History of mRNA

[JohnDB]

Not all mRNA vaccines are created equal...

It was rather suspect that Pfizer needed that cold of temperatures to be effective...now we can see the results...

Moderna Vaccine More Effective Than Pfizer, J&J, Especially After 4 Months: CDC

Moderna's vaccine is slightly more effective than Pfizer's or J&'s in preventing hospitalization, though the gap widens substantially after four months.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Quasar44]

JohnDB
I am aware it’s been worked on since the 70s but this was one of the biggest medical breakthroughs in awhile

 

[LA RAM FAN]

check this out

 

[JohnDB]

New antibody discovery....

DEFINE_ME.

This discovery was made possible by new technology developed at Vanderbilt University...

What this means is that a new final round of vaccines and therapies are going to be developed quickly...this pandemic will be over by this time next year. (At a guess)

 

[JohnDB]

For those who have issues with reading science heavy articles....

Vanderbilt: Discovery of ‘ultra-potent’ antibody could help with COVID, other viruses

VUMC said researchers can also use the technology to screen antibodies against other viruses that have not yet caused human disease but have the potential of doing so.

www.newschannel5.com

 

[Baron]

The tangled history of mRNA vaccines

For those who keep thinking that this is new technology...it really isn't.

And all testing animal died within a short time.
Great

 

[rupol2000]

Just wrote on this issue, just repeat:

So it was before, now they use very complex genetic engineering technologies, to the extent that they launch "live" viruses that supposedly generate proteins to which antibodies supposedly react.

PS Although there are also doubts about the safety of old technologies too. They usually use vague terms "for the people", like "dead virus", "weakened virus", but the virus cannot be either one or the other, it is just a floppy disk from which the code is read. And it is not clear what they mean. Yes, in theory, for example, if you pull out DNA or RNA, and inject only the shells, it should be safe, but who knows what they actually did there.

 

[JohnDB]

Just wrote on this issue, just repeat:

So it was before, now they use very complex genetic engineering technologies, to the extent that they launch "live" viruses that supposedly generate proteins to which antibodies supposedly react.

PS Although there are also doubts about the safety of old technologies too. They usually use vague terms "for the people", like "dead virus", "weakened virus", but the virus cannot be either one or the other, it is just a floppy disk from which the code is read. And it is not clear what they mean. Yes, in theory, for example, if you pull out DNA or RNA, and inject only the shells, it should be safe, but who knows what they actually did there.

Most of the chemical engineering for medicines is a highly complicated field...taking laboratory success to production level success is a very difficult task...there are millions of patents for processes that haven't worked.

Meaning that there are laboratory made successful medicines that can't be mass produced. Making them worthless.

When it comes time for DNA and RNA medicines and protein folding and all of this stuff...it's so far beyond what the average person is capable of understanding that it's unbelievable.

The latest discovery of an antibody is somewhat of a miracle. People have literally trillions of antibodies on any given day. The ones that the current vaccines work from were discovered by "fishing" in a pool of 50,000 antibodies using a viron. The two antibodies currently focused upon by the Vaccines and antibody cocktail are those two.

But...using a computer and new processes they discovered a much better antibody that will stop ALL the variants.

They will then work "backwards" and develop a much better vaccine and antibody cocktail treatments. It's going to take time...but they got it. (Bout a year)

 

[Rigby5]

The article is wrong.
It has never successfully been used for a vaccine, ever.
This is a new experiment, and according to the CDC, miraculously RNA that is injected will get into cells, which is impossible, and it will cause your own cells to start growing spike proteins.
That is ridiculously dangerous and likely impossible since even if you could get the RNA into the cells, there would be no way to control how many spike proteins your own cells decided to make.
What they are claiming makes no sense, so they likely are lying.
And sensitizing the immune system to spike proteins itself is a stupid and dangerous thing to do since other coronaviruses use them, like the common cold, as well as our own exosomes.

 

[Rigby5]

Just wrote on this issue, just repeat:

So it was before, now they use very complex genetic engineering technologies, to the extent that they launch "live" viruses that supposedly generate proteins to which antibodies supposedly react.

PS Although there are also doubts about the safety of old technologies too. They usually use vague terms "for the people", like "dead virus", "weakened virus", but the virus cannot be either one or the other, it is just a floppy disk from which the code is read. And it is not clear what they mean. Yes, in theory, for example, if you pull out DNA or RNA, and inject only the shells, it should be safe, but who knows what they actually did there.

They don't have to remove the DNA or RNA from a virus in order to make it safe.
All they have to do is imbue it with chemicals that latch onto all the information sites and essentially bury then within an inert layer.
You can also do this with heat, acid, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

Most of the chemical engineering for medicines is a highly complicated field...taking laboratory success to production level success is a very difficult task...there are millions of patents for processes that haven't worked.

Meaning that there are laboratory made successful medicines that can't be mass produced. Making them worthless.

When it comes time for DNA and RNA medicines and protein folding and all of this stuff...it's so far beyond what the average person is capable of understanding that it's unbelievable.

The latest discovery of an antibody is somewhat of a miracle. People have literally trillions of antibodies on any given day. The ones that the current vaccines work from were discovered by "fishing" in a pool of 50,000 antibodies using a viron. The two antibodies currently focused upon by the Vaccines and antibody cocktail are those two.

But...using a computer and new processes they discovered a much better antibody that will stop ALL the variants.

They will then work "backwards" and develop a much better vaccine and antibody cocktail treatments. It's going to take time...but they got it. (Bout a year)

But this is all very new, unknown, and risky.
For example, by sensitizing the immune system to spike proteins, you run the risk of a deadly autoimmune response to the common cold corona virus which had always been relatively benign before.
And then there are the spike proteins used by our own exosomes, to gain ACE2 receptor sites.

 

[Rigby5]

The originator, Dr. Robert Malone, says these mRNA are rushed junk.

 

[rupol2000]

They don't have to remove the DNA or RNA from a virus in order to make it safe.
All they have to do is imbue it with chemicals that latch onto all the information sites and essentially bury then within an inert layer.
You can also do this with heat, acid, etc.

However, we have no reliable information that they are guaranteed to isolate the code.

 

[JohnDB]

But this is all very new, unknown, and risky.
For example, by sensitizing the immune system to spike proteins, you run the risk of a deadly autoimmune response to the common cold corona virus which had always been relatively benign before.
And then there are the spike proteins used by our own exosomes, to gain ACE2 receptor sites.

You really have no idea what you are talking about...

 

[badger2]

New antibody discovery....

DEFINE_ME.

This discovery was made possible by new technology developed at Vanderbilt University...

What this means is that a new final round of vaccines and therapies are going to be developed quickly...this pandemic will be over by this time next year. (At a guess)

And this Vanderbilt piece of shit propaganda hasn’t the stones to mention the first amino acid involved! Shove it.

 

[JohnDB]

And this Vanderbilt piece of shit propaganda hasn’t the stones to mention the first amino acid involved! Shove it.

They were the ones that has lead the world in virus identification for the last 20+ years and antibody identification.

And the article is obviously beyond your reading comprehension level.