Juicin
Preface*- Jews are the primary example of a broken people who have not folded. Discrimination and everything else does not follow with bad behavior. Just because black america did it doesn't make it the only option. That is not how the majority of groups react to discrimination. And it's not that your culture wasn't in tact. It was that you were randomly chosen as slaves.
The Jewish people are white. The Jews got to where they are because of racism.
Yes the Jews suffered. But whatever stereotypes they may have had then does not impact them now.
- The Jews didn't suffer from hundreds of years of slavery - Because they were White.
- The Jews could vote by the 1860s, not the 1960s – Because they were White.
- The Jews qualified for the Homestead Act, the G.I. Bill and FHA loans – Because they were White.
- The Jews could live in nice neighbourhoods and go to nice schools – Because they were White.
If they fill out a job application TODAY : No one cares if they are Jewish.
You're just another white person.
- No one follows them around in the store.
- No one assumes they are lazy.
- No one assumes they're child-like and can’t take care of yourself.
- No one assumes their criminals.
- No one tells them they are so much better off in America so they should be glad their ancestors were slaves.
- No one acts like they did them a favor or saved you from a backwardness.
- No one displays their human reminds as primitive until the late 70s.
The same cannot be said for a black person.
Some of the leaders of the American Nazi Party like Dan Burros and Frank Collin were Jewish so they got on board "let's hate blk ppl" train to the max
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And the irony is
Black American soldiers helped to free the jews when they were getting wiped out by Hitler and his boys
When people discuss WW2 and the holocaust in Europe. They leave out that Black American soldiers in the front lines in WW2 defeating the Nazis and liberating people from concentration cam[s
And Jewish people in Israel get millions each day from the USA and they use that to shit on kill oppress the darker skinned palestinians
Juicin
While they are modern self selecting immigrants with IQ's well over the median of where they come from. We have no reason to think ADOS aren't representative of very average West Africans. Modern immigrants are not representative of their home countries. Asian, African, Eastern Euro whatever
Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don’t care about that.
All I want to know from all these guys who are always running around trying to prove how stupid blk ppl are is this :
What do you do with a race of black people you claim are stupid ?
“You’re saying I’m stupid ? OK. I’ll take that. Now what ? Hmm ? Now what ?“
But you notice they never talk about what should be done bcos they know they’re gonna have to start talking some real sh*t.
So instead they go on TV programme, on podcasts, on blogs, on forums and radio shows and everyone get’s all stupid and tries to debunk them and they run off laughing saying “Job done. Now pay me”
I would not waste one second trying to prove to anyone that black ppl are inteligent. Not ever. All I want to know is - What are they gonna do ? Lock up all the dumb blk ppl and put them on island ?
But if they grew some balls and said “Ladies and Gents. Tomorrow we are gonna stop telling black people what they are and we are gonna finally tell them what we gonna do”
I’d be like
And I’d tune in and if they said “We are gonna kill every blk person on the planet or die trying”
Again I’d be like
And I’d go down fighting. And if we are not meant to be here. We are not to be here. So stop trying to prove points. We don’t need points. Stop the B.S or let’s just get it on. For the last time and for the final time.
Juicin
And shocker african immigrants do not do as well as teh Asians because the average Asian IQ is 105 and the average African IQ is 85. The only Africans who have a shot at beating the Asians are ones who were breeding themselves into higher IQs like the Ashkenazi.
If you truly believed that Asians are superior to whites and smarter and add to the quality of schools and workplaces, then why aren’t guys like you clamouring for a massive increase in immigration from Asian nations ?
Why not flood the borders ? Since we could all benefit from a little more Asian genius ? Why not have white CEOs step down from their positions and let Japanese managers take their place ?
Imagine if America was built by Chinese slave labour and most of the Africans that were allowed into the country were doctors and engineers and university students, though some poor Africans were allowed in after America’s misadventures in the Angolan War. Would it then be right to to say:
“Look how well the Africans do! They come here with nothing, and they’re not even white! What’s wrong with the Chinese? It can’t be racism.
I would like to see how well these “Asians” would do, if their first, second, third, fourth, fifth and lets say sixth generations were slaves and after that they would be kicked out to handle themselves in the face of deeply ingrained cultural racism.
How would these geniuses manage with no education, no money, no funds, no clothes?
Would they outscore white in schools ? In their own schools that is, not in the same ones the whites are going? Would they surge to the top of the society from their ghettos were they would be forced to live in by institutional racism ? Actually, how many leading American Asians come from the China Towns of USA ? Most of them ? All of them ? According this argument, they all should. But do they ?
If this argument would be right, then we must ask why the hell all those Chinese lived confined to those TB infested China Towns for decades ? After all, they were smarter than whites and blacks ? No ?
And let's not forget the Tamils. How many of them are thriving in American society ? How many Tamils are among the top scorers ? They should be there since they Asians too. No ?
Juicin
Black guys are pound for pound more athletic than the rest of us, especially as you go up in size.
The original story was that black people were inferior in body and brains. Remember this guy ?
In the 1936 Olympics Hitler was confident that his Aryan athletes would dominate the Black American sprinters. But due to black American sprinter Jessie Owens it didn’t quite work out that way:
So the white Supremacists pretended that they had never believed that white people were physically superior to black people and that their ideas had not been embarrassingly refuted.
