Hillary supporters are unwilling to have an honest discussion. I'll prove it in this thread.

[toobfreak]

Hillary supporters are unwilling to have an honest discussion.

What is this, an exercise in oxymoronic overstatements? How could anyone be a HILLARY supporter, the very icon of institutionalized dishonesty, and want to have an honest discussion?

 

[Confounding]

Hillary having an evolving political position is not lying

I am seriously disappointed in you this day. I had thought of you as one of the honest thinkers on this board. That is not what's being called a lie. One of Bernie's big sells was the fact that he has been preaching the same thing for multiple decades. He's consistent, like Ron Paul. Hillary needed to compete with that so she repeatedly lied about her past during the primaries. That is clearly demonstrated in the video, alongside other lies.

 

[Confounding]

Hillary supporters are unwilling to have an honest discussion.

What is this, an exercise in oxymoronic overstatements? How could anyone be a HILLARY supporter, the very icon of institutionalized dishonesty, and want to have an honest discussion?

They think they're honest and righteous.

 

[AmericanTruther]

The Benghazi crowd is having another round of Hillary circle jerking. She lives rent free trailer park style in their WeakWhyte minds.

 

[Markle]

She attacked his past in any way she could. He's a true leftist and his record is consistent. If she had attacked him the same way a right wing nut job would attack him she would have lost the primary. Hillary lacked trust in her own party. Bernie would have unified the left wing vote that Hillary put a schism in. There's also the part where lots of people didn't even know about Bernie until it was too late. If he had made it center stage he would have been unstoppable. Trump lost the popular vote and barely won the states that secured him the election. Bernie absolutely would have pulled more votes than Clinton, and that would have been enough to win.

Hillary along with the DNC both admitted they cheated to win.

The landslide that saw Hillary Clinton swamped by Donald Trump would have only been that much worse had Socialist Bernie Sanders won.

 

[Borillar]

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Seems like all Hillary supporters are either nut-cases or brainwashed nut-cases,

Shit, Trump hasn't sacrificed anything. Dude is making bank on passing laws that benefit him and his family.

 

[Confounding]

She attacked his past in any way she could. He's a true leftist and his record is consistent. If she had attacked him the same way a right wing nut job would attack him she would have lost the primary. Hillary lacked trust in her own party. Bernie would have unified the left wing vote that Hillary put a schism in. There's also the part where lots of people didn't even know about Bernie until it was too late. If he had made it center stage he would have been unstoppable. Trump lost the popular vote and barely won the states that secured him the election. Bernie absolutely would have pulled more votes than Clinton, and that would have been enough to win.

Hillary along with the DNC both admitted they cheated to win.

The landslide that saw Hillary Clinton swamped by Donald Trump would have only been that much worse had Socialist Bernie Sanders won.

Something tells me neither of us is going to convince the other of anything.

 

[JoeMoma]

On thing I’ve noticed is that Hillary’s approval ratings tend to go down the more she is in the public’s eye. Her approval ratings are best wh3n she stays in the woods.

 

[IM2]

Bernie had a past that Hillary did not exploit.

She attacked his past in any way she could. He's a true leftist and his record is consistent. If she had attacked him the same way a right wing nut job would attack him she would have lost the primary. Hillary lacked trust in her own party. Bernie would have unified the left wing vote that Hillary put a schism in. There's also the part where lots of people didn't even know about Bernie until it was too late. If he had made it center stage he would have been unstoppable. Trump lost the popular vote and barely won the states that secured him the election. Bernie absolutely would have pulled more votes than Clinton, and that would have been enough to win.

No she really didn't. You need to understand that. She gave him great mercy because she knew she needed Bernie supporters if she won. First and foremost Bernie was not a democrat. If there was any schism it was caused by Bernie. I've known of Bernie Sanders since 1988. If he would have made it to center stage his story about women fantasizing about rape would have ben on center stage too. His vote for the crime bill, his vote to send toxic waste from Vermont to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, his vote against the amber alert etc, would have been on center stage with him. He talked big shit about campaign violations while committing them. Mercifully Bernie was not the nominee.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary having an evolving political position is not lying

I am seriously disappointed in you this day. I had thought of you as one of the honest thinkers on this board. That is not what's being called a lie. One of Bernie's big sells was the fact that he has been preaching the same thing for multiple decades. He's consistent, like Ron Paul. Hillary needed to compete with that so she repeatedly lied about her past during the primaries. That is clearly demonstrated in the video, alongside other lies.

Almost every American who supports same sex marriage today opposed the idea a decade ago. It was an evolving social issue

Someone changing their position is not lying

You seem to have no concept of what constitutes a lie

 

[rightwinger]

She attacked his past in any way she could. He's a true leftist and his record is consistent. If she had attacked him the same way a right wing nut job would attack him she would have lost the primary. Hillary lacked trust in her own party. Bernie would have unified the left wing vote that Hillary put a schism in. There's also the part where lots of people didn't even know about Bernie until it was too late. If he had made it center stage he would have been unstoppable. Trump lost the popular vote and barely won the states that secured him the election. Bernie absolutely would have pulled more votes than Clinton, and that would have been enough to win.

Hillary along with the DNC both admitted they cheated to win.

The landslide that saw Hillary Clinton swamped by Donald Trump would have only been that much worse had Socialist Bernie Sanders won.

Show us where they admitted that

 

[John Shaw]

Hillary having an evolving political position is not lying

I am seriously disappointed in you this day. I had thought of you as one of the honest thinkers on this board. That is not what's being called a lie. One of Bernie's big sells was the fact that he has been preaching the same thing for multiple decades. He's consistent, like Ron Paul. Hillary needed to compete with that so she repeatedly lied about her past during the primaries. That is clearly demonstrated in the video, alongside other lies.

