I read what you posted. That doesn't mean I agree with you. And just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm not reading what you post.
So Hitler gave paid vacation, breaks were longer, job security and a social system. And because you see this, somehow this automatically makes Hitler left wing, just based on this. What nonsense.
No, you didn't read the post(s). I said that's socialism, not right wing. I said it more closely resembles the left than the right. Socialism is on the left in most people's books.
If you look at what else was written you'll see ""Every member of an Aryan enterprise community shall assume the responsibilities required by his position in the said common enterprise." In other words, at the head of the company or the enterprise would be a living, breathing executive in charge, not a moneybags with unconditional power."
Aryan enterprise community. Seem a little suspicious to you? The reality is that Aryans got a higher status. Others got nothing. Jews did not get any of this. Nor slavs. Hitler merely changed the order of things. The Hierarchy was no longer the Emperor at the top and then working down to the working class people. Hitler had it so that the "Aryans" or Germanic people were pushed up ahead of all others.
You are flopping around all over the place here, they were national socialists. That means they were still socialists but with a racial slant. That doesn't change their social control over economics. A capitalist can be a nationalist too.
Similar to much of the far right in Europe now and what they want.
Also, you have to remember that this is about ethnic Nationalism, always was. This is considered right wing to far right.
Again, you're putting US politics today into German 1920s and 1930s. The working people had suffered a lot in the history of the world, Hitler was one of these. Giving working class people better conditions is not necessarily left wing, and it certainly doesn't cancel out all of the right wing policies that were implemented.
So if they killed everyone not Aryan, set up a socialist run economic system, it can't be called socialism?
You say for the collective good is socialism. So when the US goes to war in Iraq or Afghanistan supposedly for the good of the country, this is in fact Socialist George Bush going to war? Or are you saying he only went to war for a few rich people?
Nationalism is often about the good of a collective group, patriotism is also the same thing, trying to bring people together under the flag, the anthem and all that. Or are you suggesting that anyone patriotic is just a schmuck who is being taken for a ride by the rich?
You are confusing terms. Doing what one sees as good for America doesn't make them a socialist. Stripping away individual rights for the good of the collective does. That's what a collective is. You become a worker bee in the hive. That isn't right wing.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
Hitler was a GERMAN ETHNIC NATIONALIST. There were Germanic peoples in various border countries of Germany.
As for the rest, the Slavs and anyone else, they weren't being brought into the fold, they were generally being enslaved, especially the Slavs and the Jews.
Russia was going to be made into a new homeland for the German people, good farm land would be settled and within a few generations after the victory in WW2 the whole area would have forgotten about the Slavic peoples.
Yes, the master race would remain the master race but the common people would be slaves of the state too. That's socialism. Not right wing.
Really? Coming from someone who seems to know have the slightest clue what he's talking about. Posting quotes that don't prove your point but you start insulting when someone tells you that you don't have anything to go on. Making leaps of faith with this too and pretending that it's all left wing without so much as a decent argument.
Then fluffing up history so much that it was if Hitler was offering the Slavs and Jews a nice cup of tea and then amazing job opportunities, especially in the camps I'd not doubt.
Give me a break.
So your stinking word farts are supposed to overide the quotes that demonstrate it was socialism? LOL. You don't like the fact that the Nazis had a socialist system, we get it. Tough shit tough, facts are stubborn things.
This is just groundhog day. You're just repeating the same thing over and over as if saying nonsense 100 times will make it true.
Is North Korea Democratic? They seem to think so, hence why the D in their name is Democratic.
If they set up a system which isn't socialist, then they are socialists. Got it? And they didn't set up a Socialist system.
Let's try the definition of Socialism for you.
socialism definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary American English US
"A
political and
economictheory of
social organization that
advocates that the
means of production,
distribution, and
exchange should be
owned or regulated by the
communityas a whole."
Nazi Germany? Nope. Why? There were private companies operating for profit. In fact Hitler PRIVATIZED national industries.
American Heritage Dictionary Entry socialism
"Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."
Nazi Germany? Nope, same reason.
Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
"1 any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a
: a system of
society or group living in which there is no private property
b
: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in
Marxist theory transitional between
capitalism and
communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"
Nazi Germany? Nope, same reasons, there was private ownership of companies AND private property.
socialism - definition. American English definition of socialism with pronunciation by Macmillan Dictionary
"
a political system that aims to create a society in which everyone has equal opportunities and in which the most important industries are owned or controlled by the whole community"
Nazi Germany? Nope. Equality was not a measure of Nazi Germany, clearly. And industry was no owned or controlled by the whole community.
You're probably using a different definition then, which is what?
Actually, working like a slave is actually very right wing. It's also a part of extremism, it's why it's called extremism in the first place, because people are generally forced into something. The fact that you're trying to claim it's only left wing is just ridiculous.
When right and left wing became a term, in the French Revolution, those on the right wing were more monarchist, which was you served your king or lord and that was about it.
You seem to just pick and choose which bits you like without working on the basis that everyone else is working on. This isn't communication, sorry.
Also, Socialism was considered a stage towards Communism where everyone would be free and equal within society. No hierarchy at all, decisions made by the group for the group.
Conservatism, considered right wing, you would probably agree, comes from what was in the past. Strong leadership with a hierarchy. Now, clearly that was Hitler. To some extent it was also Stalin which is why the USSR was NOT Communist. However it was left wing in many aspects, and it was also EXTREME which meant the people didn't have a choice.
This seems to be where you're getting majorly confused. You're trying to go left and right when you should be going up and down and in and out, not left and right to figure out what you're talking about.
And you still think those quotes somehow prove Nazi Germany was Socialist. Efing hell.
