with real time.....as I suggest...

Life in prison if you use a gun in an actual crime.

30 years in prison if you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun.

Do this, and you cut Baltimores gun crime rate by...oh....95%....


Baltimore Democrats don't want Larry Hogan to rein in gun violence

Citing their opposition to mandatory minimum sentences, Democrats in the Maryland General Assembly say they are unlikely to pass Gov. Larry Hogan’s top priority this session ― the Violent Firearms Offender Act ― infuriating the governor who alleges lawmakers aren’t taking shootings in Baltimore seriously.

In an interview with The Baltimore Sun on Wednesday, Hogan argued that lawmakers who don’t support his legislation are out of touch with the views of most Marylanders and should step down from their leadership posts. On a table in his office at the State House, he spread out his internal polling results that show residents overwhelmingly want “tougher sentences for violent offenders who commit crimes with guns.”

Democrats in the Assembly are saying that bill won’t even make it out of the Judicial Proceedings Committee, so there won’t be a chance of a full floor vote or debate. Their objections are based on the removal of judicial discretion for a number of gun crimes in favor of mandatory minimum sentences.

But judicial discretion is a large part of the reason the city is dealing with a murder rate that’s worse than you would find in some war zones.

The Democrats are also arguing that the city of Baltimore already passed tougher gun laws two years ago, but they’ve done nothing to stem the violence.

That’s a disingenuous argument, however, because the new law only applied in certain parts of the city and provided only one year in jail for illegal possession of a firearm. That was an improvement over the previous average of six months (!) but it’s still a laughably short stretch for most of the hardened gang members.

The same Democrats are arguing that what Baltimore really needs is better enforcement of existing laws. They note that police only made 20,000 arrests in 2019 compared to an annual average of 100,000 when Martin O’Malley was the mayor. Also, the homicide clearance rate has fallen to just 32%. But why not do both?

The Baltimore PD released data showing that the average homicide suspect arrested in Baltimore has eight previous arrests.

They don’t have the resources to closely monitor all of the violent criminals who are out on parole, so the same shooters wind up being arrested over and over again.

They believe that fewer than 100 gang members are responsible for the lion’s share of the murders in the city, but they can’t keep them off the streets.

 

[candycorn]

Sure. Why shouldn't she?

For life?

Again:
Sure. Why shouldn't she?

I agree...
she should spend life in prison

Now 2aguy says her shooting and killing a man in his own house wasn’t even a crime. satrebil

How about you address these policies of the democrats in Baltimore.....?

If you lock up those 100 gang members with real time.....as I suggest...

Life in prison if you use a gun in an actual crime.

30 years in prison if you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun.

Do this, and you cut Baltimores gun crime rate by...oh....95%....


Baltimore Democrats don't want Larry Hogan to rein in gun violence

Citing their opposition to mandatory minimum sentences, Democrats in the Maryland General Assembly say they are unlikely to pass Gov. Larry Hogan’s top priority this session ― the Violent Firearms Offender Act ― infuriating the governor who alleges lawmakers aren’t taking shootings in Baltimore seriously.

In an interview with The Baltimore Sun on Wednesday, Hogan argued that lawmakers who don’t support his legislation are out of touch with the views of most Marylanders and should step down from their leadership posts. On a table in his office at the State House, he spread out his internal polling results that show residents overwhelmingly want “tougher sentences for violent offenders who commit crimes with guns.”

Democrats in the Assembly are saying that bill won’t even make it out of the Judicial Proceedings Committee, so there won’t be a chance of a full floor vote or debate. Their objections are based on the removal of judicial discretion for a number of gun crimes in favor of mandatory minimum sentences.

But judicial discretion is a large part of the reason the city is dealing with a murder rate that’s worse than you would find in some war zones.

The Democrats are also arguing that the city of Baltimore already passed tougher gun laws two years ago, but they’ve done nothing to stem the violence.

That’s a disingenuous argument, however, because the new law only applied in certain parts of the city and provided only one year in jail for illegal possession of a firearm. That was an improvement over the previous average of six months (!) but it’s still a laughably short stretch for most of the hardened gang members.

The same Democrats are arguing that what Baltimore really needs is better enforcement of existing laws. They note that police only made 20,000 arrests in 2019 compared to an annual average of 100,000 when Martin O’Malley was the mayor. Also, the homicide clearance rate has fallen to just 32%. But why not do both?

The Baltimore PD released data showing that the average homicide suspect arrested in Baltimore has eight previous arrests.

They don’t have the resources to closely monitor all of the violent criminals who are out on parole, so the same shooters wind up being arrested over and over again.

They believe that fewer than 100 gang members are responsible for the lion’s share of the murders in the city, but they can’t keep them off the streets.

Shooting a man in his own home is an actual crime.

I guess you don’t value some victim’s lives as much as you do others.