So now brains were more important, so if black people were to be sold to the world as inferior, it would have to be based on us being genetically stupid.
How convenient
I'm sure you'll say "Look at how many black people are in the the NBA" OK. So why don't blacks dominate volleyball the same way ? You need to be able to jump at that. Right ?
And if black people are so naturally good at basketball then why don't African nations like Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast dominate international dominate basketball comps ?
They're pure black with little white admixture in them and according to you blackness and strength go hand in hand then why are African teams so average ?
Why aren't all championship high jumpers black ?
I don't believe that whites are physically advantaged in shooting, hockey pucks, lifting barbells, skating, or rowing. Do you ?
- Every player who has ever won an NHL scoring title is white.
- Why is every Olympic weightlifting record is held by a Caucasian ?
- Why are all strong man comps won by whites ?
- Why are all all championship speed skaters are white.
- Every major league pitcher who has ever won 300 games is white.
- Almost all Olympic champions rowers and kayakers are white,
Black ppl thrive in sports that feature three things
That's why young urban black athletes who are strong in sports keep gravitatating to the same five:
- Modest equipment investment
- High social and cultural approval
- Fame and wealth as a pro.
The fundamentals of these sports can be learned at a very young age
- Basketball,
- Football,
- Baseball,
- Track & field
- And increasingly tennis.
Thousands of hours can be spent practicing as a kid in the streets. The rewards for top talent can be scouted and developed from middle school on.
You just don't get the same community support or interest if you're black and happen to have an interest Hockey or Nascar. Look what happens when we do try our hand motor racing. You get Lewis Hamilton. A man who has won the Formula One drivers championship for 6 out of the last 7 years
Juicin
Yes we all have different median IQ's.
OK. So why in neurology does no one takes IQ seriously ?
Neurologists who have a better understanding of how the brain works because they spend decades of their lives studying it have little to no use for it, but to the public at large it is so important.
Why is that the case ?
Alfred Binet created IQ test’s to see which children weren’t profiting from the Parisian school
system, not so that they could be labelled stupid but so new educational programs could be created to help those children. He was afraid that his tests would be misused for nepharious reasons, and Alfred must have been psychic because once the certain people got a hold of it, it took on a whole new meaning
Juicin
Why people think IQ is just going to magically line up even when literally nothing else genetic does I have no idea.
When you look at the different rates of educational success between different European subgroups, you see a wide variety of accomplishment.
The reason that I want to point this out is that it goes to the heart of this argument that white IQ or that white intelligence is somehow hard-wired.
So for example, if you look at Census data, the completion rates, college completion rates, for various white groups, range from a low end of 21.3% of Irish-Americans with college degrees up to 51% of Russian Americans with college degrees. In between that you’ve got Swedes at 27.5, English at 28.6, Scottish at 33.4, Germans at 22.1.
In other words you have a pretty broad spread of difference. The reason I bring that out is that, why is it that people who claim that race is some biologically hard-wired thing and that success is related to IQ which is related to biology and race: if that’s true, then I guess one would have to conclude that based on the rank ordering of Europeans that
But of course guys like you never make this argument. You do like to compare the educational success rates of whites, with blacks, with Latinos, with Asians writ large.
- Russian-Americans are the most intelligent and biologically superior
- Followed by Scots
- Followed by English
- Followed by Swedes
- Followed by Poles
- Followed by Germans
- Followed by the Irish
But you never want to disaggregate the white totals because that would demonstrate a wide variety, and that might call into question their racial taxonomy which is so rigid.
Juicin
Even if we were all 100% the same culturally and took the same actions. You would still see a huge distribution in IQ. Because it's as far as we can tell mostly heritable. Like most things
White people were saying blk ppl were stupid long before the IQ. So let's stop playing.
Behavior, intelligence, and other such traits are fundamentally incapable of being accurately measured due to the inability to develop universal standards of measurement. There is no single type of intelligence, and one person’s aggression is another’s passivity.
Human biology and genetics do vary, and do exhibit many characteristics grounded in these areas, but they are not the sole cause, or the sole determinant. And because experimentation is impossible due to contamination, the only evidence available are correlations, which leaves scientists unable to definitively determine causation.
These are pretty basic things which, unfortunately, a small and vocal wing of Americans regularly espouse. But ppl are readily willing to believe it even despite the plethora of contradictory evidence. This willingness towards racism is something which is at the heart of every single discussion on the Jared Taylor and the rest.
Juicin
Black America is about 93.
So if IQ is so important and trustworthy then why don't you drive you argument to it's logical conclusion ? Whey aren't you demanding everything is based on IQ ?
Why not give all the top positions to those with the highest IQ? Why have elections? Why have job interviews or resumes? Why not have birth licences or sterilization based on IQ.
Until you start talking like that and demanding that everything be based on IQ then you don't believe a word your saying
Juicin
But average Indian AMerican IQ is ~110.
If you are trying to ground IQ as a genetic product of race the very first thing you need to do is
offer up a genetic or biological definition of race, something no one has not done nor has any
study.
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No-one has shown that human variation is great enough to account for differences of IQ, nor has
anyone established the veracity of IQ as a legitimate measurement.
No one has provided an inextricable link between genetics, race, and IQ outside of methodologically flawed correlations.
Which are those “races” then, purely scientifically speaking and in clear text ?
What are the precise genetic criteria for making this classiffication ?