Almost every American who supports same sex marriage today opposed the idea a decade ago. It was an evolving social issue

Someone changing their position is not lying

You seem to have no concept of what constitutes a lie

People pretty much realized there was almost no reason to care about gay marriage, one way or the other.

 

[Markle]

I really don't understand this obsession with Hillary. That was a year and a half ago. She is gone. No more. Kaput.

She would be gone if they, Democrats, could ever get her to leave!

She gives a commencement speech and it not about the graduates, it's all about HER. I LOVE IT! I want her front and center for the Midterms and certainly in the 2020 elections as well. Life is good!

 

[Nova78]

She belongs in prison.

 

[Confounding]

Hillary having an evolving political position is not lying

I am seriously disappointed in you this day. I had thought of you as one of the honest thinkers on this board. That is not what's being called a lie. One of Bernie's big sells was the fact that he has been preaching the same thing for multiple decades. He's consistent, like Ron Paul. Hillary needed to compete with that so she repeatedly lied about her past during the primaries. That is clearly demonstrated in the video, alongside other lies.

Almost every American who supports same sex marriage today opposed the idea a decade ago. It was an evolving social issue

Someone changing their position is not lying

You seem to have no concept of what constitutes a lie

Oh my God. Are you serious right now? Did you even read my post? You are correct that changing your opinion is not a lie. However it IS a lie to repeatedly claim you have always held the same view on issues when you haven't. She lied about her past to compete with Bernie's consistency. She has repeatedly claimed that she has always supported gay marriage. She has more than once claimed that she thought NAFTA was a bad idea from the start. She claimed she was hard on the banks after the crash. There are others shown in the video. All of those things were outright lies that were used to compete with a politician that is actually consistent.

 

[Confounding]

Hillary having an evolving political position is not lying

I am seriously disappointed in you this day. I had thought of you as one of the honest thinkers on this board. That is not what's being called a lie. One of Bernie's big sells was the fact that he has been preaching the same thing for multiple decades. He's consistent, like Ron Paul. Hillary needed to compete with that so she repeatedly lied about her past during the primaries. That is clearly demonstrated in the video, alongside other lies.

Almost every American who supports same sex marriage today opposed the idea a decade ago. It was an evolving social issue

Someone changing their position is not lying

You seem to have no concept of what constitutes a lie

People pretty much realized there was almost no reason to care about gay marriage, one way or the other.

Good thing her changed opinions are not the issue. The issue is when she repeatedly lied about the fact that they changed in an attempt to look consistent on important issues. She has zero issue lying for an advantage during a political debate.

 

[IsaacNewton]

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Seems like all Hillary supporters are either nut-cases or brainwashed nut-cases,

 

[Confounding]

No she really didn't. You need to understand that. She gave him great mercy because she knew she needed Bernie supporters if she won. First and foremost Bernie was not a democrat. If there was any schism it was caused by Bernie. I've known of Bernie Sanders since 1988. If he would have made it to center stage his story about women fantasizing about rape would have ben on center stage too. His vote for the crime bill, his vote to send toxic waste from Vermont to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, his vote against the amber alert etc, would have been on center stage with him. He talked big shit about campaign violations while committing them. Mercifully Bernie was not the nominee.

Sanders Voted for 1994 Crime Bill to Support Assault Weapons Ban, Violence Against Women Provisions

The Bernie Sanders 'Rape Fantasy' Essay, Explained

Fact-checking a viral graphic critical of Bernie Sanders

I know you won't visit those links, but you're kinda taking a lot of stuff out of context. Republicans wouldn't have hit him with anything that would have stopped the left from voting for him. He would have picked up more votes than Hillary and he would have won the election.

 

[Borillar]

Yes, Clinton was dishonest and a liar

That's all I wanted, thank you. For the record Bernie was not dishonest or a liar.

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Sanders is weak

I supported Sanders in the primaries and thought he was the stronger of the candidates....We had to run with the horse that won the primaries and that is clinton. Sometimes you do what you have to do!

Trump took a lot of Sanders ideas on trade and outsourcing and won the election. I wouldn't call that weak.

I wanted Sanders too. He lost my support when he backed Hillary even after all the shady machinations were exposed. I voted for Jill Stein in the general election. Of course, I live in Oregon, so it was a safe protest vote.

 

[IM2]

Hillary having an evolving political position is not lying

I am seriously disappointed in you this day. I had thought of you as one of the honest thinkers on this board. That is not what's being called a lie. One of Bernie's big sells was the fact that he has been preaching the same thing for multiple decades. He's consistent, like Ron Paul. Hillary needed to compete with that so she repeatedly lied about her past during the primaries. That is clearly demonstrated in the video, alongside other lies.

Almost every American who supports same sex marriage today opposed the idea a decade ago. It was an evolving social issue

Someone changing their position is not lying

You seem to have no concept of what constitutes a lie

People pretty much realized there was almost no reason to care about gay marriage, one way or the other.

Good thing her changed opinions are not the issue. The issue is when she repeatedly lied about the fact that they changed in an attempt to look consistent on important issues. She has zero issue lying for an advantage during a political debate.

The main lie was the Sanders was a democrat. Bernie talks all that crap abut a single payer health care plan. He had almost 30 years to present a plan and did nothing. Hillary Clinton was first lady and at least was able to get a plan in front of congress in 1993.

1993 Healthcare Proposal Preview



And if you think Sanders would have been able to get his plan past this republican congress you miss reality.