History of Iraq

[rupol2000]

Most likely, the ancient history of Iraq is not Arab. Iraq is the Arabic name for Babylon, it was also known as Uruk, this root is similar to the word "urbanization", and this apparently meant simply "city".
Most likely the Arabs came from Assyria, or they founded Assyria. Babylon was hostile to Assyria, In alliance with Media, they defeated Assyria.
It is possible that Babylon was also related to the ancient Aryans, because the Babylonian mythology associated with the actions of Marduk is a variant of the Aryan serpent-fighting myth.

 

[surada]

Most likely, the ancient history of Iraq is not Arab. Iraq is the Arabic name for Babylon, it was also known as Uruk, this root is similar to the word "urbanization", and this apparently meant simply "city".
Most likely the Arabs came from Assyria, or they founded Assyria. Babylon was hostile to Assyria, In alliance with Media, they defeated Assyria.
It is possible that Babylon was also related to the ancient Aryans, because the Babylonian mythology associated with the actions of Marduk is a variant of the Aryan serpent-fighting myth.

Th Akkadians came from Arabia.

Ancient Akkadian Civilization – Ancient Civilizations World

Ancient Akkadian Civilization – Ancient Civilizations World

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Jun 27, 2017 · The Akkadians were Semitic nomads, originating from the Arabian Peninsula, who began to migrate towards the Fertile Crescent at the time of the development of the first Mesopotamian city-states. The Akkadians were one of the most important peoples in Mesopotamia, present in the north of the region, an area that included the city of Kish.

 

[rupol2000]

Th Akkadians came from Arabia.

Ancient Akkadian Civilization – Ancient Civilizations World

It is believed that the Akkadians adopted the culture of the Sumerians. Probably the Sumerians are the ancestors of the Babylonians.

 

[rupol2000]

Akkadians were Semitic nomads, originating from the Arabian Peninsula

I think they were not nomads. There are no conditions for animal husbandry in the deserts of Arabia. There is abcent not only food for livestock, but even water. On the contrary, they were farmers who organized the oasis form of agriculture. Their most likely descendants are the Assyrians. Assyria is the first agricultural empire.

 

[surada]

I think they were not nomads. There are no conditions for animal husbandry in the deserts of Arabia. There is abcent not only food for livestock, but even water. On the contrary, they were farmers who organized the oasis form of agriculture. Their most likely descendants are the Assyrians. Assyria is the first agricultural empire.

 

[surada]

I think they were not nomads. There are no conditions for animal husbandry in the deserts of Arabia. There is abcent not only food for livestock, but even water. On the contrary, they were farmers who organized the oasis form of agriculture. Their most likely descendants are the Assyrians. Assyria is the first agricultural empire.

Bedouin in Arabia had a symbiotic relationship with settled people who lived around oasis or artisian wells.

The relationships were also familial. The bedu took the livestock to places to graze.. following available pasture .. They provided meat, salt, hides to the townies and the townies provides grains, dates, textiles etc. They also took children from the town away with them to avoid disease more prevalent in towns and villages for part of the year.

They were most definitely Bedouin and herdsmen..

They domesticated horses and camels very early about 90,000 years ago.

Arabia was once a savanna with grasslands, shallow lakes and wadis. As it became more arid about 10-12,000 years the Arabs began migrating north in waves.

 

[rupol2000]

following available pasture

There is no pastures, suitable for raising livestock.

at least there are not many.

 

[surada]

There is no pastures, suitable for raising livestock.

at least there are not many.

I lived there for 2 decades.. Even now the government has set up bedu camps in perpetuity along the grazing routes.

Its not grassy like Kentucky.. but scrubby grass still feeds goats and camels.

 

[rupol2000]

usually such places look like this, and there are fresh watering holes

 

[rupol2000]

I lived there for 2 decades.. Even now the government has set up bedu camps in perpetuity along the grazing routes.

Its not grassy like Kentucky.. but scrubby grass still feeds goats and camels.

This is nonsense, they probably feed them additional imported food. If the horse normally eats about a bucket of grain, then the camel needs even more.

 

[surada]

usually such places look like this, and there are fresh watering holes

More like this.

 

[surada]

 

[rupol2000]

More like this

I think that camels are really able to endure hunger and thirst, since they have reserves in the hump, but after the hike, they should eat and drink normally and replenish those reserves. They should eat enough fresh grass, grains and drink well. Now Arabia sells oil and buys food, but in those days they could not feed the herds in such conditions when they themselves had nothing to eat.

 

[surada]

I think that camels are really able to endure hunger and thirst, since they have reserves in the hump, but after the hike, they should eat and drink normally and replenish those reserves. They should eat enough fresh grass, grains and drink well. Now Arabia sells oil and buys food, but in those days they could not feed the herds in such conditions when they themselves had nothing to eat.

Saudi Arabia was still quite poor in the 1950s and 1960s and Bedoun lived as they had at the time of Christ. The bedu bought grain from the townies to eat.. They didn't feed grains to their livestock.

Have you ever been to a Bedouin camp? Your assumptions are all wrong.

 

[rupol2000]

Saudi Arabia was still quite poor in the 1950s and 1960s and Bedoun lived as they had at the time of Christ. The bedu bought grain from the townies to eat.. They didn't feed grains to their livestock.

Have you ever been to a Bedouin camp? Your assumptions are all wrong.

There can be no mistake. If there is no fodder base then no livestock. Isolated cases cannot be considered as the main economic activity of the region.
But in fact, even to feed 10 rabbits, you will not have enough grass there and not clear where is water.
One camel weighs 500-700 kg.

 

[rupol2000]

The average adult workhorse eats about one and a half tons of oats, 4-5 tons of hay, 500 kg of bran, and a ton of carrots per year. Even if we assume that a camel eats 2 times less, it’s impossible to imagine that it is possible to feed a herd of camels in such a desert. If the desert was at least the same as in Asia, in the form of an arid steppe, it would be possible.

 

[surada]

There can be no mistake. If there is no fodder base then no livestock. Isolated cases cannot be considered as the main economic activity of the region.
But in fact, even to feed 10 rabbits, you will not have enough grass there and not clear where is water.
One camel weighs 500-700 kg.

Where are you from? Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, Iraq or Kuwait? How about Libya?

 

[surada]

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[rupol2000]

And in general, cattle do not feed on grass alone, this is a myth. They must eat grains. In the rich steppes, they naturally eat wild cereals. Grass without grain is not nutritious and insufficient for their normal development.

And camels drink a lot of water, 30-70 liters per day. They eat legumes, cereals and so on.

This is all political nonsense.

Apparently, they mainly lived in the region of Bactria. There is a Bactrian camel.
They were also used by riders for military purposes.

 

[surada]

And in general, cattle do not feed on grass alone, this is a myth. They must eat grains. In the rich steppes, they naturally eat wild cereals. Grass without grain is not nutritious and insufficient for their normal development.

And camels drink a lot of water, 30-70 liters per day. They eat legumes, cereals and so on.

This is all political nonsense.

Apparently, they mainly lived in the region of Bactria. There is a Bactrian camel.
They were also used by riders for military purposes.

LOLOLOL.. You must be very young.

Bactrian camels don't live in the ME at all. They are from the steppes of Central Asia. Think Mongols.