However you twist it, you will run in circles and eventually spiral back into concepts based on human perception alone.
Intelligence is not something quantifiable (not sure if that is a word) you can’t measure how intelligent someone is because you would have to be able to define intelligence very specifically and that can’t be done because intelligence, like many words that define brain functions is an umbrella term that describes several properties of thought(communication, reasoning, understanding) working in tandem.
Juicin
We do much worse in the UK because british Indians are more representative of a random sample of India.
OK. So what about whites ? If there is enough genetic difference for whites to have diferent hair color, eye color and different average height, then why not intelligence?
Who are the genetically dumber and disadvantaged Whites ? The answer is because this is not science, it’s politics and to ask that question does not serve the political goals of racist Whites.
You don’t want to face the idea that you might belong to the dumbest group of White people in your little hierarchy, So you theorize that “Whiteness” simply makes all Whites just as capable, and all Blacks equally disadvantaged.
Juicin
Ironic that you mention blacks in a time where you wre actually discriminated against. In WW2 the average black soldier had a higher bar than the average white, so you got the results you would expect. Very competent black soldiers relative to white.
Still the same for white advantage.
How do you explain the recent scandal were affluent white and non black individuals, including television actors, corporate executives and bankers bribed and frauded their way to get admission for their children into America's most prestigious universities ?
The worst thing about this cheating scandal is that the system is already set up for whites to achieve in education.
Thats why you have the get University of Michigan (And many uni's in America) who give out 16 points to kids from certain lily-white Upper Peninsulas.
And 4 points for children of overwhelmingly white alumni ?
And 10 points for students who went to the state’s “top” schools ?
And 8 points for those who took a full slate of Advanced Placement classes in high schools (which classes are far less available in schools serving students blk students)
They're letting dumb-ass white students in there all day because of their fathers or uncles. Most blacks applying could run circles around them academically but they would never ever be admitted.
College admissions is nothing but game.
They can and do say anything to black students "your application was late" “it got lost” "We don’t like your essay"............. ANYTHING.
They reserve over 60% of seats for white students at most schools, graduate and undergraduate and then about 10-20% for asians and Indians.
Juicin
Try that in 2021 with affirmative action and see how proud you are...? lol.
This was this guy called Vijay Chokalingam. He tried to "prove" that dumb blks are unfairly getting into uni with all this AA.
He's Mindy Kalling’s brother. That’s Mindy Kaling the actress who starred in the the Mindy Project
He (Vijay Chokalingam) wrote a book about how he pretended to be a black man to get into uni’s with the same score that he could not get into as Asian man to prove that this system is racist to Asians and whites and biased to black.
He shaved the hair of his head off and applied as a black man
He had a 3.1 GPA and MCAT score of 31Q.
He submitted applications to medical school and an essay to 26 top and middle-tier medical schools around the country named “Jojo Chokalingam”
He claims he was admitted to St. Louis University School of Medicine.
This is ranked #57th in the country and that was evidence of “less stringent” standards for black applicants.
What he did not say was that he was rejected from most of the medical schools he applied to:
He withdrew his application from quite a few schools when he realized that those rejections would go against his agenda those included Vanderbilt University and Harvard University and a few others.
- Columbia University,
- Cornell University
- George Washington University
- Mount Sinai
- University of Nebraska
- Nobay
- University of Pittsburgh
- University of Rochester
- University of Pennsylvania
- Washington University
- University of Wisconsin
- Yale University
- Case Western.
But he made a BIG DEAL that he received an invitation to apply from other schools based on his MCAT score (mostly lower-tier schools such as Ohio University) without noting that he received those letters for no other reason than his MCAT score actually was within the range acceptable to these schools.
This clown (as a black man) was rejected from 93% of schools he applied to but he wanted everyone to focus on the fact that he was accepted into a single medical school.
Juicin
The jews have been consistently purged by "westerners" for millenia because they're insane. Kings kicking them out of nations to try to wipe debt.
The Jews are seen as whites. So they benefit from system of white supremacy. Take Jewish Mark Zuckerberg (Founder of Facebook) he attended two of the most expensive and prestigious schools in the USA (Harvard, Phillips Exeter Academy).
If part jewish Steve Jobs (Founder Of Apple) was not put up for adoption and his father returned with him back to Syria, then it is highly unlikely he would founded one of the world’s top computer companies.
Their success was due to his parents bank account and a bit a luck.
That's how it works.
If IQ really determined who got to the top why is Paris Hilton so successful? (After all she runs a business right and is loaded right ?) She doesn't even have a GED.
If success really equaled merit then Hilton would be where she belonged: on a corner somewhere sucking dick for a crack rock.
But because she was BORN into a position of privilege she achieved a measure of success that she probably would not have otherwise if she was born into a working class family.
Money talks and bullshit walks. Paris knows that her money speaks for her.
Even Bill Gates, who many say didn't inherit anything and was self made. Well Gates’s father was a successful attorney (who went to college on the white supremacist publicly-funded G.I. Bill) and his mother served on the Board of Directors for First Interstate Bank (her own father was a bank president).
The Gates family was comfortably upper-middle class and were able to afford to send their son to the prestigious Lakeside School, in Seattle, where thanks to proceeds from a “rummage sale” put on by the wealthy parents at the school the resources existed to purchase, for the students, an early computer system.
