Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.
Russia and China are still struggling with the legacy of genocidal communism. Eastern Europe still suffers after decades of Soviet-imposed socialist chaos.
Cuba, Nicaragua, North Korea and Venezuela are unfree, poor and failed states. Baathism -- a synonym for pan-Arabic socialism -- ruined the postwar Middle East.
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Because Work is hard and doesn’t leave enough time to smoke weed, play video games and jack off with their buddies.....and FREE is a word that the socialist educators have inbeded into their heads without explaining that NOTHING IS FREE, whether you pay for it now or down the road!
I'd like to know why you and every other conservative in the USA is such an idiot.
Most every liberal and progressive I know does NOT WANT SOCIALISM like in "venezuela" or "cuba"
we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.
But every time we say that, ignorant morons like you accuse us of wanting SOCIALISM like in Venezuela!
so
why do you do that?
why do you lie?
who do you accuse us of wanting socialism like VENEZUELA even though we say we do NOT want that, even though we STATE we want socialism like NORWAY.....
?
why?
are you a lying piece of scum?
or you a ROTTEN lying piece of scum?
do you have a desire to kill people for crimes they didn't actually commit?
we do NOT want SOCIALISM like VENZUELA!
we want socialism like in Norway.
Norway is not socialist. They have a few socialized systems, and those systems have problems.
However, none of the Nordic countries are socialist. None of them. They are very much capitalist.
The rich in Norway, are exceptionally rich. The poor in Norway, are poor.
7 Important Facts to Know About Poverty in Norway
Norway recently banned street begging. Because there were too many of them.
One reason poverty in Norway is generally low, is because they tightly control immigration. Even so, the majority of immigrants remain in poverty.
What part of Norway, do you consider "socialist"? They have a homogeneous society that is the exact opposite of multi-cultural.
Lutheran was the official religion of the state up till recently. 77% of population is Christian, and 70% of that is the Church of Norway, which still to this day is funded by the government.
86% of the people are ethnic Norwegians, and the majority of the rest are from similar peoples, like Finish and Roma and other Scandinavian people.
Very little diversity.
As far as tax is concerned, there is very little if any 'redistribution' of wealth in the tax code.
The lower class pays 20% of their income in taxes. The middle class easily 30%, the highest tax level is under 40%.
What this means is that by far, the middle and lower class are losing 1/4th of their income in taxes.
And that doesn't include the sales tax of 25% that typically would hit the poorest people more than the richest.
Then add to that, the fact everything is vastly more expensive. You want to take your wife out on a date out to eat? One person, for one main dish, can easily run you $35. That's for the dish, no drink. Double that if you want to also pay for your wife's meal.
You want go on a road trip, and rent a nice car for your vacation? Average rental, is $170/day... that's for a VW Passat, not an American size SUV. Get comfortable. Oh and don't drive too far, because gas is $7 a gallon.
Now you might say that having a lower standard of living for everyone in the country is fine, because you get free education, and health care.
However, that ignores the problems in the Norwegin health care system.
Norway-USA in contrast: Wages and taxes - The Norwegian American
They have a crisis in the lack of GPs. Low payouts from the health care system, has made being a doctor unattractive. The
Trønder rebellion a protest by doctors of the system, is demanding more pay, which of course would require more taxes, or higher fees on patients. Patients in Norway are already required to pay for doctor visits.
Additionally the wait times in Norway are still relatively high compared to the US. In 2017, an article was published here in the US, that wait times were 'soaring' to 24 days to see a doctor in many cities. In Norway, 60 days is normal. And that's just to see a doctor. Surgeries and electives can take months or years. Many Norwegians leave the country for car elsewhere.
‘Socialist’ Nordic Countries Are Actually Moving Toward Private Health Care
This is why even in these Nordic countries that you suggest have seen drastically increasing private markets. Private insurance plans. Private hospitals. One o the key selling points is.... shorter wait times.
So again... nothing socialist about these countries. Very unequal. Not diverse. Extremely capitalist.
There's a reason the PM of Denmark, had to slap Bernie down.
Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist
