LoneLaugher
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With her history of health issues, this may be the what breaks the camels back. She can't keep hiding it forever. Even the DNC is questioning her health
What history?
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With her history of health issues, this may be the what breaks the camels back. She can't keep hiding it forever. Even the DNC is questioning her health
It's not pneumonia and the public will get really pissed off that her handlers are trying to run a game down on them. I can't believe they are trying to say she has pneumonia.
She then took a trustworthiness hit when it was revealed that she had been diagnosed on Friday but didn't tell anyone.
You are how old?Mrs. Clinton did the same thing most high performing folks do: she figured she could get through her morning and rest over the remainder of the day. She was neither the first nor last person of her worker class (execs, senior management, etc.) to do that. It's really quite common. Hell, when I had abdominal surgery, I worked from the hospital room on my laptop for several hours the day I stayed in the hospital after the procedure. I worked from home for about eight hours a day, even doing two video conferences from my home office, while I laid in bed recovering.
"Stuff" needs to get done and when it's just "you" who can do it, you tough it out, or at least you try to until you pass out or damn do so. That's just what Mrs. Clinton did.
I took a few minutes to look around for threads on this topic that hadn't devolved into abject silliness, and couldn't find any. Big shock there. So I'll try this here.
I think it's possible that, unlike emails and Benghazi and any number of other stories that have been thrown against the wall by the GOP, their constant pounding on Hillary's health could end up working for them.
I'm not saying that she is not healthy. I'm merely talking about image here. That video of her having difficulty getting into the van is not good, and the press has indeed run with this story. And even the fact that has pneumonia may not matter, it's more of an overall health thing.
I dunno. Thoughts?
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Until yesterday, there was no reason to believe she was sick! The cough--explained. The fainting--explained. She is not feeble and she showed no evidence of being feeble prior to her pneumonia. Unless you want to buy the photo-shopped "evidence" of a security detail carrying a syringe or a lucky camera shot catching her just as she slipped on a step, making it look like something else. All the garbage on here about her wearing diapers and taking naps at all hours--its just silliness! Wishful thinking! Come back to earth!
he has been laying down some pretty detailed policy positions here lately.
Well, if you say so; they aren't what I think of as detailed, but....I don't want to dwell on that here (this thread). The man has been planning a run for President since at least 2014 -- at least that's when at social events I first began hearing of it becoming a "thing" he'd do. Maybe his poor health status that only in the past couple months has turned around for the better was the reason why it took him over two years to figure out what he wants to achieve -- besides build a damn wall -- and tell folks about it, nevermind figuring out and articulating an implementation path and his estimated costs for doing so?
We all know that if the video had not captured her collapsing in front of that van we would have gotten the "overheated" story and let's move along. Like most things in Politics the coverup makes the original "crime" much worse. First it's allergies, then it's just overheating, now it's pneumonia. Maybe. Maybe not.
For Clinton it is the double whammy of another big hit on her lack of credibility and her fragile health.
We all know that if the video had not captured her collapsing in front of that van we would have gotten the "overheated" story and let's move along. Like most things in Politics the coverup makes the original "crime" much worse. First it's allergies, then it's just overheating, now it's pneumonia. Maybe. Maybe not.
For Clinton it is the double whammy of another big hit on her lack of credibility and her fragile health.
And now... there's this:
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Clinton's body double!
Wow... seems like a little time inside Chelsea's apartment took like 20 years off Secretary Clinton! She looks like a completely new woman!
he has been laying down some pretty detailed policy positions here lately.
Well, if you say so; they aren't what I think of as detailed, but....I don't want to dwell on that here (this thread). The man has been planning a run for President since at least 2014 -- at least that's when at social events I first began hearing of it becoming a "thing" he'd do. Maybe his poor health status that only in the past couple months has turned around for the better was the reason why it took him over two years to figure out what he wants to achieve -- besides build a damn wall -- and tell folks about it, nevermind figuring out and articulating an implementation path and his estimated costs for doing so?
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Clearly, the man has published TWO BOOKS on public policy before you ever knew he planned to run for president. And that's pretty rich to be claiming Trump has suffered from poor health until a couple of months ago. I mean, I gotta hand it to liberals... they simply know no shame. They will lie right through their teeth about something and not give it a second thought.
I must say....I am a wee bit disappointed that there are no replies to my initial post in this thread. I thought for certain it would have been seen as highly objectionable to the usual crowd. Meh.