It was this early introduction to computing (which Gates would not have obtained at any Seattle public school, or even many other private ones), that launched him on his career path.
This is not to dispute his own hard work and ability; it is simply to say that circumstances also play a huge role in where people end up
But a system of white supremacy, combined with class advantage, timing, and frankly, luck was the reason why we have the Bill Gates we know today.
Everyone from Bill Gates to Warren Buffett to Jeff Bezos needed a substantial amount of money to start up their companies.
Take the average drug dealer born in the ghetto. The same type of person that has the personality and skills to run a criminal entrepreneurship can easily run a legal one, but many will never have the opportunity that will allow them to earn the credentials necessary to do so
How convenient that the “researchers” who wrote the Bell Curve and other stuff basically write off any inequalities in society as being due to genetics and not the hierarchical systems that serve to keep most people in the underclass.
Juicin
But that doesn't change the fact they are per capita the smartest ethnic group we have on record. Specifically Ashkenazi (white) Jews.
What is smart ? Serial Killer Ted Bundy had an IQ in the 140's that's genius level to you. This is a man who used to slit women from throat to vagina.
But he's so smart that I'm sure you'd have no problem him dating your sister or mom. He's has a 140 iq. Right ?
Science makes progress though discovery and disproof. It tries to knock down its own ideas because disproof is way easier than proof.
It loves facts that don't fit because they point to new ideas and discoveries. Guys like you never makes new discoveries that go against its claims.
Intelligence itself is very hard to define, whether IQ tests are a good measure of intelligence is hotly debated. There is no genetic proof as of yet that indicates the existence of traits unique to what we call a particular race (based on their appearance and known ancestry), yet you are sure blacks are inferior.
A person of the white master race should know better. No ?
So what you are saying is this : A black cat and a white cat are not both cats. They are different species. So are you saying that there is no single human race ? There are just different races which just happen to look little bit alike.
I think you are just scared. A more ballsy guy would’ve said already that science proves that blacks are dumb. But since you and your kind are too scared, you try to find some sort of pseudo-scientifical dress which you can wear in the racist ballroom gala
In many way it's a waste of time even debating with you as you can’t argue facts against beliefs. People believe what they want and they will always use confirmation bias to justify what they want to be true.
If you want to believe that people are inherently inferior, just like people in the Eugenics movement did, then nothing will convince them otherwise except possibly time. Going through such efforts in trying to prove the superiority of one group over another obviously comes with an agenda. And it’s not a scientific
Juicin
Your bad behavior is your own doing. You behave worse the better the whites treat you. lol
OK. So if black people have treated whites so badly then name one thing that black people (as a group) have stopped white people (as a group) from doing that they had a right to do?
For example, denying them the right to work, own a home, live in a certain area, get a just trial, an education, or use any public facility.
Yeah sure. A black person can come up to a white person and bash their skull with a rock because he doesn’t like white people but that is not racism, that is an one individual acting as one individual and there is no system in place that will support his right to harm you.
White people are the only people on the planet who have devised a system to mistreat people based on skin color alone. This system embraces every aspect of human existence — education, economic, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war.
That is why black can't be racist. We do not have a system — the power or the institutions– that allows us to mistreat people based on color.
Yes - Black people can be prejudiced (meaning to pre-judge) someone based on color but that prejudice is limited to what that INDIVIDUAL can do to another INDIVIDUAL.
Juicin
The sooner you accept that yes groups have different distributions for all sorts of things the better off you'll be. Yea well some of us are smarter too.....?
So for the second time what do you do with these dumb black people ?
We never really drill down to the nuts and bolts that need to be asked of the White Nationalists and they kind of like that.
Because they never have to actually put their ideas out there on the line to be scrutinized. They
can always claim ideological martyr status for being shouted down as being iconoclasts in the
public square and pretend that marginalized trash are actually hidden gems of knowledge only they and a select few others can see
You know that as long as you can act civilized and talk about “science” and "genes" you can still sneak around the halls of Academia and be safe. In fact, you can slip it into a conversation at the cocktail parties, “By the way, I am a race realist” unlike “by the way, I'm a racist”.
Let’s see how the White Nationalists intend to address the problems of our time and indeed things they see as problems
But to honest. I don't think they will because the reason you and others believe this is because you need a new theory of racism that allows you to separate yourselves from the blue collar stormfronters.
So let me take a wild guess. You’ll concede that blacks are better at bouncing balls, running fast, and brute strength and also funny, but not that smart. Asians are human calculators and are therefore good at science. They’re smart, but can’t think individually and aren’t creative.
But whites are really the genetically chosen ones.
What a surprise
The people who have the best mix of genes and abilities to make them the natural leaders of the world. Their genetics makes them overall dominant, even if they do make a few small concessions to other races here and there
Juicin
The whites don't even really have anything, they're just well rounded by human standards. Indians are good at spelling bees. I mean when we start comparing other than the Asians and Jews you sort of got won this eh? I'm big but I'm not fast.
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You assume “race” in humans as a biological fact without delivering a precise, uncontested biological definition
The science doesn’t support it.
As for the differences between groups, yes we acknowledge that human beings adapt to their geography to some extent – but not enough to become different *kinds* of human beings.
Now, if you choose to call the differences in groups “races” it stretches the original meaning of the word. But let’s accept that for a moment.
You want races so badly ? OK then I'll give them to you.
But you’re going to need more races (based on genetic variance) than they culled off in the past centuries. And the races won’t be arbitrarily colour-coordinated. There will be several European races, many Asian races, and a large number of African races
Basically, you're trying to hijack science in the same way that people hijack religion............ to promote their agenda. The problem is: unlike in religion, science is far less open to interpretation which is why you're failing so often.
Juicin
It's not even true in "race". Castes vary by IQ by HUGE margins. Some are full of idiots. Some full of people almost as smart as the white Jews.
So if it's genetic then why do white parents pay for the sons or daughters to have extra tutition ? Why do many white parents have all kinds of systems to cheat / brible pay for the sons or daughters way into college ? Shouldn't all that white high intelligence sail them through ?
Even in education you ignore the ways in which whites have been favored throughout the K-12 educational process.
All accomplishments take place within a larger social context. No one achieves anything in a vacuum.
- Whites are less likely to have attended a concentrated poverty school;
- More likely to have been taught by the most experienced and qualified instructors.
- Less likely as likely to have been taught by the least qualified and experienced.
- More likely to have had access to a full range of honors and advanced placement classes.
- The schools whites attend receive, on average, about $1000 more per pupil, per year than the schools that serve mostly black kids.
Juicin
All come from the same basic mix of genes.
Any two humans are 99.9% genetically the same according to the Human Genome Project.
And even that 0.1% is mostly made up of individual differences. Only 6.3% of that 0.1% comes from differences between races.
Races have pretty much the same set of genes, just in different frequencies. And even those frequencies do not always fall along the lines of race. Skin colour changes as you go north to south. The frequency of blood type B changes as you go east to west.
The racial designations that we currently use are principally based on three characteristics.
1) Facial structure
2) Skin color
3) Hair texture.
Those are things that are controlled by six genes out of thirty thousand genes in the human genome.
That's why most of the people running around trying to prove how stupid black people are, or running around trying to make genetic. biological and anthropological statements are rarely geneticists. biologists or anthropologists themselves.
No biologists or anthropologists, much less geneticists. Biologists and anthropologists, the very people who study these things for a living Yet these same people
- Steve Sailer, journalist/computer salesman.
- J. Philippe Rushton, psychologist.
- Francis Fukuyama, political economist.
- Richard Herrnstein, (Bell Curve Author) psychologist.
- Charles Murray, (Bell Curve Author) politics.
- Arthur Jensen, psychology professor.
- Jared Taylor. philsophy major
- Matt Hemibach, History major
- Richard Spencer, English Lit and Music major
Juicin
All the same shades of brown. Yet you can see two standard deviation differences in IQ with people who have lived next to eachother for millenia. Also how you get functionally white Jews who have 10 higher IQ points on average than the white christians living around them.
You don’t even have a leg to stand on as long as you don’t deliver a clear definition of what you actually write about.
There is no resistance to accept “race” as a biological concept
The point is, there is no scientific proof for it. Full stop. However, the fact that is truly remarkable in all of this is how keen certain people are on proving the biological validity. Or to see it proven. All that effort would be much better invested in research for genetically based disorders.
It’s also understandable when serious scientists (like me) are sick and tired of debunking guys like you over and over again. After all, I'm busy enough with proper research that might become truly beneficial for mankind
Do you even know what a scientific fact is ?
A scientific fact is that rain water freezes at 0°C at a pressure of 1 bar.
There’s no human choice involved. It’s observable and reproducible anywhere by anybody in the exact same way.
But yet you throw around concepts that have no constant repeatability everywhere you try to reproduce the experiment or apply the theoretical claim.
In natural science, only one single significant deviation is enough to render the claim at least disputable, at worst invalid.
The reality is that there is not only one but a multitude of deviations that those you choose to ignore.
Juicin
Average African nation is about 85 but it varies. India same thing, 85 average.
Why can't you just say "N*ggers are stupid" ? I'd have more respect for you if you brought it like that (I'd still disagree with you) rather wimping out with this "science" talk.
What are you scared of ? Why are trying promote your internal choas into a form of rationbality ?
I've ask many specific questions you evaded. Because the answers to those questions would shake the foundations of your little olmic empire.
You know it, I know it. Everybody knows it.
You are not open to an honest discussion, you came here as a king of your little sand castle of delightfully white sands. And you know if you answer the questions here, your castle will be washed away by the the waves of curiosity and knowledge.
Poetic, aren’t I?
Juicin
Where Does Affirmative Action Leave Asian-Americans? (Published 2019)
A high-profile lawsuit against Harvard is forcing students and their families to choose sides.
www.nytimes.com
The only that is happening, is that Asian students are getting their version of the “N-word wake up call” and you don’t seem to like the taste.
I don’t know what makes you Asians believe white people want to be surrounded by you, anymore than white people want to be surrounded by black people.
Of course it’s wrong for them to be restricted by an “unwritten” policy that is imposed on them because of “race” that being said, instead of Asians like you focusing on the racial discrimination part, you actually tie this to Affirmative Action.
Asians like you have aligned yourselves with the white supremacists. The same type of people that didn’t want Asians to get through the door 50 years ago. This is what happens when people don’t know history.