Compost, I will do as you ask, but first I just need to ask, What did I say? I have absolutely NO idea what I said to set you off. I wasn't angry at you or anyone else, just frustrated with squirrelly Hillary. I WAS agreeing with you. End of statement, now I'll leave you alone.That's not what I said. Frankly though, it would be fantastic if you never spoke to me anymore because obviously the inevitable sets you off. I wish I had a dollar for every time somebody said essentially the same thing I said on a thread. Silly me, I just let it go.Are you saying don't speak to you anymore? Okay.OH MY! I said something similar than you!!!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. You know, there's an agree button. Or you could just let it go.Sigh. That's what I said, why didn't she just say so. Could say that about a lot of things she's done.Maybe this is a naive question but I'm asking it anyway. If Clinton had pneumonia why didn't she simply say so? A statement that she is suffering from pneumonia and her doctor has her on medication or bed rest or whatever,then proceed accordingly. Does that make too much sense?
Here's the problem. That wasn't done. She can't navigate stairs. She coughs uncontrollably. We've seen her head move like a bobble head in a strong wind. Just yesterday we all saw the video where her knees buckled and she had to be loaded into a vehicle by her staff. When people ask about it, they are dismissed as Hillary haters or some other childish nonsense
It's almost as though she WANTS wild speculation. She can't win on the basis of having a vagina, so now she 's looking for the sympathy vote? Please tell me that is not what's happening here!
Naw, as someone who's had the vapors a couple times and lots of old lady acquaintances that have, she passed out. Period.She didn't lose consciousness.Why didn't they say that at the onset?Why don't you do a little research. You seem to think the pneumonia resulting from being bed ridden and walking pneumonia are the same thing. They are not.The point is that she didn't have pneumonia, its all a lie. Had she really been suffering a pneumonia there's no way in hell she'd being doing all those events (Friday-Sunday)If she was sick on Friday, why did they hide it from everyone?
If she was sick on Friday, unless one had business with her on Saturday, did one really need to know? I mean we're talking pneumonia, not pancreatic cancer.
She's 68, almost 69, for cripes sake...pneumonia wipes out 12 year olds. No one really believes this story of pneumonia.
She's seen on the street 2 hours later saying she's fine and its a beautiful day in New York lol come on now!
She loses consciousness and they say she was overheated and dehydrated. She emerges 2 hours later saying she's "fine, its a beautiful day in New York". Nothing more. Still the narrative they push is that she was overheated and dehydrated, then x amount of hours later Dr Lisa (whatever her last name is) says she was diagnosed with pneumonia on FRIDAY.
In the real world after she lost consciousness and If she were diagnosed with pneumonia 2 days prior they would have said that immediately. I mean that only makes sense right? Why lie? Instead they say one thing and come up with a whole different story hours later. Doesn't that strike you as odd?
I can only imagine that stating a diagnosis of pneumonia would make you all freak out, as it has.
Your remark was, Sigh, that's what I said...Compost, I will do as you ask, but first I just need to ask, What did I say? I have absolutely NO idea what I said to set you off. I wasn't angry at you or anyone else, just frustrated with squirrelly Hillary. I WAS agreeing with you. End of statement, now I'll leave you alone.That's not what I said. Frankly though, it would be fantastic if you never spoke to me anymore because obviously the inevitable sets you off. I wish I had a dollar for every time somebody said essentially the same thing I said on a thread. Silly me, I just let it go.Are you saying don't speak to you anymore? Okay.OH MY! I said something similar than you!!!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. You know, there's an agree button. Or you could just let it go.Sigh. That's what I said, why didn't she just say so. Could say that about a lot of things she's done.Maybe this is a naive question but I'm asking it anyway. If Clinton had pneumonia why didn't she simply say so? A statement that she is suffering from pneumonia and her doctor has her on medication or bed rest or whatever,then proceed accordingly. Does that make too much sense?
Here's the problem. That wasn't done. She can't navigate stairs. She coughs uncontrollably. We've seen her head move like a bobble head in a strong wind. Just yesterday we all saw the video where her knees buckled and she had to be loaded into a vehicle by her staff. When people ask about it, they are dismissed as Hillary haters or some other childish nonsense
It's almost as though she WANTS wild speculation. She can't win on the basis of having a vagina, so now she 's looking for the sympathy vote? Please tell me that is not what's happening here!
And, of course, he simply posted the contents of the books on his campaign website as was for everyone to know precisely what his policy proposals are.....
Can't stand your guy, but you're right. Some Dems are stuck on talking points from a month ago, and the campaign has changed. He is putting out plans and staying on topic.And, of course, he simply posted the contents of the books on his campaign website as was for everyone to know precisely what his policy proposals are.....
LMAO.. Was he supposed to post something different???
You said that he hasn't been specific... he wrote two freaking books.
You said he started talking about running for prez in 2014... both books were published well before 2014.
Now you're saying... Well, but he just posted what was in his books on his website! Really? How fucking DARE him do that! The NERVE! lol