As long as the top Asian students keep banging on their ivies doors so they can run around bragging "I'm at Harvard" "I'm at Yale" Well guess what ? The Ivy Leagues will do whatever they can, within the letter of law, to discriminate against Asians to control the numbers and who they want.
They already do this with black students (the Ivy’s choose to admit more foreign-born or immigrant African and Caribbean students) instead of admitting more black American students. So I don’t see why they will play fair with Asian students.
Which makes more sense? Trying to correct specific flaws within a purposely flawed system? Or trying to correct the system itself? About a century ago there were eight Ivy League institutions: Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, Yale and the University of Pennsylvania. Since then, the U.S. population has more than doubled, yet these are still seen by most as the most elite and highest ranked universities in the country (MIT and Cal Tech and Stanford not withstanding)
There will never be enough seats (Supply) to equal the qualified students who are applying for admission (Demand). Even though they could build a larger system based solely on excellence and achievement rather than on scarcity. But that would mean that the business of education would suffer. And let’s face it, it’s more about the business than it is about the education, and has been for quite some time now.
The reality is that they could have developed twice as many top-rated elite universities, or doubled the student capacity of the existing Ivy League schools through annex campuses, remote learning, extended hours, increased staff.
But the problem is that the system is built not on academic parity, but on scarcity and access. The Ivies are the Ivies because of “reputation” and “public perception,” not because they are academically better (in all fields) than any other universities in the country. And there is no amount of tax money that is going to undo that fact, because the people who write the laws and levy the taxes are all within the very group that benefits the most from the current system. In fact, they ARE the system
And the majority of Asians are not at Harvard or any uni.
Most Asians are working twelve hours a day in sweatshops to make clothes for white people.
How are they doing so well?
Most Asian have family members that have to put in eighty hours a week just to keep their heads above water.
How are they doing so well ?
Most Asian are taxi drivers who endure crappy working conditions and customers who get pissy about their accents
How are they doing so well?
And even the Asians that do go to uni whites see them as "emotionless think tanks". In Silicon Valley white supremacy still rules so no matter how much ass kissing to whites you do, no matter how much hating towards black people you do, whites still deny Asians opportunities at leadership level and give them jobs only as programmers and developers.
And your disdain towards black people has some nerve when you look at we black people have done for you people.
.When the white supremacists were over there in 1800's killing the people in the Phillipines, almost committing genocide. A black man named David Fagan and other blk men defected because he didn't wanna see the filippinos get slaughtered. So he and a few other blk men started a guerilla war against the USA army
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He went over there training the Asians so they wouldn't be sitting ducks for the white supremacists.
Asians are over here because of blk ppl fighting for the 1965 immigration act. It was the black panthers speaking out against the Vietnam war
Muhammad Ali gave up his best boxing years for Asians.
He was out the sport for 3 years because he didn't want to got to Vietnam and harm Asian people
We are the economic base for Asians. We propped them you up but that was not returned because Asians have a policy of not spending a dime with black businesses. And we better not go to their countries coz the anti blk racism is so deep there.
White dudes have destroyed the Asian male image. Black ppl are the reason why Asian men are seen as nerdy and effeminate. Asian men are the world’s least fuckable men even your own women are getting dick downed by white boys............to the max
Juicin
All those disparities in education don't raise IQ.
You are just repeating what you have already wrote.
Juicin
And dumb questions like why don't black guys dominate volleyball? Probably because there is no money in it so and no one black cares about it? The fuck? lol.
Sport is about money. That's why at the olympic who sit on top of medals table is the countries with the money. Mostly Western countries with higher per capita income. That is why we are used to seeing US, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Japan etc. at the top of the medal tally.
Russians and Chinese are the only exceptions who have put down tremendous amount of state sponsorship in sports where China has been good only in the last 2 decades which is directly related to their booming economy.
Here’s a list of few sports that only a few countries can afford:
Also because black sports makes non blacks insecure and that's why they are trying to whiten up the olympics. So the sports they introduced in Tokyo 2020 were white sports. Skateboarding, BMX, Surfing, Rock Climbing and breakdancing is gonna be in the next Olympics in Paris 2024, which though started by black people have pretty much been taken over by whites and non blacks.
- Equestrian - because maintaining horses is very expensive.
- Golf - Only few countries have golf courses and even there only a minority people can afford to play regularly
- Swimming - Very few countries have good indoor swimming facilities available to common people i.e. why you will not see Kenya produce a Michael Phelps any time soon.
- Diving - Same reasons as swimming
- Water Polo - Same reasons as swimming
- Gymnastics (all forms) - a sport that requires great gym facilities which requires spending tremendous amount of money
- All forms of Cycling - everyone knows bicycle sports is an expensive hobby
- Canoe - even if one can afford a boat, lots of $$$ is needed to train for Olympics medals
- Rowing - same reasons as Canoe
- Fencing - Ever seen Africans or majority of poor Asian countries participating? It’s high-maintenance
- Shooting, Archery - guns and ammunitions are expensive for most of the world’s population (don’t be surprised Americans)
- Entire Winter Olympics
Juicin
You think you're going to dominate activities you don't participate in? Like asking why black people don't dominate hockey. They might idk not enough of a sample size to know shit.
Hockey, to me, is not a sport. Nascar is not a sport. Yes technically they are......but it's not sport without black people. It's not a sport with us. Things start to get difficult when we show up
Take men's soccer. Soccer is the biggest sport in the world but USA are average at it and have zero chance of winning or even getting close to winning a world cup
Why ? Because black people don't play it in the USA to the same extent we play other sports.
@jusicin
We spend 30K plus per student in most major american cities on kids. Baltimore it's fucking 50k. Still most kids can't read or write. Concentrated "poverty" more like concentrated black cultural poverty. "we're among our own you can't blame us for this" as the whites just dump money into major urban school systems....? They tried spending their way out of this problem it doesn't work here or anywhere.
Whites provide school kids with profoundly unstandardized educations and say "We don't have big government running the schools. We delineate all that to the local level. We let them choose their own curriculum. We believe in local control. We believe in property tax funding of K-12 education. We don't want federal government doing educations"
Like they do in every country that the USA compares themselves with and beats them on every international test.
But the USA would rather every village run their own school
So you have a system with profoundly unstandardized schools, profoundly unstandardized financial resources, profoundly unstandardized teaching training, profoundly unstandardized curriculum.
And then you give the kids what ? A standardized test
And when at the end of an unstandardized process all the kids coming through don't do equally as well and you say to those who didn't do as well (who will disproportionately be black of low income because who those are ones who are likely to go to the schools without those equal resources) that "You can't go to that college" "You can't to this uni" "Matter of fact you can't go to any college at all" "You're not that smart"
And if that's not enough advantage whites still cheat. This white guy Sam Eshaghoff was so out of control with his cheating that he got his own wiki page. Whites have mothers, fathers who have influence in the work place; managers, CEO’s who buy a covenant position in their company for their child who barely graduated H.S.
Everyone knows the education system is rigged in favor of white people.
College cheating scandals are not new.
Whites hate competing the right way. So they rig the game in their favor. Cheating, nepotism, bribes, favoratism: WHITE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. Now you know how George W. Bush got into and graduated from Yale.
Even when black people do well. White people are still chomping at the bit to explain how this happened.
Juicin cin
Again IQ is mostly heritable.
Something interesting about the debate between Bell-Curvians and IQ theorists like yourself and the rest of the scientific community is that guys who think like you attempt to solicit bunches of names to support their position, instead of letting the evidence speak for itself.
Meanwhile, the bulk of scholarly and scientific research asks for no signatories to reinforce them, and freely submits itself to peer-review.
It reminds me of the way Creationists attempt to get Intelligent Design accepted as “real science” by first undermining the prevailing consensus through portraying facts as being hotly contested and under debate, while simultaneously positing their version as some sort of hidden, maligned knowledge.
In much the same way, race-realists attempt to do this with race, genetics, and IQ. And so much of it revolves around buzzwords like, “PC”, “Leftist”, “Liberals”, and other conspiratorial, ambiguous entities. Ask them to define these people and suddenly they can’t.
Basically, as I sad before, you are trying to hijack science in the same way that people hijack religion to promote their agenda. The problem is: unlike in religion, science is far less open to interpretation.
Which is why they so often fail.
But nonetheless, these ideas get promulgated among people, and float around the cultural zeitgeist. Merely because they were posited in the first place.
Apparently a large segment of America needs Black people to be inferior, and the only way to combat that is to disabuse them of that notion through science, through legislation, and through changing our ideas.
Juicin
And what's not is random. Also why black kids think being good at book learning is white. They see the obvious just like we all see the obvious about athletics.
The reason why black people achieve in athletics is because it's objective. You either can run the 100m in under 10 secs or you can't but who get's the job is a judgment call and the white supremacist pretty much controls most of the jobs in the USA and if black people are just by nature stupid as you claim
Why do whites make sure predominantly Black school districts are under-funded ? under-staffed with inexperienced teachers ? denied books ? microscopes ? and other lab equipment ? and put hazardous waste near black schools ? cut art and music classes ? sports teams and sometimes hot meals in a cafeteria ?
And despite all that black people still thrive.
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White people know that Black people can be great scientists, economists, attorneys and anything else.
Whites want a social system were black people are handicapped by lack of education and opportunity that their only options are flipping burgers or in prison and then white and non black people try to ‘scientifically’ prove that the effects of their own racism are actually due to innate deficiencies of those they’ve practicing there racism on
Juicin
As to the test gap...This is a fact paul. lol
Why are black people stupid ? And what do you do with these all dumb blk ppl ?
You don't really believe in what you write that's why you won't answer those question because no white man thinks they are superior to a black man. And no Asian man thinks they are superior to black man
Juicin
And the existence of different hair and eye colors is just happen stance. It means nothing Europe is very homogeneous relative to Africa in a genetic sense. They went through a massive genocide about four thousand years ago that homogenized them.
So it doesn't matter that blk people have a variety of different features, or if groups have different average heights, have reached different levels of civilization, and self-identify as dierent peoples.
NO! Blacks are all one race, not two, or ve, or twenty Black races. And why? Because in order for your mumbo jumbo to work, it requires a genetically homogenous race of Blacks who all share roughly the same DNA so that none of them make good quarterbacks.
And how white people are certainly less genetically diverse than Blacks, but they
obviously have genetic variance between say… Scandinavians and Italians or Anglo Saxons and
Spaniards… but evidently, those genetic dierences are somehow never linked to intelligence.
You don't want to theorize on which group of White people are the least intelligent. That is only used for talking about blks.
I repeat - Who are the genetically dumber and disadvantaged Whites (comparatively)? If there is enough genetic dierence to have different hair color, eye color and different average height, then why not intelligence?
The answer is because this is not science, it’s politics—and to ask that question does not serve your goals.
Juicin
Why doesn't Africa have different eye colors even tho they're the most diverse place?????? And i mean genetically not phenotypically as you seem to think matters. It's 2021 dude we have DNA tests. Better of measuring skulls than counting hair and eye color. Half the planet has the same patrilineal lines.
Even the most cursory googling on the subject of African genetic diversity will show you
that African peoples have extremely diverse and divergent genetic makeups. They cannot possible
all be guided by the same “dumb gene” or the same “violence gene” or “fast running gene.” Yet
the you treat all Africans if they are a single genetic race.
Juicin cin
Your delusion about this is pathetic.
You don't bring out the army for a bunch pathetic men.
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They need a whole army to go up against one unarmed black man.
No one has the amount courage blk men have.
And what makes black American men even more special is that go up against the biggest military power on the planet. The single most sophisticated military the world has ever seen.
Yet black men still go hard body. Black men still fight these bastards and have done so for last 400 years, challenging the beast everyday. Black men have fought whites till hell freezes over and then fought them on that fkin ice.
- WE ARE OUT-NUMBERED
- WE ARE OUT-GUNNED
- WE ARE OUT-FINANCED
Tell me what have Asian men done ? But cowardly stand behind black men as we kick down the doors for you to come in. There are no Asian Martin Luther King - Nelson Mandela or Malcolm X's
If I'm wrong name them ?
I'll wait
That's why non white people from all over the world kill themselves to get to America because black American men fight white supremacy and have created safer haven for non whites to come and propser and leech off the rights that black American men fought for in country that we built.
Juicin
as a Caucasian Asian who earns the most of any ethnic group in this country outside the jews...LOL
Asian come on top in median family income not personal income
Big difference and the only reason they top median familuy income is because they have more people in their family working
So this was picked because it supports white ppls stereotype about Asians as successful, which in turn makes it seem like American society is not racist.
The silver bullet is not how well-educated Asian Americans are. After all, even in 1940s Japanese Americans were better educated than whites, but few whites would hire them – and, in fact, took their farms and shops and houses and sent them to prison camps. So education alone is hardly a good measure of how unracist whites are towards Asian Americans.
The better rough measure is personal income when controlled for education. It would be best to do it at the state level since many Asian Americans live in places with a high cost of living, like California
Juicin
At the idea the whites don't want us around. We're their kin dumbass. We share patrilineal lines. We're all descended from teh Aryans
Yeah keep telling yourself that whites want Asians around and love them so much. If that's the case then why has the USA been boming south Asian countries for the past 15 years ?
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The USA uses drones all over South Asia. They send Hellfire missiles not just at military targets but at houses, schools, restaurants, bakeries, during Ramadan, during funerals, after they have prayed, after they protest against drones, sends them if they come to help the dying and wounded from the first missile, even if it is your father, mother, sister, brother, cousin
Are they doing this Sweden ? Germany ? UK ? France ? Italy ? Greece ? Portugal ?
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Happen. Not. Gonna.
White people want Asian around just as long as you know you're place and because most Asian agree to knowing their place around white people that has meant that asians experience positive racism. They're seen as good minorities who serve whites.
Blacks experience negative racism. We are seen as bad minorities because we protest and have tried to improve our lot.
Asians try to work harder despite the system - Blacks try to change the system.
Whites pat Asians on the head for being good while they scold blacks for being bad and then tell blacks,”Why can’t you be more like Asians and just kiss our asses !!!!”
The whites you love so much who sold Asians opium knowing it was addictive to get Asian people to give up their silver (opium wars). The group that dropped 2 bombs on Asians cus it would "cut casualties” (ww2), the group that went to Vietnam and waged War on poor people (nam)?
Black people have to fight every race and group and guess what ? We ain’t did nothing to anyone.
But since whites & Indians love each so much they should say what the solution is to deal with Black ppl ? No ?
Juicin cin
And when the majority of Asians are not foreign born this will end. It's already coming to an end. The problem is most Indians don't care yet becasue we do well and are foreign born. The CHinese do. Native born indians will not taking your ****** whining well
Really dude. What you gonna do ? Drown us in Curry ?
You parents leave a piss poor excuse of a countrylike India, where as 2% elite live like kings and the rest have got a biscuit to "have/make a better life here" a country that black built and fought for.
That's what funny about South Asians. Now they are in the USA they talk all nostalgic about their home country but then ignore the fact that they ran from it the first chance they got
The British did a number on the psyche South Asians.
But come to the black areas if you want that smoke. We will fking destroy you. Are you being serious here ?
You are too obsessed with kissing up to white people whilst hating on and disrespecting black people.
South Asians get the shock of their lives when white people turn around and mock their accents. I've seen it in the workplace with White men disrespecting the entire fuck outta Raj. Then they want to get on some POC solidarity. ......na think not.
Juicin
Indians shit on black accomplishments all over the world.
You people are good at cricket I'll give you that. Other accomplisments ?
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Don't matter still Asian. The same you view black ppl as the same. I do the same with South Asians
I don't really care about the tribal stuff and beefing over different religions. They're still asians
I'm not talking about your tribal stuff
